Jays looking to trade Drew Storen

[nextyear]

What value would he have with less than 1 year of control in the same year that he sucks?

Unless you can do a la Happ with him, he has no value in my opinion.

 

Someone said Storen wasn't happy to be traded to Toronto; I am not sure if this is true or not, but in any case having an unmotivated player taking up a roster spot is bad for the team.

 

The value is having him off the team, recovering some of his contract, and freeing up a spot for a pitcher in the Blue Jays organization that will be grateful to be on the team.

[Statman]

If it was possible that Phil Kessel and Casey Janssen could have a kid, it would look like Drew Storen. Storens decline is eery to that of Francisco Cordero and Kevin Gregg when they were playing for the Jays as well.

[Jimcanuck]

his performance has more to do with the nature of the relief pitcher beast and less (or nil) to do with 'feelings'

[nextyear]

his performance has more to do with the nature of the relief pitcher beast and less (or nil) to do with 'feelings'

 

I am not sure what this means, but Storen is not helping the team and if the Blue Jays are trying to trade him then they know that he isn't good for the team now and probably won't be going forward.

[Jimcanuck]

I am not sure what this means, but Storen is not helping the team and if the Blue Jays are trying to trade him then they know that he isn't good for the team now and probably won't be going forward.

 

RP are volatile is what it means. Large performance variations month to month, year to year. Trying to attribute his performance to "he doesn't want to be here" is bogus

[nextyear]

What ever the reason for Drew Storen being ineffective, if the Blue Jays can trade him to free up a roster spot and recover some of his salary for 2016, they should do it. The Blue Jays found Biagini, so there is always a chance of finding another useful pitcher if a roster spot is open.

[Jimcanuck]

What ever the reason for Drew Storen being ineffective, if the Blue Jays can trade him to free up a roster spot and recover some of his salary for 2016, they should do it. The Blue Jays found Biagini, so there is always a chance of finding another useful pitcher if a roster spot is open.

 

Agreed, with Loup returning and Sanchez slated to be moved to the 'pen

[Deadpool]

Agreed, with Loup returning and Sanchez slated to be moved to the 'pen

 

Shultz is also off the DL now, quite possible that he provides more value than some of the relievers have (so far).

[nextyear]

Agreed, with Loup returning and Sanchez slated to be moved to the 'pen

 

I heard talk on AM 590 (The Fan) about Sanchez moving to the bullpen possibly as soon as June; apparently Sanchez is on an innings limit for the season as a starter. I think this would be a game changer for the Blue Jays - then they would have a dominate bullpen with Biagini, Sanchez and Osuna. If Cecil returns to the form he showed in the 2nd half of 2015 then the Blue Jays would be a legitimate contender.

 

The Blue Jays have Floyd and Chavez to take over Sanchez's spot. It will be a downgrade at Sanchez's starting pitching position, but with a strong bullpen that spot only needs to get them to the 5th or 6th inning.

[Jimcanuck]

I heard talk on AM 590 (The Fan) about Sanchez moving to the bullpen possibly as soon as June; apparently Sanchez is on an innings limit for the season as a starter. I think this would be a game changer for the Blue Jays - then they would have a dominate bullpen with Biagini, Sanchez and Osuna. If Cecil returns to the form he showed in the 2nd half of 2015 then the Blue Jays would be a legitimate contender.

 

The Blue Jays have Floyd and Chavez to take over Sanchez's spot. It will be a downgrade at Sanchez's starting pitching position, but with a strong bullpen that spot only needs to get them to the 5th or 6th inning.

 

I figure Sanchez is in the rotation until the AS break.... he will have amassed roughly 110 IP, with another ~to come from the bullpen in the 2nd half for 150 on the season

 

Just too bad Jays may have to add a B prospect for someone to take on Storen

[gbill2004]

Storen is probably pissed off be lost the closer gig in a contract year. Now he's sulking like a little baby.

[Jimcanuck]

Storen is probably pissed off be lost the closer gig in a contract year. Now he's sulking like a little baby.

 

Well, that's a stupid theory.

 

So he purposely sucks so he'll get an even smaller payday?

[Krylian]

Well, that's a stupid theory.

 

So he purposely sucks so he'll get an even smaller payday?

 

Agreed. But on the other hand we know there are some real morons out there in the sporting world.

[THANOS]

Well, that's a stupid theory.

 

So he purposely sucks so he'll get an even smaller payday?

 

Of course it's a silly theory but the guy proved he was a headcase with things like that in 2015, so who knows?

[nextyear]

I don't think that Storen is it intentionally underperforming but his poor results aren't helping his confidence.

[GreekFatAss]

Could we even hope to get back an arm out of options that maybe could be a mid relief guy or is even that to much to ask for?

[intentional wok]

Could we even hope to get back an arm out of options that maybe could be a mid relief guy or is even that to much to ask for?

 

Probably not. Unless the other team plans on slotting Storen into the late game mix, you'd have to think that middle relief option is more valuable than a guy who looks like a $6M mop-up pitcher.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Alanta in a package and for salary relief might... The are out of it and in next year country already!

 

You know I have a trade in the works

Stay tuned? 😃

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Ok this might require more then one move and two teams and two trades to complete this all ya'll !

 

But the monies work and in the end we add about half a mill to payroll

Provided money is not required to go either way!

 

" Can I Play with Madness"

 

Wink wink say no more! Lol

[Cyborg]

I don't think that Storen is it intentionally underperforming but his poor results aren't helping his confidence.

 

His xFIP is great. Depends on your definition of results.

[Terminator]

His xFIP is great. Depends on your definition of results.

 

He's giving up a ton of hard contact (44%) and almost no soft contact (10%).

 

I don't know how that factors in to his numbers though but he's getting hit hard.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Ok here goes! Ready or not here I come! Cyborg get ready to crunch the numbers. Thanks

 

Team one Trade one!

 

To Kc, Dickey, Thole, EE, Chavez and Storen

 

From Kc Kendry morales,

Luke Hochevar, Danny Duff and

Andrew Edwards

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Team two trade two!

 

To Atlanta Pillar, Goins,Burns,Jimenez

Santos,Cecil,loup and one of or maybe both pimp foley and Greene

 

From Atlanta nick markakis,

Eric aybar, AJ pierzynski and

Hunter Cervenka!

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

This add more then the half mill then I thought at first, sits about 2.6 mill add to payroll. Had hutch in the altlanta deal at first! Would still add him or Alford to either to get it done or money as long as it stays under 8-10 mill add to payroll ! Might even be willing to use 1-2 mill as a bonus payment to EE if he accepts the Trade!

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Lot there to Digest even for the cyborg

 

But even if we have to we can ask one or both of aybar and morales to be sent to the minors or just DFA them!

Lol

[Stangstag]

Eeeeww

[King]

Team two trade two!

 

To Atlanta Pillar, Goins,Burns,Jimenez

Santos,Cecil,loup and one of or maybe both pimp foley and Greene

 

From Atlanta nick markakis,

Eric aybar, AJ pierzynski and

Hunter Cervenka!

 

Maybe if Atlanta throws in Freeman and Swanson/Albies

[BTS]

Team two trade two!

 

To Atlanta Pillar, Goins,Burns,Jimenez

Santos,Cecil,loup and one of or maybe both pimp foley and Greene

 

From Atlanta nick markakis,

Eric aybar, AJ pierzynski and

Hunter Cervenka!

 

mods

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

New line up! ??? Might look like

 

RH Travis ( when back, soon)

RH Batz

LH Saunders

RH JD

LH SMOAK

RH Tulo

LH Markakis

RH Martin

SH Pompey

 

Starters

Stroman

Shanchez

Happ

Estrada

Hutch/ Floyd

 

Bullpen

 

Floyd/ Hutch

Luke Hochevar

Danny Duff

Biagini

Cervenka

Diamond/ Leblanc one of

Osuna

 

Fire up the Cyborg number crunching

Time buddy!!!

[jays4life19]

Team two trade two!

 

To Atlanta Pillar, Goins,Burns,Jimenez

Santos,Cecil,loup and one of or maybe both pimp foley and Greene

 

From Atlanta nick markakis,

Eric aybar, AJ pierzynski and

Hunter Cervenka!

 

Cyborg, you heard the man. Crunch those numbers on this one.