Rangers vs Jays ALDS Discussion

[Stangstag]

Gibbons isn't crazy enough to start Navarro tomorrow, right?

 

No, unless Martin is actually hurting.

[Stangstag]

Optimal lineup for tomorrow:

 

Travis

Donaldson

Edwin

Bautista

Tulowitzki

Martin

Upton

Pillar

Carrera

[Abomination]

No, unless Martin is actually hurting.

 

He tore his finger open in the celebration last night and had to get stitches. Apparently he's good to go though.

[Caper]

Gibbons isn't crazy enough to start Navarro tomorrow, right?

 

It's not that crazy. Martin has a cut hand. They are about the same offensive threat.. Martins D is better but DN is not terrible and has had success with Marco.

[Rusty_Savage]

It's not that crazy. Martin has a cut hand. They are about the same offensive threat.. Martins D is better but DN is not terrible and has had success with Marco.

 

Navarro has had success with Marco because Marco is good. It doesn't have much to do with Navarro.

[Stangstag]

It's not that crazy. Martin has a cut hand. They are about the same offensive threat.. Martins D is better but DN is not terrible and has had success with Marco.

 

Nope

[jays4life19]

It's not that crazy. Martin has a cut hand. They are about the same offensive threat.. Martins D is better but DN is not terrible and has had success with Marco.

 

Thanks for the quote for "Dumb things BJMB say"

[Jonn]

Martin needs to be moved to the bottom of the lineup. Probably 7th with hand injury.

 

Travis

Donaldson

Encarnacion

Bautista

Tulo

Upton

Martin

Pillar

Zeke

[admin]

Jays really needed a Beltran/Pearce upgrade at the deadline. Should be a rule whatever team you beat in the playoffs you can pick one guy from their team.

[saskjayfan]

Martin needs to be moved to the bottom of the lineup. Probably 7th with hand injury.

 

Travis

Donaldson

Encarnacion

Bautista

Tulo

Upton

Martin

Pillar

Zeke

 

Upton hitting 6th. I'm glad you're not the manager

[BigCecil]

Jays really needed a Beltran/Pearce upgrade at the deadline. Should be a rule whatever team you beat in the playoffs you can pick one guy from their team.

 

I liked the Pearce addition O's made and anytime you can add a SH bat like Beltran that's a huge tool. In fairness I think Jays FO thought they would get more out of Upton than they have to date. Really hope he can get something going against TEX.

[Stangstag]

Jays really needed a Beltran/Pearce upgrade at the deadline. Should be a rule whatever team you beat in the playoffs you can pick one guy from their team.

 

What. This isn't a f***ing videogame

[o2cui2i]

I liked the Pearce addition O's made and anytime you can add a SH bat like Beltran that's a huge tool. In fairness I think Jays FO thought they would get more out of Upton than they have to date. Really hope he can get something going against TEX.

 

I really didn't mind the whole saunders/upton/Smoak DH option. if any of them really suck it will be limited with the changes later in the game.

 

 

they really need to swap Tulo and Martin.

 

the whole -Pillar-Carrera and then roll over to Travis setup has been very good. Carrera and Pillar have been very clutch the last 10 games.

[Jonn]

Upton hitting 6th. I'm glad you're not the manager

 

Against a lefty why not? Martin is struggling and now has a hand injury. Its really Upton or Pillar. Or Martin just hit 6th and you have Upton, Pillar, and Zeke all in order something I wanted to avoid in my thought process as well.

[KingKat]

Slash lines of the catchers:

 

Martin: .231/.335/.398

Navarro: .182/.250/.182

Thole: .169/.254./.220

 

One of these is not like the others. Hint: Navarro and Thole are practically the same, Martin is not.

[admin]

What. This isn't a f***ing videogame

 

What does that even f***ing mean? The Jays can't make a better upgrade than Upton? You like Smoak and Navarro off the bench? lol

[jaysguy44]

What. This isn't a f***ing videogame

 

Was he actually being serious.....?

[ChrisS]

Navarro is garbage for the most part. Terrible framer, no speed on the bases. I think Thole might have been just as good a PH as him. Look at Tholes offensive stats 2nd half of the season, they are abit better.

[Angrioter]

Navarro is garbage for the most part. Terrible framer, no speed on the bases. I think Thole might have been just as good a PH as him. Look at Tholes offensive stats 2nd half of the season, they are abit better.

 

What?....

[KingKat]

What?....

 

It's true. Navarro was a worse hitter than Thole. Which is crazy.

[Stangstag]

What does that even f***ing mean? The Jays can't make a better upgrade than Upton? You like Smoak and Navarro off the bench? lol

 

You said there should be a rule where you can take a player from a team you beat in the postseason. I'm saying that's stupid.

[admin]

You said there should be a rule where you can take a player from a team you beat in the postseason. I'm saying that's stupid.

 

Oh lol. I forgot I put that in there. Yes, I was serious about that...

[Stangstag]

Oh lol. I forgot I put that in there. Yes, I was serious about that...

 

I thought you were serious. My bad

[Spanky99]

Probables...

 

http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/news/probable_pitchers/index.jsp?c_id=tor

[ChrisS]

What?....

2nd half:

Navarro .525 OPS 41 WRC+

Thole .583 OPS 54 WRC+

[Candide]

here's a random hypothetical that I had with a friend yesterday. would you guys rather have the Jays, over the course of the next 8 seasons:

 

1) win the division/wild card annually but have only a 25% chance of winning the World Series in any given season

2) win the world series once within the 8 seasons, but play sub .500 ball for the remaining 7 seasons?

[Boxcar]

here's a random hypothetical that I had with a friend yesterday. would you guys rather have the Jays, over the course of the next 8 seasons:

 

1) win the division/wild card annually but have only a 25% chance of winning the World Series in any given season

2) win the world series once within the 8 seasons, but play sub .500 ball for the remaining 7 seasons?

 

With 1, by probability you'd win it twice in 8 seasons...so whoever chooses #2 is a dummy.

[Candide]

With 1, by probability you'd win it twice in 8 seasons...so whoever chooses #2 is a dummy.

 

that was exactly my point. my buddy (Jays fan) went with #2. I told him he either sucks at basic probability or is just saying that but couldn't actually endure the torture of 1,134 meaningless games.

 

If we were Cubs fans though? Would probably go with #1 and then follow the Blackhawks and Bulls.

[BTS]

With 1, by probability you'd win it twice in 8 seasons...so whoever chooses #2 is a dummy.

 

Even if you don't win in scenario 1: if the Cubs repeat this season for the next 7 years but never win a WS and the Indians win this year and then then are mismanaged to also-ran sub-0.500 status for the next 7, which team has the more successful and interesting 8-year stretch? I think it's the Cubs, and it isn't close.

[Sammy225]

It's not that crazy. Martin has a cut hand. They are about the same offensive threat.. Martins D is better but DN is not terrible and has had success with Marco.

 

They should sterilize you