Offseason Roster Thread 2016-17

[Mittens87]

No. He's a bitter old man now. Probably fuming inside how he was a top hitter in the league with the Jays and might never get his big pay day. Glad the team got some value out of him while they could. Good luck to him

[Mittens87]

Nope. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if he signs with the Orioles or Rangers. Seems like a good fit for those teams.

 

Dont know about Rangers. Might be a bit awkward for the team and fans for a bit but it's not up to them I guess. If they decide they want to take the risk on him, sure he would fit in just fine anywhere.

[Joshtowers]

Forget about qualifying Saunders. Call up Dominic Brown from triple A. Resign Edcarnacian.

[over500]

Edcarnacian.

wow

[Jonn]

Don't we have Tulo and Martin coming off the books in 3 years? So the 4th year of any Encarnacion deal could probably be absorbed quite easily. I mean, realistically this ownership should be able to sign Eddie without even blinking but if we have to do the whole budget thing, I'm sure he still fits in there.

 

Although I have to say, I think the numbers being thrown around on this board for his contract are on the low side.

 

More goes into a decision like that. Edwin is probably the best DH in Baseball now that Ortiz is retired but it's a groundbreaking deal for a player who only hits. I know he played a lot First Base but that had more to do with the Colabello suspension and Smoak being useless. It's clear they didn't want to go out and make a move at the position because they weren't interested in trading prospects. That's why they went after someone like Melvin Upton to try to add some Outfield depth over a higher profile guy. Plus DHing Bautista as often as they could was probably for the best.

 

I really don't think Edwin will get that number or near it especially the years. Boston could very well choose to go after Beltran to DH. Everyone's assuming they will give Edwin what he wants when offence is not an issue for them. If anybody is going to offer him big money its a team desperately in search of a bat trying to make an impact. Who knows that could be an NL team interested in playing him at First Base.

 

I want him back but if we come out of free agency knowing we have 3 first round picks next June and Atkins plugged in some pretty good veteran pieces for a fraction of the cost. We should all be extremely happy. It's not being cheap. I'd rather the money was spent wisely and not on players who are unlikely to repeat the level of production they have been producing at. I hate the idea of buying decline years.

 

As long as the roster looks good come Spring and a good plan is in place everything is good. Only the worst kind of fan will be crying and complaining that Rogers is cheap. They should spend just not on guys on the wrong side of 30.

[Stangstag]

Don't we have Tulo and Martin coming off the books in 3 years? So the 4th year of any Encarnacion deal could probably be absorbed quite easily. I mean, realistically this ownership should be able to sign Eddie without even blinking but if we have to do the whole budget thing, I'm sure he still fits in there.

 

Although I have to say, I think the numbers being thrown around on this board for his contract are on the low side.

 

Martin has 3 years left, but Tulo is signed until after the 2020 season.

[Governator]

Nope. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if he signs with the Orioles or Rangers. Seems like a good fit for those teams.

 

lol there's no way Bautista would sign with the Rangers.

[BlueJayWay]

So, with everyone advocating giving the biggest relief contract ever to Jansen/Chapman, should we admit that we were maybe too hard on JPR for BJ Ryan? He was unquestionably on that level when Toronto gave him 5/47 after 2005. Then his arm exploded.

Maybe. Although it says something when that deal was more than 10 years ago, and no one in MLB has signed a reliever to a 5 year contract since then.

[BlueRocky]

I cans we 4/90 with team options. This could happen.

 

Maybe Edwin has had some feelers and knows he won't get better. Why not stay home?

 

Would love to sign Edwin for 90/4 even without options but don't think it's happening

[Brownie19]

Don't we have Tulo and Martin coming off the books in 3 years? So the 4th year of any Encarnacion deal could probably be absorbed quite easily. I mean, realistically this ownership should be able to sign Eddie without even blinking but if we have to do the whole budget thing, I'm sure he still fits in there.

 

Although I have to say, I think the numbers being thrown around on this board for his contract are on the low side.

 

Who would you rather have - Cespedes 5 years $125M, EE 4 years $100M or Fowler 4 Years $80M???

[LGBJ29]

Forget about qualifying Saunders. Call up Dominic Brown from triple A. Resign Edcarnacian.

 

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[LGBJ29]

Who would you rather have - Cespedes 5 years $125M, EE 4 years $100M or Fowler 4 Years $80M???

 

Personally would go with Cespedes, I think he's got the potential to add the most wins of the 3 for the next few years, and would likely hit 40+ HR at the RC.

[Brownie19]

Personally would go with Cespedes, I think he's got the potential to add the most wins of the 3 for the next few years, and would likely hit 40+ HR at the RC.

 

I think I agree. His batting appears consistent now and you'd expect if you left him in RF, he'd be a plus defender.

 

He's also probably the most likely to get unmotivated and fat after cashing in on a long term deal, crash in a car accident while racing and actually be 35 years old right now. He to comes with risk.

[G-Snarls]

f*** Gerry Dee and f*** fake twitter accounts

 

I just got punked by a fake Ken Rosenthal account because Gerry Dee liked a tweet saying Jays had re signed Edwin

 

Grrrrrrr

[Abomination]

Who would you rather have - Cespedes 5 years $125M, EE 4 years $100M or Fowler 4 Years $80M???

 

It's an interesting question. I'm not convinced Fowler will age well.

 

I'm a little concerned by Cespedes drop in defense and base running this year. I'm not sure if it's age or minor injury related. I'd also love to know if his spike in walk rate is the new norm or not. If it is, and if his defense returns, and if we keep him out of CF, he'd probably provide the most value of any of the people available by a good margin.

 

Eddie's K rate has been creeping up the last few years, and over the last two he's showing less contact and a higher swinging strike rate. That's a little worrying to me when we're talking 25M / year for someone who is almost 34.

[Stangstag]

lol there's no way Bautista would sign with the Rangers.

 

Don't be surprised, money talks. Everyone thought there was anger between Price and the Redsox, but 200 million made that anger magically evaporate.

[G-Snarls]

If not for the Odor incident I could totally see Texas signing Bautista

 

Hard to get past that though

[The Cats Ass]

Don't be surprised, money talks. Everyone thought there was anger between Price and the Redsox, but 200 million made that anger magically evaporate.

 

Did one of the Redsox's current players punch Price in the face?

[The Cats Ass]

If not for the Odor incident I could totally see Texas signing Bautista

 

Hard to get past that though

 

No way I think Bautista signs with Texas. They'd have to be far and away the highest offer I feel.

[HERPDERP]

Did one of the Redsox's current players punch Price in the face?

 

the only animosity between 2015 Red Sox roster players and David Price was David Ortiz.

[saskjayfan]

So who thinks Bautista is coming back?

 

mlbtraderumors

[Bobthe4th]

Who would you rather have - Cespedes 5 years $125M, EE 4 years $100M or Fowler 4 Years $80M???

 

This is a great question but shouldn't be looked at in isolation. I think it's fairer to say do you want EE and a cheap outfielder, or Cepedes/Fowler and a cheap 1B/DH. I doubt we'll be signing two big contracts guys for both positions.

[saskjayfan]

the only animosity between 2015 Red Sox roster players and David Price was David Ortiz.

 

The personalities of Bats and Price couldn't be any different either. I like both guys, but they are very different people.

[Mittens87]

Guys s*** talk a lot especially in sports like hockey you just forget about it. Don't know how it would work with face punching, they would have to get over it. Would be funny for the Rangers GM to bring Bautista in and use him to punish the regulars when they strike out too much or make errors. Eg. Bench odor for a week and Bautista plays their position. Probably won't happen though

[Brownie19]

f*** Gerry Dee and f*** fake twitter accounts

 

I just got punked by a fake Ken Rosenthal account because Gerry Dee liked a tweet saying Jays had re signed Edwin

 

Grrrrrrr

 

How dare you speak of Gerry Dee like that. Canadian legend.

[Brownie19]

This is a great question but shouldn't be looked at in isolation. I think it's fairer to say do you want EE and a cheap outfielder, or Cepedes/Fowler and a cheap 1B/DH. I doubt we'll be signing two big contracts guys for both positions.

 

I don't look at it like this at all - nor should you. I simply want the be value for the money.

[Governator]

Don't be surprised, money talks. Everyone thought there was anger between Price and the Redsox, but 200 million made that anger magically evaporate.

 

 

Those two are not remotely similar in context... Bautista will take door #2 for a couple million less 10/10 times over that team.

[Mittens87]

But no there is not really any chance Bautista goes to Texas, waste of time even having the discussion. He still has some pride. Just weeks ago he was talking about how he doesn't like them and they don't like him. The fans hate him

[BTS]

But no there is not really any chance Bautista goes to Texas, waste of time even having the discussion. He still has some pride. Just weeks ago he was talking about how he doesn't like them and they don't like him. The fans hate him

 

Johnny Damon and Jacoby Ellsbury went to New York. This rivalry stuff is for the fans. If Texas is the high bidder, he'll happily go and be welcomed with open arms by their fans and players.

[Spanky99]

Doesn't surprise me.

Two or three teams might be willing to bite.

 

That's 5-7 million per too high for a DH in his 30's, I'd max at 20 but rather pay 18, just my opinion. I'm saying this as a huge Edwin fan. I had his back when he was DFA'd and called E-5, if someone wants to pay that, well, have at it.