Offseason Roster Thread

[WONDERBAT]

Why would we want Morneau?

 

If healthy he seems like a significant upgrade over Smoak and Cola and an excellent Left handed bat to go in our righty dominant lineup.

[Angrioter]

If healthy he seems like a significant upgrade over Smoak and Cola and an excellent Left handed bat to go in our righty dominant lineup.

 

He's done bro. Smoak is better option right now (Healthy + pop + Defense)

[fireballW]

He's done bro. Smoak is better option right now (Healthy + pop + Defense)

 

Have heard this before and look into the stats but still disagree. Im even a pretty big Smoak fan but I think Morneau at 1B would only make this team that much more awesome.

[G-Snarls]

Looked up Morneau. Surprised to find he's been an above average hitter again with wRC+ of 122 and 107 last 2 seasons in Colorado. Good for him. Bad defense though. Don't see how he would fit. Edited March 15, 2016 by G-Snarls

[closetjaysfan]

3 Jays make mlb.com's top 10 defensive players to watch.

 

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/167286136/10-mlb-players-worth-watching-on-defense

 

Of note: Hechavarria also makes the list.

[flafson]

Looked up Morneau. Surprised to find he's been an above average hitter again with wRC+ of 122 and 107 last 2 season in Colorado. Good for him. Bad defense though. Don't see how he would fit.

 

Probably the injury bug is what hurt his value the most.

[LGBJ29]

If Donaldson misses time I'd probably use Goins at 3B and Barney at 2nd. Crazy? I suspect Goins has the reflexes and arm for 3rd.

 

If its late May and beyond Travis should be back

[G-Snarls]

Gotta say... The opening day roster for 2016 looks significantly better to me than opening day 2015.

 

Tulo instead of Reyes

Stroman in effect instead of on DL

Saunders in better shape to play

Better starting rotation depth

Better deeper bullpen

 

Only loss is Travis, and Goins has proven to be a pretty decent backup at 2B

 

I'm pretty excited about our chances this year. I'm gonna not sweat over 2017 and just enjoy it. This is a really good team.

[Angrioter]

Gotta say... The opening day roster for 2016 looks significantly better to me than opening day 2015.

 

Tulo instead of Reyes

Stroman in effect instead of on DL

Saunders in better shape to play

Better starting rotation depth

Better deeper bullpen

 

Only loss is Travis, and Goins has proven to be a pretty decent backup at 2B

 

I'm pretty excited about our chances this year. I'm gonna not sweat over 2017 and just enjoy it. This is a really good team.

 

Rays and Red Sox are better now.

[G-Snarls]

Rays and Red Sox are better now.

 

That's true too

 

Orioles worse. Yankees loaded with question marks everywhere outside the bullpen. Gonna be an exciting year in the AL East.

[ValiantJaysFan]

Rays and Red Sox are better now.

 

Red Sox have a lot of question marks in their lineup though. Better team than last year but mainly due to their improved bullpen and Price. Sandoval showed up to camp looking like a black Staypuff Marshmallow though so, there's that.

[TBJ12]

Rays and Red Sox are better now.

 

The Rays and Red Sox may be better, but are they better than the Blue Jays? The homer in me believes the Jays will walk right over the the ALE.

[Governator]

The Rays and Red Sox may be better, but are they better than the Blue Jays? The homer in me believes the Jays will walk right over the the ALE.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings#AL-E

 

Apparently Boston is and we're a wild card team.

[G-Snarls]

http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings#AL-E

 

Apparently Boston is and we're a wild card team.

 

This is the same projection that has the Royals dead last. Ridiculous.

[ValiantJaysFan]

http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings#AL-E

 

Apparently Boston is and we're a wild card team.

 

I don't buy those numbers. Jays are going to be better than just 3 games over .500. I would really feel a lot better with another #2 or #3 starter though. Don't have a good feeling about this rotation.

[ValiantJaysFan]

This is the same projection that has the Royals dead last. Ridiculous.

 

Also projects Jays RDif to be 31 when it was 221 last year with the same lineup (for only 2.5 months).

[Governator]

I don't buy those numbers. Jays are going to be better than just 3 games over .500. I would really feel a lot better with another #2 or #3 starter though. Don't have a good feeling about this rotation.

 

You can never buy those numbers, they are always played safe. Only Cubs & Dodgers are projected to break 90 wins lol.

[G-Snarls]

I don't buy those numbers. Jays are going to be better than just 3 games over .500. I would really feel a lot better with another #2 or #3 starter though. Don't have a good feeling about this rotation.

 

Has anyone made the season win prediction thread yet?

[burlingtonbandit]

I think a better indicator for the Jays would be Vegas who has them at around 87 wins. Those FG projections really underrate the Blue Jays defense. Also don't take into account Dickey and Estrada beating out their FIP.

 

As well Gavin Floyd isn't even on the team apparently..

[TBJ12]

http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings#AL-E

 

Apparently Boston is and we're a wild card team.

 

Just because a team is projected to be better doesn't mean they are. Didn't Fangraphs project the Sox to win the ALE in 2015 as well?

[Boxcar]

This is the same projection that has the Royals dead last. Ridiculous.

 

I think the Jays have more upside in their projections than most other teams (Stroman, JD, Tulo, Saunders, Pillar, Estrada, Happ) but we're not walking all over Boston.

[bones10]

I think the Jays have more upside in their projections than most other teams (Stroman, JD, Tulo, Saunders, Pillar, Estrada, Happ) but we're not walking all over Boston.

 

Everyone forgetting the Yankees too, that bullpen is really going to cut down games; which is huge considering their starting staff.

[Olerud363]

You can never buy those numbers, they are always played safe. Only Cubs & Dodgers are projected to break 90 wins lol.

 

I don't think they play it safe... There are just rarely teams that are True 95 win teams. The projections are more like long term averages.

 

- Jays have been projected for about 85 the last 3 years.

- their actual performance was 78, 84, 93

 

They hit the average exactly. The variation was pretty typical

[jaysfan2014]

Just because a team is projected to be better doesn't mean they are. Didn't Fangraphs project the Sox to win the ALE in 2015 as well?

 

Yes they did, because of HanRam and Sandoval and those 5 "aces"--what a bust! There's so much uncertainty with Boston.. Ed-Rod's out for most of April, and their rotation is still full of questions after Price. In addition, Owens hasn't impressed this spring, meaning Roenis Elias or long-man Steven Wright will likely get the 5th spot (Johnson isn't MLB ready), which would put Matt Barnes as the long man, if Wright gets the 5th spot.

 

Actually, Elias hasn't impressed either..

Edited March 18, 2016 by jaysfan2014

[G-Snarls]

 

[HERPDERP]

saw that Marcus Stroman was trending and thought something bad happened ;[

[BTS]

Stroman vs. Archer should be fun.

[G-Snarls]

saw that Marcus Stroman was trending and thought something bad happened ;[

 

 

LOL. I got a pop up notification from Sportsnet with his name in it and I panicked until I loaded the story. Phew.

[Rusty_Savage]

Remember when that one poster said Stroman wasn't a lock to make the team.....

[Sammy225]

Stroman vs. Archer should be fun.

 

So should Stroman Vs. Price