2016 MLB All-Star Discussion [San Diego, CA; July 12]

[BTS]

I'm not seeing the problem here.

[Angrioter]

Sanchez is 9-1, right?

[Krylian]

Fixed title. You guys are right nothing against Kluber. I thought Kluber, Sanchez, Fulmer and Quintana should have got consideration. Butt hurt Jays fan in me wanted Sanchez

 

Rub some ointment on it.

[Laika]

have they replaced Davis yet?

[Terminator]

I'd probably take Kluber too. Advanced stats are probably better and he's a CY Young winner and a bon a fide star. That deserves deference IMO as I'd rather the All-Star game be played by actual stars and not half year wonders (not saying that Sanchez will be a half year wonder but if you take less proven players you run that risk).

 

The real surprise is that Ned Yost of all people took a guy who is 8-8 over a guy who is 9-1.

[Jonn]

My issue is not Kluber its Brad Brach and Craig Kimbrel. Starters are more valuable to teams. To be honest though if Saunders isn't winning the final vote in a landslide it's probably Sanchez.

 

I hope Sanchez has another shot to get in.

[Grant77]

My issue is not Kluber its Brad Brach and Craig Kimbrel. Starters are more valuable to teams. To be honest though if Saunders isn't winning the final vote in a landslide it's probably Sanchez.

 

Relievers deserve representation in the all-star game, not that I support those choices entirely.

[Jonn]

Relievers deserve representation in the all-star game, not that I support those choices entirely.

 

Sure but not that many. Kimbrel didn't need to make it in especially since so many Red Sox position players did.

[G-Snarls]

Also, Yost sees Kluber more in division and Kluber probably kills his team (unable to check if true or.not)

[G-Snarls]

Relievers deserve representation in the all-star game, not that I support those choices entirely.

 

Same. I actually understand why you'd want lots of them as you're generally asking each to throw one inning or even just face 1-2 batters. RP are much more used to this obviously.

 

If your objective is to win the game having a bunch of closer types makes sense.

 

If you're trying to represent the league then this seems RP heavy

 

In an interview yesterday Yost states how much he wants to win the game. To the point he almost acknowledged her stacked himself with late inning BP types for that reason. Plus he's obviously used to that in KC.

Edited July 7, 2016 by G-Snarls

[KingKat]

Same. I actually understand why you'd want lots of them as you're generally asking each to throw one inning or even just face 1-2 batters. RP are much more used to this obviously.

 

If your objective is to win the game having a bunch of closer types makes sense.

 

If you're trying to represent the league then this seems RP heavy

 

In an interview yesterday Yost states how much he wants to win the game.

 

Top starting pitchers wouldn't necessarily be less effective in a one inning appearance than dedicated one inning guys though I'm not surprised that Yost would see it that way.

[banned]

Whoever made this decision is an idiot..Kluber is 8-8 with a 3.79 ERA..>Sanchez is 9-1 with a 2.94 ERA.....

[THANOS]

The reasoning lies in FIP, K/9, and WAR.

[Caper]

You'll get killed for sighting pitcher wins... but I think it should have been Sanchez.

[banned]

Corey Kluber is objectively better than Aaron Sanchez. Plus I don't want Sanchez throwing any extra innings in meaningless games, so I'm cool with this.

 

Not really.

[TheHurl]

The All Star game should be based on a bit more than the first half of the current season anyway.

 

Sanchez and Kluber are basically tied in the ratio trio right now. ERA=Sanch; FIP=Klube; xFIP=tie.

Kluber has way more star power.

 

He's just as if not more deserving.

 

Sanchez probably benefits more from the extra time off.

 

and that crafty Yost knows that if he pitches in the ASG, he'll likely get game three of the first series after the ASG and miss KC the next series. Crafty Yost!

[banned]

You'll get killed for sighting pitcher wins... but I think it should have been Sanchez.

 

Sanchez has been great, not just wins.

[KingKat]

You'll get killed for sighting pitcher wins...

 

You're walking a pretty thin line yourself.

[G-Snarls]

You're walking a pretty thin line yourself.

 

He should probably be cited

[Governator]

The reasoning lies in FIP, K/9, and WAR.

 

Toronto fans obviously voted hard for Estrada to be in, taking the other Jay's pitcher with an identical ERA (yes I said ERA, deal with it) to the one voted in would have been the right thing to do imo.

[G-Snarls]

He should have taken all CLE CHI and DET pitchers just to f*** them over LOL

[Abomination]

Whoever made this decision is an idiot..Kluber is 8-8 with a 3.79 ERA..>Sanchez is 9-1 with a 2.94 ERA.....

 

I don't know about anyone else, but the last thing I want is to see Sanchez pitching in additional unnecessary innings this year. He's already on pace for well over 200 innings. Giving him an extended rest over the break would make a ton of sense imo, as in skipping one of his starts on either side of it rather than adding to it. On the plus side, in spite of the innings he's only averaging 100 pitches per start.

[THANOS]

Toronto fans obviously voted hard for Estrada to be in, taking the other Jay's pitcher with an identical ERA (yes I said ERA, deal with it) to the one voted in would have been the right thing to do imo.

 

Can you even vote for pitchers? I could be wrong, but, from what I understand, you can only vote for the starting position players and the final vote selection. I agree with your premise though, it would have been the decent thing to do to replace him with Sanchez, given the numbers.

[Jonn]

You can't vote for starters. But Estrada and Sanchez should have been locks on the orginal roster. Yost decided to load up on relievers

[BigCecil]

Really could give a flying f*** about the AS game and Jays etc. If Marco has to go on the DL this is the time, and the last thing I want is Sanchez throwing any meaningless innings. It's all about winning this season. I"ll vote for Saunders because he is Canadian and having a great year and it would be his first. But im much more interested to see how Hutch looks tonight now that Floyd is gone.#FlagsFlyForever