Nabru Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 ???? Inside Baseball @InsideBaseball6 2m2 minutes ago We're hearing rumors that #Reds 2B Brandon Phillips & OF Jay Bruce may be involved in a 3-way deal with the #BlueJays and #Angels. 120 followers?
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 120 followers? haha. I didn't look at that.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Send some Angel pitching to Toronto
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Hey guys hear me out here... What if Bruce is going to the ANGELS, not the Jays? That would make alot more sense... We could trade Saunders and get some kind of prospect or something, and then sign Austin Jackson.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 I'm going to bed in an hour. Hope this trade is done by then.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I thought there would be more criticism for Shapiro trying to trade for a replacement level bat who makes more money for a superior asset But this forum sees him with rose colored glasses I thought this was 10 pages of criticism and trying to figure out what he's thinking. I am only on the board a few times a week. I don't want to read your s*** so any more attempting to bait responses it's a permaban.
CrackerJack Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Could someone please explain to me why Saunders for Bruce make any sense? If the Jays win this year, Alex will be given the credit. And since Shapiro wants a little love too, he's hoping that Bruce can hit a walk off in a playoff game.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Hey guys hear me out here... What if Bruce is going to the ANGELS, not the Jays? That would make alot more sense... We could trade Saunders and get some kind of prospect or something, and then sign Austin Jackson. Saunders for prospect(s) and then sign Jackson? I'm sold. I don't trust Saunders' knee at all.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 If the Jays win this year, Alex will be given the credit. And since Shapiro wants a little love too, he's hoping that Bruce can hit a walk off in a playoff game. Makes sense. Shapiro will hold private bat flip sessions with Bruce in his basement on off days.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I thought there would be more criticism for Shapiro trying to trade for a replacement level bat who makes more money for a superior asset But this forum sees him with rose colored glasses I don't want to see you cheering when the Jays get Tyler Skaggs in that deal.
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 Maybe Joey Votto is in the deal too??
AncientDiety Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I thought there would be more criticism for Shapiro trying to trade for a replacement level bat who makes more money for a superior asset But this forum sees him with rose colored glasses This entire thread is criticism....unless there is something we don't know this trade makes zero sense.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Trop would be nice, even Skaggs.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Maybe Joey Votto is in the deal too?? No money for Jose = no Votto here
Save Dtieb Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 So Bruce/Pompey platoon in left? Would Bruce be comfortable in left since he's never played it? As long as no prospects of significant upside are going the Reds way, I'm fine with the deal. Bruce for essentially a 1 year 10 million deal when you minus out Saunders contract and option is a worthy risk.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 No money for Jose = no Votto here Joey Votto was born in Toronto though!
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 How are we going to enter a 3 teamer with CIN and LAA and not come out miles ahead? They're both inept franchises. Gibbons to Shapiro "Hi Shap. Could you to ask for the price of Billy Hamilton; he could be our ideal leadoff guy"
gbill2004 Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 Can Bruce play 1B Yes.
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Guys.. Believe it or not, there is value in having a legit 25-30 HR threat added to your line up, regardless of the weak wRC+. 26 HR & 35 doubles from the left side will add more overall value than Saunders could provide. Paying no more than $5Mil for Bruce would be an upgrade, imo. A legit power LHB batting sixth or seventh will make the line up better on several aspects. This should only be viewed as a 2016 move.
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Angels beat writer saying it's almost finished, whatever it is:
baubau Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Angels beat writer saying it's almost finished, whatever it is: I believe "It" would be a trade.
Laika Community Moderator Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Guys.. Believe it or not, there is value in having a legit 25-30 HR threat added to your line up, regardless of the weak wRC+. 26 HR & 35 doubles from the left side will add more overall value than Saunders could provide. Paying no more than $5Mil for Bruce would be an upgrade, imo. A legit power LHB batting sixth or seventh will make the line up better on several aspects. This should only be viewed as a 2016 move. You'll need to do a better job than that of explaining the value the Bruce would provide that isn't captured by WAR.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 Meh if it's just Saunders, then I think it's a push
crazy47larry Verified Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 This entire thread is criticism....unless there is something we don't know this trade makes zero sense. not nearly as much skepticism as before. seriously read back in this thread and the other bruce one. its amazing how much things can change. its kind of funny. 4 STAGES OF JAY BRUCE TRADE GRIEF 1) why the hell would the jays trade for bruce? hes expensive and mediocre. 2) hmmm maybe something us really wrong with saunders. jays must know something. 3) u know bruce isnt THAT bad. seems like hes been the same guy skills wise most years but his luck has fluctuated. 4) i bet shapiro is making the right call here. he knows what hes doing.
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I believe "It" would be a trade. http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/0a/0a79bf6cf9b484b49b802f7e7dfb86bd825132f8793439685aaaa5974ea11d4b.jpg
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 You'll need to do a better job than that of explaining the value the Bruce would provide that isn't captured by WAR. That's why I started off by saying "believe it or not". LOL..
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