Jays the front runners for Melvin Upton

[G-Snarls]

I wouldn't even give this any airtime if it weren't for the fact that Rosenthal is reporting it

 

Trades that he reports are close tend to become reality pretty often and often very quickly

[G-Snarls]

Another player that the Rays were smart to let walk to get big $$ elsewhere

 

Did they get a comp pick for him?

[Jonn]

BJ is pretty much warm garbage, strikes out a ton, doesn't walk, has almost zero pop in his bat the last 3 years before running into a few this year. He plays passable defense, but he is prone to some serious slumps at the plate where he looks absolutely lost at the plate ala justin smoak. Hes not BJ from 2011 and prior. Dont need him, much rather the jays go after some help for the pen.

 

You clearly haven't watched Baseball outside of the Blue Jays this year. Retarded post.

[thatoneguy]

BJ is pretty much warm garbage, strikes out a ton, doesn't walk, has almost zero pop in his bat the last 3 years before running into a few this year. He plays passable defense, but he is prone to some serious slumps at the plate where he looks absolutely lost at the plate ala justin smoak. Hes not BJ from 2011 and prior. Dont need him, much rather the jays go after some help for the pen.

 

Please stop offering anecdotal hot takes without actually looking further into anything.

[Maahfaace]

You clearly haven't watched Baseball outside of the Blue Jays this year. Retarded post.

 

You clearly haven't paid attention to Upton's career at all, go do some research and then try and refute my with something other than "youre drunk" or "retarded post"

[THANOS]

You clearly haven't watched Baseball outside of the Blue Jays this year. Retarded post.

 

What's off with his post? Upton is k'ing nearly 30% this season with a .304 OBP and -1.7 Def WAR. His wRC+ is league average at .100 as well.

[Daniel Labude]

Cause Saunders doesn't deserve to lose any playing time that's for sure

 

Bautista could DH and Edwin 1B but then was does Smoak do? (I wouldn't care if it weren't for his new contract extension)

 

This move is solely because the team has said Bautista is DHing a lot more down the stretch. Smoak doesn't deserve to be on the team, but he is a decent defensive replacement late in games. Smoak signed an extension solely as an emergency option for next year....assuming we resign no one.

[Stangstag]

This move is solely because the team has said Bautista is DHing a lot more down the stretch. Smoak doesn't deserve to be on the team, but he is a decent defensive replacement late in games. Smoak signed an extension solely as an emergency option for next year....assuming we resign no one.

 

This

[jaysblue]

You clearly haven't paid attention to Upton's career at all, go do some research and then try and refute my with something other than "youre drunk" or "retarded post"

 

4.5 WAR in 2007

4.8 WAR in 2008

2.3 WAR in 2009

3.8 WAR in 2010

3.7 WAR in 2011

3.3 WAR in 2012

1.6 WAR in 2015 in only 87 games

 

You must have thought his 2013 and 2014 Atlanta years were his entire career.

[Pendleton]

If they would take back Storen and send us about $8M, they'd effectively be eating half of Upton's remaining money.

 

At that point how much do you think we add on top?Decent pitching prospect with some helium like Perdomo, plus a lesser piece or two?

[G-Snarls]

This move is solely because the team has said Bautista is DHing a lot more down the stretch. Smoak doesn't deserve to be on the team, but he is a decent defensive replacement late in games. Smoak signed an extension solely as an emergency option for next year....assuming we resign no one.

 

This all makes a lot of sense

[Jonn]

You clearly haven't paid attention to Upton's career at all, go do some research and then try and refute my with something other than "youre drunk" or "retarded post"

 

His numbers have been decent for a calendar year. Since the second half of last season he has quietly rebuit his career in an extreme pitchers park. Yes hes going to strikeout. But hes going to provide power, speed, and quality defense on either corner with a throwing arm. A vast improvement over every Outfielder we have not named Pillar.

 

This also parks Smoaks ass on the bench.

[Jonn]

4.5 WAR in 2007

4.8 WAR in 2008

2.3 WAR in 2009

3.8 WAR in 2010

3.7 WAR in 2011

3.3 WAR in 2012

1.6 WAR in 2015 in only 87 games

 

You must have thought his 2013 and 2014 Atlanta years were his entire career.

 

Thank you

[Daniel Labude]

What's off with his post? Upton is k'ing nearly 30% this season with a .304 OBP and -1.7 Def WAR. His wRC+ is league average at .100 as well.

 

1. Always look at the team he plays with...on our team he would be around much better hitters and probably would get more pitches in the zone and K less

2. Look at the ball park he is playing in

3. Look at the other teams in his division 3/4 have ok to great pitching.

4. Look at the ballparks in his division

 

Overall I would expect the offensive numbers to get increasingly better on our team.

[Grant77]

Another player that the Rays were smart to let walk to get big $$ elsewhere

 

Did they get a comp pick for him?

 

Ryne Stanek.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=sa548245&position=P

[Maahfaace]

His numbers have been decent for a calendar year. Since the second half of last season he has quietly rebuit his career in an extreme pitchers park. Yes hes going to strikeout. But hes going to provide power, speed, and quality defense on either corner with a throwing arm. A vast improvement over every Outfielder we have not named Pillar.

 

This also parks Smoaks ass on the bench.

 

Zeke 1.1 WAR 98 wRC+

BJ 1.5 WAR 100 wRC+

 

What you're saying just isn't true.

[Abomination]

What's off with his post? Upton is k'ing nearly 30% this season with a .304 OBP and -1.7 Def WAR. His wRC+ is league average at .100 as well.

 

-1.7 is NOT defensive WAR

[King]

BJ is pretty much warm garbage, strikes out a ton, doesn't walk, has almost zero pop in his bat the last 3 years before running into a few this year. He plays passable defense, but he is prone to some serious slumps at the plate where he looks absolutely lost at the plate ala justin smoak. Hes not BJ from 2011 and prior. Dont need him, much rather the jays go after some help for the pen.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/i-dont-mean-to-alarm-you-but-melvin-upton-jr-is-back/

 

He's on pace for a 2.5 fWAR season, certainly a nice player to have, and not the shitbag that he was in 2013 and 2014.

[Maahfaace]

Thank you

 

Again, orginal post said this isnt circa 2011, BJ has been below replacement level for the last 3 years prior to some HR luck this year

[Jonn]

Again, orginal post said this isnt circa 2011, BJ has been below replacement level for the last 3 years prior to some HR luck this year

 

You can't find my ignore list fast enough. I wish I wasn't on mobile right now

[King]

Again, orginal post said this isnt circa 2011, BJ has been below replacement level for the last 3 years prior to some HR luck this year

He had 1.6 fWAR in 87 games last season.

[Maahfaace]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/i-dont-mean-to-alarm-you-but-melvin-upton-jr-is-back/

 

He's on pace for a 2.5 fWAR season, certainly a nice player to have, and not the shitbag that he was in 2013 and 2014.

 

he's hovers sub .300 obp and won't steal nearly as many bases here, he's really not a good fit, even if he runs into the occasional HR

[glory]

A 2 WAR OF has value, and that's pretty much what he is now. Not someone I'd pay $16M to, so depends how much SD is covering. Upgrade over Smoak in 2016, and OF depth for 2017 if/when JB and MS leave.

[Maahfaace]

You can't find my ignore list fast enough. I wish I wasn't on mobile right now

 

lol ignore me for what? disagreeing with your take on BJ as a BJ? Not like I called you a drunk retard or anything. Quite the sensitive lass arent ya?

[Abomination]

Again, orginal post said this isnt circa 2011, BJ has been below replacement level for the last 3 years prior to some HR luck this year

 

He's gotten a little lucky with the home runs, but he's also changed his approach at the plate. He's not pull happy any more, much like he was early in his career. That's a HUGE departure from the last few years.

[Jonn]

Only person fighting for Zeke to stay on the roster.... Speaking of players who caught a lucky hot streak. And continued in the leadoff spot for another 3 weeks despite not hitting at all.

[jaysblue]

Again, orginal post said this isnt circa 2011, BJ has been below replacement level for the last 3 years prior to some HR luck this year

 

[Maahfaace]

He had 1.6 fWAR in 87 games last season.

 

did he not put up negative fWAR the 2 years prior ?

[Maahfaace]

Only person fighting for Zeke to stay on the roster.... Speaking of players who caught a lucky hot streak. And continued in the leadoff spot for another 3 weeks despite not hitting at all.

 

not fighting for zeke at all, but replacing him with BJ isnt this VAST improvement you speak of

[Effit]

BTW, Why isn't he BJ anymore?

 

He might have to bring it back..Blue Jay Upton.