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[Jimcanuck]

Why you mad at me son?

 

I'm not. Stop being so sensitive.

[Spanky99]

I'm not. Stop being so sensitive.

 

Hmmm...

[connorp]

Fantrax, this is most recent.

 

https://www.fantrax.com/news/mlb/fantasy-columns/8kwnaq71k5mc82oj

 

To hell with the stats, everyone remains high on Royce Lewis

[connorp]

I’ll side w/Jim on Bell Biggio debate. It’s pretty even but if your team is already built for success now, I’d lean to Bell for sure. If it’s not, Biggio. I think there’s a little bit of homerism that’s clouding the pic.

[Carlos Danger]

I’ll side w/Jim on Bell Biggio debate. It’s pretty even but if your team is already built for success now, I’d lean to Bell for sure. If it’s not, Biggio. I think there’s a little bit of homerism that’s clouding the pic.

 

I think we were all saying that Biggio for Bell might be somewhat fair. Not that I would do it. The only point of contention is the Biggio + for Bell...

 

IMO for what it is worth, win now, win in 5 yrs, I am taking Biggio. Of course I only play a Fantasy baseball player on TV so what do I know. I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express though, I thought it helped before trades...

[Carlos Danger]

So, are we still planning our draft sometime shortly after July 15th?

[BTS]

So, are we still planning our draft sometime shortly after July 15th?

 

Was planning to post about this today. We usually start our draft after the signing deadline. This year's signing deadline is August 1st. Are there any objections to an August 2nd start to the MiLB draft?

[Carlos Danger]

Was planning to post about this today. We usually start our draft after the signing deadline. This year's signing deadline is August 1st. Are there any objections to an August 2nd start to the MiLB draft?

 

Thanks for your quick response. My only concern is that depending when/if the MLB season starts, what the rules are on extra year/Super 2 etc... I have some concerns about my MILB roster space if kept the way it is..

 

Example, I have a number of players I was almost positive would be up on MLB rosters by May/June, thereby opening up spots on my MILB roster for drafted players. How will we address that issue with relation to what is going on in the real MLB situation?

 

Would you be able to grant a MILB roster expansion exemption for this year due to the unknown situation?

 

Thanks

[BTS]

Thanks for your quick response. My only concern is that depending when/if the MLB season starts, what the rules are on extra year/Super 2 etc... I have some concerns about my MILB roster space if kept the way it is..

 

Example, I have a number of players I was almost positive would be up on MLB rosters by May/June, thereby opening up spots on my MILB roster for drafted players. How will we address that issue with relation to what is going on in the real MLB situation?

 

Would you be able to grant a MILB roster expansion exemption for this year due to the unknown situation?

 

Thanks

 

There had been talk of expanding MiLB rosters to 15 (and MLB rosters to 26) in advance of the February 2021 draft, when the league transforms into a full dynasty. Both of these changes would have required a league vote. This would have had the added benefit of adding depth to the 2021 draft, which will be pretty shallow given that its only ~6 months after the upcoming draft.

 

If other owners share your concerns, maybe we can vote on using the 2020 draft to expand MiLB rosters, instead of waiting for 2021.

 

Input required from other owners.

[Dr. Dinger]

Covid and widespread racial unrest have made me totally forget that Noah Syndergaard TJS torpedoed me in both dynasty leagues.

[BTS]

Covid and widespread racial unrest have made me totally forget that Noah Syndergaard TJS torpedoed me in both dynasty leagues.

 

Surprise!

[The Cats Ass]

There had been talk of expanding MiLB rosters to 15 (and MLB rosters to 26) in advance of the February 2021 draft, when the league transforms into a full dynasty. Both of these changes would have required a league vote. This would have had the added benefit of adding depth to the 2021 draft, which will be pretty shallow given that its only ~6 months after the upcoming draft.

 

If other owners share your concerns, maybe we can vote on using the 2020 draft to expand MiLB rosters, instead of waiting for 2021.

 

Input required from other owners.

 

I'd vote to expand rosters just ahead of the 2021 draft. I see no reason to make the changes now.

 

For something like CD's concern, he could still promote the players he was thinking of. Where we changed up the minor eligibility rule there's nothing in place to keep him from sending players back and forth.

[BTS]

Anyone else have input? I'll wait a few days and then likely put it to a poll.

[Jimcanuck]

The rules for 2020 have been in place for a while now, and it is late to make a rule change with immediate impact. Some owners are barely paying attention.

 

Standard operating procedure is for teams to make MiLB cuts prior to the draft, and / or promote from the MiLB roster, and / or trade surplus assets. The only real difference this year is the lack of performance data on which to make these decisions. In any event, CD appears to have enough borderline MLB and MiLB assets to make adjustments.

 

Like TCA I see no reason to make a change.

[BTS]

The rules for 2020 have been in place for a while now, and it is late to make a rule change with immediate impact. Some owners are barely paying attention.

 

Standard operating procedure is for teams to make MiLB cuts prior to the draft, and / or promote from the MiLB roster, and / or trade surplus assets. The only real difference this year is the lack of performance data on which to make these decisions. In any event, CD appears to have enough borderline MLB and MiLB assets to make adjustments.

 

Like TCA I see no reason to make a change.

 

I tend to agree, but I also see his point that the period between the cut and the MiLB draft has typically been used as an evaluation period that didn't exist this year.

[Spanky99]

I tend to agree, but I also see his point that the period between the cut and the MiLB draft has typically been used as an evaluation period that didn't exist this year.

 

Pro's and Cons for sure, f***ing covid season. Maybe we needn't cut spects until this coming February? At least teams will have interest in moving assets then. Assuming there's even a season.

[Jimcanuck]

Pro's and Cons for sure, f***ing covid season. Maybe we needn't cut spects until this coming February? At least teams will have interest in moving assets then. Assuming there's even a season.

 

Hmmm..... just have one NPD in January based on 2019 season results. Which means the following NPD would be January 2022, based on 2021 season results.

 

In effect, the 2020 covid stupid season does not determine any draft order.

[L54]

Can't CD just move his players to his roster to open up space in MiLB roster? I don't really think we need to expand rosters at this point, like TCA said half the league probably isn't even paying attention.

[L54]

Jim said it* but its still true

[The Cats Ass]

Hmmm..... just have one NPD in January based on 2019 season results. Which means the following NPD would be January 2022, based on 2021 season results.

 

In effect, the 2020 covid stupid season does not determine any draft order.

 

I’d rather do this than increase MiLB roster for this June’s draft. 2020 picks used for a NPD/waiver 2021 draft this winter/spring. 2021 picks can be used for 2022.

 

If MiLB roster increase goes to a poll, this should also be a poll.

[BTS]

Rolling the August and February drafts into one creates a problem in Fantrax. We need to use the 2020 and 2021 picks before the 2021 season to avoid tracking them on the spreadsheet again.

[Carlos Danger]

I just don't see what the negative is to any player in the league if we expand the rosters a little early, if we were planning to do it anyway?

 

It does not affect anyone's draft, draft position etc. I am not talking about timing of drafts or anything. I am just saying, if we are going to expand to 26/14 in 2021 why not do it now? If the season starts MLB will be at 26 man rosters, why should we be behind.

 

This is all in the context that since there is no season, I have no idea if a team is planning to platoon some players, send them to MILB, where a guy is going to start the season. In normal situations, when you are cutting MLB players to free up space to move MILB players up, which has been suggested, you at least have an idea if a guy on your MLB roster is getting playing time, is a regular or platoon, was a September wonder and was sent down end of May.

 

Yes, technically I can move a player from the MILB roster to MLB. However, my understanding is once there, you can't move back down?

 

Also, MLB teams didn't even make final cuts prior to the COVID stop. I have no idea when I have to make MLB cuts to players I used capital to obtain or high waiver draft picks if they are even going to be on the MLB roster... This is all information I would have in a normal season.

 

Again, not asking for anything that affects draft picks or draft timing.

 

This move would benefit everyone equally, regardless of standings/draft pick position etc.. All we would be doing is bumping up something we plan on doing anyway, due to the COVID situation.

 

26/14... vs 25/12.... If I understand correctly..

 

Thanks

[Spanky99]

I just don't see what the negative is to any player in the league if we expand the rosters a little early, if we were planning to do it anyway?

 

It does not affect anyone's draft, draft position etc. I am not talking about timing of drafts or anything. I am just saying, if we are going to expand to 26/14 in 2021 why not do it now? If the season starts MLB will be at 26 man rosters, why should we be behind.

 

This is all in the context that since there is no season, I have no idea if a team is planning to platoon some players, send them to MILB, where a guy is going to start the season. In normal situations, when you are cutting MLB players to free up space to move MILB players up, which has been suggested, you at least have an idea if a guy on your MLB roster is getting playing time, is a regular or platoon, was a September wonder and was sent down end of May.

 

Yes, technically I can move a player from the MILB roster to MLB. However, my understanding is once there, you can't move back down?

 

Also, MLB teams didn't even make final cuts prior to the COVID stop. I have no idea when I have to make MLB cuts to players I used capital to obtain or high waiver draft picks if they are even going to be on the MLB roster... This is all information I would have in a normal season.

 

Again, not asking for anything that affects draft picks or draft timing.

 

This move would benefit everyone equally, regardless of standings/draft pick position etc.. All we would be doing is bumping up something we plan on doing anyway, due to the COVID situation.

 

26/14... vs 25/12.... If I understand correctly..

 

Thanks

 

26/15... just saying.

[The Cats Ass]

I just don't see what the negative is to any player in the league if we expand the rosters a little early, if we were planning to do it anyway?

 

It does not affect anyone's draft, draft position etc. I am not talking about timing of drafts or anything. I am just saying, if we are going to expand to 26/14 in 2021 why not do it now? If the season starts MLB will be at 26 man rosters, why should we be behind.

 

This is all in the context that since there is no season, I have no idea if a team is planning to platoon some players, send them to MILB, where a guy is going to start the season. In normal situations, when you are cutting MLB players to free up space to move MILB players up, which has been suggested, you at least have an idea if a guy on your MLB roster is getting playing time, is a regular or platoon, was a September wonder and was sent down end of May.

 

Yes, technically I can move a player from the MILB roster to MLB. However, my understanding is once there, you can't move back down?

 

Also, MLB teams didn't even make final cuts prior to the COVID stop. I have no idea when I have to make MLB cuts to players I used capital to obtain or high waiver draft picks if they are even going to be on the MLB roster... This is all information I would have in a normal season.

 

Again, not asking for anything that affects draft picks or draft timing.

 

This move would benefit everyone equally, regardless of standings/draft pick position etc.. All we would be doing is bumping up something we plan on doing anyway, due to the COVID situation.

 

26/14... vs 25/12.... If I understand correctly..

 

Thanks

 

Do you know how much more s***** the 2021 draft will be if we expand now? The idea I believe was to expand before the 2021 NPD so that it slightly balanced out the value of those picks.

 

You are allowed to move players back down if you want.

[BTS]

A few comments on recent posts:

 

- I'll reiterate that I don't see eliminating a draft as a viable option. 2020 picks (on the spreadsheet) and 2021 picks (in Fantrax) have already been assigned and traded, and both sets need to be used before the 2021 season starts in Fantrax or we'll be stuck tracking everything on the sheet in perpetuity, which I absolutely don't want to do.

 

- The plan was to vote on expanding to 26/15 from 25/12 after the 2020 season, and use the February 2021 draft to do it. I'm very confident that the vote would have passed, but it wasn't set in stone that we were changing.

 

- I don't think we should to expand to 26-man MLB rosters until 2021. Teams passed on waiver picks with the 25-man roster in place for 2020. CD's issue would be sufficiently addressed with an expansion of farm size alone.

 

- CD - you can move players down after promoting them if they have a green flag in Fantrax (ie. they're not on an MLB roster in real life)

 

So to summarize, I'm planning on two polls in the next couple of weeks:

 

1. Are you in favour of expanding MiLB rosters from 12 to 15 before the start of the August 2nd MiLB draft? Note that if this vote does not pass, there will be a second vote on MiLB roster expansion after the conclusion of the 2020 MLB season.

 

The second poll will happen once the first poll is decided, and the goal would be to retain talent for the 2021 NPD (which would also be used to expand MLB rosters from 25 to 26):

 

2. Are you in favour of restricting the August 2nd MiLB draft only to players either a) affiliated with an MLB team prior to July 1st, 2020 or selected in the 2020 MLB draft? This rule would be intended to push the J2 class to the February NPD

 

Does everyone think this is a mostly fair and reasonable way to proceed?

Edited June 9, 2020 by BTS

[Carlos Danger]

A few comments on recent posts:

 

- I'll reiterate that I don't see eliminating a draft as a viable option. 2020 picks (on the spreadsheet) and 2021 picks (in Fantrax) have already been assigned and traded, and both sets need to be used before the 2021 season starts in Fantrax or we'll be stuck tracking everything on the sheet in perpetuity, which I absolutely don't want to do.

 

- The plan was to vote on expanding to 26/15 from 25/12 after the 2020 season, and use the February 2021 draft to do it. I'm very confident that the vote would have passed, but it wasn't set in stone that we were changing.

 

- I don't think we should to expand to 26-man MLB rosters until 2021. Teams passed on waiver picks with the 25-man roster in place for 2020. CD's issue would be sufficiently addressed with an expansion of farm size alone.

 

- CD - you can move players down after promoting them if they have a green flag in Fantrax (ie. they're not on an MLB roster in real life)

 

So to summarize, I'm planning on two polls in the next couple of weeks:

 

1. Are you in favour of expanding MiLB rosters from 12 to 15 before the start of the August 2nd MiLB draft. Note that if this vote does not pass, there will be a second vote on MiLB roster expansion after the conclusion of the 2020 MLB season.

 

The second poll will happen once the first poll is decided, and the goal would be to retain talent for the 2021 NPD (which would also be used to expand MLB rosters from 25 to 26):

 

2. Are you in favour of restricting the August 2nd MiLB draft only to players either a) affiliated with an MLB team prior to July 1st, 2020 or selected in the 2020 MLB draft? This rule would be intended to push the J2 class to the February NPD

 

Does everyone think this is a mostly fair and reasonable way to proceed?

 

Thanks for laying it out BTS.

 

I understand and now agree with why no 26 man this season.

 

Would still like to advocate for expansion to 15 MILB players prior to this year's draft.

 

I apologize for my ignorance, can someone explain to me TCA's point about expansion of MILB guys now making the 2021 draft sucky? I am lost/or don't understand that? Is he talking about the waiver draft or MILB draft?

 

Thanks!

[BTS]

Thanks for laying it out BTS.

 

I understand and now agree with why no 26 man this season.

 

Would still like to advocate for expansion to 15 MILB players prior to this year's draft.

 

I apologize for my ignorance, can someone explain to me TCA's point about expansion of MILB guys now making the 2021 draft sucky? I am lost/or don't understand that? Is he talking about the waiver draft or MILB draft?

 

Thanks!

 

There's no more waiver draft now that we're moving to full dynasty, because we never have to trim our rosters. We're moving to a single New Player Draft every February that will replace the waiver draft and midseason prospect draft and be used to fill our farms and distribute international MLB signings (like Tsutsugo, Kikuchi, Darvish back in the day etc...).

 

The initial NPD in February of 2021 is going to be more shallow than subsequent NPDs because we're going to pick through eligible players in our final midseason prospect draft scheduled to begin August 2nd. TCA is concerned that expansion of farms now will lead to more players being picked in the August draft, further hindering the depth of the NPD in February.

 

I've proposed holding J2 players out of the August draft (I believe Spanky recommended this initially several months ago) to add meat to the NPD in February.

[Carlos Danger]

There's no more waiver draft now that we're moving to full dynasty, because we never have to trim our rosters. We're moving to a single New Player Draft every February that will replace the waiver draft and midseason prospect draft and be used to fill our farms and distribute international MLB signings (like Tsutsugo, Kikuchi, Darvish back in the day etc...).

 

The initial NPD in February of 2021 is going to be more shallow than subsequent NPDs because we're going to pick through eligible players in our final midseason prospect draft scheduled to begin August 2nd. TCA is concerned that expansion of farms now will lead to more players being picked in the August draft, further hindering the depth of the NPD in February.

 

I've proposed holding J2 players out of the August draft (I believe Spanky recommended this initially several months ago) to add meat to the NPD in February.

 

Understood, thanks, and agree with your proposal in the last line.

 

Thanks!!

[BTS]

The poll on MiLB roster expansion is up on Fantrax. Please take the time to vote.

[Jimcanuck]

Great job on the rules update posted in Fantrax. A much simpler set of rules.

 

5 have voted so far in the poll. Get your vote in.