AL MVP Race

[reedjohnsonfan]

Who's winning the MVP race?

 

Donaldson is the clear favourite IMO. Altuve is probably a close second and might get the nod.

 

 

Other players who could win with a hot 2 months:

Machado

Trout

Betts

Bogaerts

[dineke]

travis

[Jonn]

I don't think Donaldson is the clear favorite anymore. If the Astros make the playoffs. Altuve wins in a landslide.

[Grant77]

Altuve is having a great year, but he's still a fair bit behind Donaldson and Trout despite a career high BABIP. It would be a real slap in the face to those two if things stay the same and he wins.

[jaysblue]

Wouldn't count out Ortiz. We know how the voters will react to it being his last season and stuff, I'm sure he'll get a good chunk of votes.

 

Though I think it's between Donaldson, and Altuve. If the Astros don't make the postseason, that will be taken into consideration. Trout should be in the conversation as well, though only with 21 HR's and playing on a losing team, the voters won't give him much acknowledgement.

[Angrioter]

Altuve, Papi or Donaldson

 

 

Papi is the loved one for the voters

[reedjohnsonfan]

Wouldn't count out Ortiz. We know how the voters will react to it being his last season and stuff, I'm sure he'll get a good chunk of votes.

 

Though I think it's between Donaldson, and Altuve. If the Astros don't make the postseason, that will be taken into consideration. Trout should be in the conversation as well, though only with 21 HR's and playing on a losing team, the voters won't give him much acknowledgement.

 

You know what... that's a good point, Ortiz does have an outside shot for sure. You could definitely make a fair case for him especially if they win the division.

[Cyborg]

Should be MVP race:

Trout

Donaldson

Altuve

 

Actual MVP race:

Altuve

Donaldson

Trout

[gbill2004]

It's Donaldson again.

[Governator]

Someone suggested here they should have an MVP and a Player of the Year which I agree with. Considering MVP highly relates to overall team performance and the best players in the league don't always get the recognition they deserve.

 

That said, I think voters love batting champs as well and Altuve wins it if Houston is in the postseason and the two remain close in WAR.

[Jonn]

Should be MVP race:

Trout

Donaldson

Altuve

 

Actual MVP race:

Altuve

Donaldson

Trout

 

Trout can win the Hank Aaron Award and Silver Slugger. Save the MVP's with players whose team aren't in the cellar.

[jays_fever]

Ortiz will likely finish around 4th-5th and ahead of Betts. No one should expect anything less

[Krylian]

Altuve

Donaldson

Trout

Ortiz

 

 

In that order

[RealAccountant]

Someone suggested here they should have an MVP and a Player of the Year which I agree with. Considering MVP highly relates to overall team performance and the best players in the league don't always get the recognition they deserve.

 

That said, I think voters love batting champs as well and Altuve wins it if Houston is in the postseason and the two remain close in WAR.

 

Too many awards make the awards worth less

 

Look at the NHL they have like 5 awards for forwards

[Atothe]

Trout should his second. Really he should have 4

[burlingtonbandit]

Someone suggested here they should have an MVP and a Player of the Year which I agree with. Considering MVP highly relates to overall team performance and the best players in the league don't always get the recognition they deserve.

 

That said, I think voters love batting champs as well and Altuve wins it if Houston is in the postseason and the two remain close in WAR.

 

I don't get this. MVP should be most valuable player on any team. So if a team could take any player for that year who would it be? Clearly its Trout.

[CJ-Freeway]

Depends on if the Jays make the playoffs and what JD does there. Their WAR numbers are very close but Trout is better by a bit.

[Jimcanuck]

Depends on if the Jays make the playoffs and what JD does there. Their WAR numbers are very close but Trout is better by a bit.

 

voting is before the postseason starts

[RealAccountant]

If the Orioles win AL East it should be Machado hands down

[GD]

something something WAR's error bars are not precise enough / meant for an MVP race

[CJ-Freeway]

something something WAR's error bars are not precise enough / meant for an MVP race

 

I agree but it's a pretty good start. Not sure if they're included in WAR but OPS+, RC+ are also nice stats to look at.

[CJ-Freeway]

voting is before the postseason starts

 

Damn, really? I'm dumn. Well I say it depends if the Jays make the playoffs then. I think that would give JD a considerable advantage, especially if we win the AL East.

[GD]

I agree but it's a pretty good start. Not sure if they're included in WAR but OPS+, RC+ are also nice stats to look at.

 

Offensive component of WAR is wRC+ by playing time

 

Imo Cyborg is gonna be dumn and complain when Altuve wins cause Trout had 0.000613252696969696969 WAR more than him

[Brownie19]

Trout can win the Hank Aaron Award and Silver Slugger. Save the MVP's with players whose team aren't in the cellar.

 

Good point - it's Trout's fault for not making his Owner and GM better at their jobs.

[GD]

Good point - it's Trout's fault for not making his Owner and GM better at their jobs.

 

Good players make those around them better at their jobs

[Angrioter]

Trout can win the Hank Aaron Award and Silver Slugger. Save the MVP's with players whose team aren't in the cellar.

 

Agree.

 

Trout signed Lincecum, Weaver and CJ Wilson

[Krylian]

I've said it before, I've said it again...MVP is such an ambiguous term. Everyone seems to have different criteria for what they think it should encapsulate, so how can you really grade it properly. Is it the most dominant player that year...does team success have something to do with it?

 

Personally...I think it should be called, TBP (The Best Player). Forget how the team did. Who had the most dominant statistical season. Period. A dominant player shouldn't be penalized because his team doesn't have what it takes. If you want to award players on great teams then create an award for ensemble cast.

[Nafro]

Agree.

 

Trout signed Lincecum, Weaver and CJ Wilson

 

Actually Seattle's GM signed Weaver and Wilson. Though the Angel's GM did trade for Ricky Nolasco!

[RealAccountant]

A team that does not make the playoffs has no value and thus cannot have a most valuable player.

[baseballsss]

I've said it before, I've said it again...MVP is such an ambiguous term. Everyone seems to have different criteria for what they think it should encapsulate, so how can you really grade it properly. Is it the most dominant player that year...does team success have something to do with it?

 

Personally...I think it should be called, TBP (The Best Player). Forget how the team did. Who had the most dominant statistical season. Period. A dominant player shouldn't be penalized because his team doesn't have what it takes. If you want to award players on great teams then create an award for ensemble cast.

 

I think most people came to terms a long time ago that team success should not matter except the dinosaur voters a few people that hate change.