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Why are baseball managers so dumb? Navarro at DH, Reimold in CF, Tommy Hunter pitching in the 8th in a close game...

 

Ugh.

 

I think you can throw rolling the dice a 3rd time with Saunders vs Jimenez last night when he had pen help ready, in that discussion.

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If we'd had Navarro all year and the team re-acquired Smoak in the same way, we'd all be throwing confetti for at least getting a league average bat and glove in the lineup.

 

I know the cop hat and cigar pic is meme-worthy, but are people just not looking at Navarro's numbers this year?

 

The cop hat and cigar pic has got to be worth at least .5 WAR though don't ya think?

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I thought managers had little effect on the game?

 

Little is not nothing though. The batting order generally has little effect too. The concern is playing sub-optimally and for seemingly no reason (health, etc.). Every AB counts.

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I thought managers had little effect on the game?

 

Over the course of a season its meaningless, but it's still annoying to witness. We could bat Donaldson 8th and it wouldn't make much difference (see Ned Yost) but that doesn't change the fact that it is annoying to see.

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Why?

 

he's capable of putting up professional AB's (even if he hasn't shown it this year) unlike Smoak who just closes his eyes and swings.

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he's capable of putting up professional AB's (even if he hasn't shown it this year) unlike Smoak who just closes his eyes and swings.

 

But "closing his eyes and swinging" still gets Smoak more professional results than whatever Navarro's been doing this year.

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he's capable of putting up professional AB's (even if he hasn't shown it this year) unlike Smoak who just closes his eyes and swings.

 

ZIPS ROS: Navarro 75 wRC+

ZIPS ROS: Smoak 96 wRC+

 

...that's a huge difference in projected performance going forward.

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Ok, but would you take Navarro at DH over Upton in the OF?

 

no that's a different story, I just wanted to show everyone how much I hate Smoak.

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ZIPS ROS: Navarro 75 wRC+

ZIPS ROS: Smoak 96 wRC+

 

...that's a huge difference in projected performance going forward.

 

75 wRC+ Catcher as a 1B/DH = 40 wRC+

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I'm surprised there is so little talk about Saunders hitting clean up and Tulo pushed back even farther.
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I'm surprised there is so little talk about Saunders hitting clean up and Tulo pushed back even farther.

 

apparently people would rather talk about how awesome Smoak is.

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Saunders destroys Orioles pitching. Has looked good despite being in and out of the lineup recently.
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Smoaks garbage to so it really doesn't matter

 

As bad as Smoak is, Navarro is 10x as bad. Gibbons is a f***ing joke. Smoak is atleast decent his last dozen games. Navarro is a backup catcher and being a DH is f***ing ridiculous. And one of your best hitters batting last. What a f***ing joke.

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I'm surprised there is so little talk about Saunders hitting clean up and Tulo pushed back even farther.

 

I have been wondering for months now why Martin keeps hitting ahead of tulo, stupid.

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