G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 I'd say he's probably one of the most likely. If Gausman can't go, they should do this. Even if Gausman can go, they should tell him he has 4-5 innings and then the pen is taking over. That pen is too good to not use it in a one game do or die
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Hopefully we and the other WC conteders can keep pressure on Showalter to keep using all those guys over the last 6 regular season games And Girardi might not let the Yankees mail it in against them on the weekend even though they will have been eliminated
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Someone just brought this up in a FG chat, but the Orioles are probably a lot more dangerous if they turn the WC into a bullpen game. Something like: Bundy - 2-3 innings Givens - 1-2 innings Brach - 1-2 innings O'Day - 1-2 innings And then Britton 2 innings to close it out. That would be very, very tough. Yeah I would not want to face that at all. The Tigers don't look like a good option to face either. Verlander and/or Fulmer are set up pretty well to pitch the WC game. Their lineup is pretty good, although right handed heavy so Sanchez could be a good option against them.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Hopefully we and the other WC conteders can keep pressure on Showalter to keep using all those guys over the last 6 regular season games And Girardi might not let the Yankees mail it in against them on the weekend even though they will have been eliminated Girardi will be trying hard to win those games. He'll want to push his win total up this year as much as he can so he can say he fielded a competitive team with the young players.
ChrisS Verified Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Someone just brought this up in a FG chat, but the Orioles are probably a lot more dangerous if they turn the WC into a bullpen game. Something like: Bundy - 2-3 innings Givens - 1-2 innings Brach - 1-2 innings O'Day - 1-2 innings And then Britton 2 innings to close it out. That would be very, very tough. Maybe the Jays would be open to burning 2 starters, say Sanchez for 4-5, Stroman for 3-4, Cecil if we need a lefty out and Osuna for 4 or 5 outs etc
Governator Community Moderator Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Maybe the Jays would be open to burning 2 starters, say Sanchez for 4-5, Stroman for 3-4, Cecil if we need a lefty out and Osuna for 4 or 5 outs etc I don't think we are going to experiment that in the WC game. Remember Dickey in extras when we had other options last week?
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Yeah I would not want to face that at all. The Tigers don't look like a good option to face either. Verlander and/or Fulmer are set up pretty well to pitch the WC game. Their lineup is pretty good, although right handed heavy so Sanchez could be a good option against them. The Tigers are scary. I'm sure they'll set up so Verlander goes, and he might be the best pitcher in the AL (again). RH heavy lineup is a nice matchup for Sanchez, but Cabrera, Kinsler, and the Martnez's is a lot of lumber.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Girardi will be trying hard to win those games. He'll want to push his win total up this year as much as he can so he can say he fielded a competitive team with the young players. Yeah and it's an unwritten rule in baseball that if you're out of it, you field as competitive a roster as possible against teams that are still in it. You only get cute against teams that are also out of it.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 The Orioles have a stacked pen, but the Tigers have an even more stacked lineup. Verlander is a lot better than Tillman or Gausman, so I suppose I'd still rather face Baltimore.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Seems like the best way to compete against a bullpen start from the O's would be to piggy back starters. No third time through the lineup for anyone.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Gibby will likely have a second starter mentally prepared to go just in case whoever starts is having a rough go I suspect most managers would do this in a one game playoff
Governator Community Moderator Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 We're 6-2 at home against Baltimore and Tigers scare me. I also love the Jays/Orioles rivalry and hope that's what we get for the WC game.
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 I don't think we are going to experiment that in the WC game. Remember Dickey in extras when we had other options last week? Not that I would consider putting Dickey on the playoff squad, but that inning was JD's fault. Dickey got a grounder that was thrown away, a bunt attempt that went south defensively at 3rd, and a lazy (sac) fly to left. Totally wasn't on his head.
ChrisS Verified Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 I don't think we are going to experiment that in the WC game. Remember Dickey in extras when we had other options last week? Well they better figure something out because right now I dont have alot of confidence in our bullpen and 6 innings of Brach, Oday and Britton is scary.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 The Orioles have a stacked pen, but the Tigers have an even more stacked lineup. Verlander is a lot better than Tillman or Gausman, so I suppose I'd still rather face Baltimore. I think I agree. A bullpen game from the O's could be scary but facing Verlander and the Tigers lineup would be no better.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Marco Estrada: [h=4]Times Facing Opponent in Game[/h]Direct Link · Glossary · SHARE · Embed · CSV · Export · PRE · LINK · ? 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Happ: Times Facing Opponent in Game Direct Link · Glossary · SHARE · Embed · CSV · Export · PRE · LINK · ? 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ChrisS Verified Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 The Orioles have a stacked pen, but the Tigers have an even more stacked lineup. Verlander is a lot better than Tillman or Gausman, so I suppose I'd still rather face Baltimore. Verlander is a K machine and we strike out alot. Hopefully the Tigers will be forced to use Verlander on Sunday and the Os forced to use their bullpen heavily on the weekend.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) The Tigers are scary. I'm sure they'll set up so Verlander goes, and he might be the best pitcher in the AL (again). RH heavy lineup is a nice matchup for Sanchez, but Cabrera, Kinsler, and the Martnez's is a lot of lumber. Survive Verlander by working the counts Destroy the s***** ass bullpen Flip bats Yell at Victor Martinez Guzzle sparkling wine and beer Bring on the Rangers Edited September 28, 2016 by G-Snarls
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Also Tigers COULD end up with a must win game on Sunday and have to use Verlander then Though then we get Fullmer who is still tough too
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 So based on what I posted above: - Sanchez is the best of the five first time through the order and as good as anyone second or third time through. - Happ has a pronounced dropoff third time through and somewhat counter-intuitively should have a short leash in those situations. - Recent counter examples aside, Estrada doesn't really drop off second or third time through. - Stroman really shouldn't see a lineup three times. - Liriano shouldn't either and really probably shouldn't be starting in a high leverage game.
Governator Community Moderator Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 If they are throwing Tillman we might score enough to win in the 1st inning and you can all relax a bit. I really wouldn't change our recipe, score early, hope our Sanchez goes 6 or 7 1 run ball, use Cecil/Grilli/Osuna to close out who will likely all be on minimum 2 days rest and jacked for the game. Yes if Sanchez blows early like 3 innings in of course use another starter as the long arm but to assume he's going to roll over the 3rd time through when he really hasn't all year seems like an odd way to look at it.
ChrisS Verified Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 So based on what I posted above: - Sanchez is the best of the five first time through the order and as good as anyone second or third time through. - Happ has a pronounced dropoff third time through and somewhat counter-intuitively should have a short leash in those situations. - Recent counter examples aside, Estrada doesn't really drop off second or third time through. - Stroman really shouldn't see a lineup three times. - Liriano shouldn't either and really probably shouldn't be starting in a high leverage game. Looking at the way things line up for Tuesday. Sanchez to the 3rd time through the lineup and a very short leash and then Stroman
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Looking at the way things line up for Tuesday. Sanchez to the 3rd time through the lineup and a very short leash and then Stroman I'm not convinced Stroman is preferrable to a reliever. Happ or Estrada might be. Mostly I'd say that what I posted confirms that Sanchez is the right guy and can be trusted deep into the game. Piggy-back should be thought of a more of an insurance policy than a strategy. The only starter who seems to have lights out reliever potential is Sanchez himself. Hurl's plan makes a lot of sense.
ChrisS Verified Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 I'm not convinced Stroman is preferrable to a reliever. Happ or Estrada might be. Mostly I'd say that what I posted confirms that Sanchez is the right guy and can be trusted deep into the game. Piggy-back should be thought of a more of an insurance policy than a strategy. The only starter who seems to have lights out reliever potential is Sanchez himself. Hurl's plan makes a lot of sense. Its its Baltimore Id rather have Sanchez and Happ piggyback. Problem is the way things line up, Happ is supposed to go on Saturday. He could be skipped if we clinch WC1 by then but we all have seen how the pitching staff performs with extra rest.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Its its Baltimore Id rather have Sanchez and Happ piggyback. Problem is the way things line up, Happ is supposed to go on Saturday. He could be skipped if we clinch WC1 by then but we all have seen how the pitching staff performs with extra rest. I've pretty much talked myself out of the piggyback. Sanchez + as few relievers as possible should be plan A. By then, Liriano will have made his last start and be the mopup guy going forward and as a LHP he's not even a bad option if it's the Orioles though Orioles or not if it comes down to Francisco, it means things have gone very poorly and the team might be f***ed regardless.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Best case scenario. More than 1 team ties for the second wild card. This could happen. Detroit has Atlanta and Seattle has Oakland.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2016 Posted October 2, 2016 Need to add in Liriano and subtract Sanchez from this poll. Or maybe wait a few hours to see who Gibbons picks. Liriano would be my preference out of him, Stroman and Estrada assuming Happ is out as well.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2016 Posted October 2, 2016 Everything is lined up for Liriano He is having a great end to the season Orioles suck against LHP He has experience ( so does Stroman here i suppose) It would be a huge mistake to start Stroman over him.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2016 Posted October 2, 2016 I agree with starting Liriano. Stroman just hasn't been good enough lately.
BillBucknorslegs Verified Member Posted October 2, 2016 Posted October 2, 2016 Liriano vs Tillman? Not sure I like how that lines up in a winner-takes-all game.
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