Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

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Alex Kirilloff

TwinsOF

Notes:

ETA: 2021

Final 2019 Ranking: 20

Tools: Hit: 60 | Power: 55 | Run: 45 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 50

2019 Average Exit Velo: 91

 

Skinny: A wrist injury put a damper on Kirilloff’s season last year, but the sweet-swinging lefty still shows impressive feel to hit with room to grow into power. Whether he sticks in right field or moves to first base, he should have enough bat to start.

 

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Joey Bart

GiantsC

Notes:

ETA: 2021

Final 2019 Ranking: 15

Tools: Hit: 50 | Power: 60 | Run: 40 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 60

2019 Average Exit Velo: 89

 

Skinny: Bart suffered a fractured hand when he was hit by a pitch early last season, then suffered another one when he got hit on the hand in the Arizona Fall League. In between injuries, Bart showed the easy power and promising defense that made him the No. 2 overall pick in 2018 and finished at Double-A Richmond despite all the missed time. If he can stay healthy, he’ll take over as the Giants everyday catcher soon.

 

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Michael Kopech

White SoxRHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 28

Tools: Fastball: 80 | Curveball: 50 | Slider: 60 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 50

2019 Average Fastball Velo: —

 

Skinny: After missing all of last year recovering from Tommy John surgery, the flamethrowing Kopech needs to show his electric stuff has come back. If it has, he gives the White Sox a potential top of the rotation righthander to pair with Lucas Giolito.

 

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Tarik Skubal

TigersLHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 77

Tools: Fastball: 60 | Curveball: 55 | Slider: 60 | Changeup: 55 | Control: 50

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 93

 

Skinny: The biggest breakout prospect of last season, Skubal jumped three levels, finished third in the minors with 179 strikeouts and struck out an eye-popping 17.4 batters per nine innings at Double-A. His main challenge for 2020: proving it wasn’t a fluke.

 

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Grayson Rodriguez

OriolesRHP

Notes:

ETA: 2022

Final 2019 Ranking: 45

Tools: Fastball: 70 | Curveball: 60 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 55 | Control: 60

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 93

 

Skinny: The latest big, hard-throwing Texas righthander, Rodriguez matches a dynamite 93-98 mph fastball with a stunning ability to command it. As his secondaries develop, he has a chance to give the Orioles a true No. 1 starter and an anchor of their rebuild.

 

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Drew Waters

BravesOF

Notes:

ETA: 2021

Final 2019 Ranking: 27

Tools: Hit: 55 | Power: 60 | Run: 60 | Fielding: 60 | Arm: 55

2019 Average Exit Velo: 89

 

Skinny: The reigning Southern League MVP reached Triple-A and made Team USA’s Olympic qualifying team last year, all at 20 years old. He has plate coverage issues and swings and misses worryingly often, but Waters’ ability to drive the ball when he connects gives him a chance to be an extra-base machine.

 

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Brailyn Marquez

CubsLHP

Notes:

ETA: 2022

Final 2019 Ranking: 92

Tools: Fastball: 80 | Slider: 60 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 50

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 97

 

Skinny: The big, hard-throwing lefty became the talk of the lower levels last year with his 100-mph fastball and rapidly improving command. As his secondaries and fitness improve, Marquez has a chance to be the Cubs’ best homegrown pitcher since Carlos Zambrano.

 

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Jasson Dominguez

YankeesOF

Notes:

ETA: 2024

Final 2019 Ranking: Unranked

Tools: Hit: 60 | Power: 70 | Run: 70 | Fielding: 60 | Arm: 60

2019 Average Exit Velo: —

 

Skinny: The Yankees gave Dominguez $5.1 million as the top player in last year’s international class. His combination of elite tools, athleticism and performance have him primed to follow the path of Ronald Acuna, Juan Soto and other international stars who raced to the majors by the time they were 20.

 

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Daniel Lynch

RoyalsLHP

Notes:

ETA: 2021

Final 2019 Ranking: 66

Tools: Fastball: 60 | Curveball: 50 | Slider: 60 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 55

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 94

 

Skinny: Lynch maintained his post-draft velocity spike and used it to dominate low-level hitters in his full-season debut. Now he’ll test his 92-97 mph, high-spin fastball and biting slider against upper-level competition in 2020.

 

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Nico Hoerner

CubsOF

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 39

Tools: Hit: 60 | Power: 50 | Run: 55 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 50

2019 Average Exit Velo: 88

 

Skinny: Hoerner missed two months with a wrist fracture and still reached the majors in his first full season, taking over as the Cubs everyday shortstop in September. With advanced hitting ability and exceptional feel for the game, Hoerner is the next in line of Cubs homegrown, productive position players.

[TheHurl]

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A.J. Puk

AthleticsLHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 24

Tools: Fastball: 70 | Slider: 70 | Changeup: 50| Control: 50

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 97

 

Skinny: Puk returned from Tommy John surgery and made his major league debut in the A’s bullpen last year. With his high-octane stuff still intact, Puk has a chance to climb to the front of the A’s rotation as soon as this year.

 

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CJ Abrams

PadresSS

Notes:

ETA: 2023

Final 2019 Ranking: 40

Tools: Hit: 70 | Power: 55 | Run: 70 | Fielding: 60 | Arm: 55

2019 Average Exit Velo: 90

 

Skinny: The sixth overall pick in the draft hit .401 in the Rookie-level Arizona league in a debut for the ages. With excellent contact skills, elite speed and room to grow into power, Abrams gives the Padres another prospect with enormous upside.

 

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Brendan Rodgers

RockiesSS/2B

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 12

Tools: Hit: 60 | Power: 55 | Run: 50 | Fielding: 55 | Arm: 60

2019 Average Exit Velo: 90

 

Skinny: Rodgers’ major league debut was cut short by a torn labrum last year. As long as he is fully recovered from surgery, his supreme bat-to-ball skills will get him in the Rockies’ lineup sooner rather than later.

 

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Bobby Witt Jr.

RoyalsSS

Notes:

ETA: 2023

Final 2019 Ranking: 22

Tools: Hit: 55 | Power: 60 | Run: 60 | Fielding: 70 | Arm: 60

2019 Average Exit Velo: 93

 

Skinny: The draft’s second overall pick delivered a middling stat line in his pro debut last year, but his 93 mph average exit velocity and immense athleticism gave glimpses of his star potential.

 

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Forrest Whitley

AstrosRHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 13

Tools: Fastball: 60 | Curveball: 60 | Slider: 60 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 40

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 95

 

Skinny: Whitley had a season to forget after the Astros tinkered with his delivery and it ended up costing him his command and control. He got back on track somewhat in the Arizona Fall League, and now he’ll try to show he’s still the top prospect everyone loved just a year ago.

 

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Royce Lewis

TwinsSS

Notes:

ETA: 2021

Final 2019 Ranking: 21

Tools: Hit: 45 | Power: 60 | Run: 60 | Fielding: 55 | Arm: 55

2019 Average Exit Velo: 91

 

Skinny: No one has ever questioned Lewis’ athleticism, but longstanding concerns about his hitting ability came to the forefront in 2019. He showed what he is capable of when his swing is mechanically sound with an MVP turn in the Arizona Fall League, and now it’s a matter of keeping it up.

 

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Spencer Howard

PhilliesRHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 55

Tools: Fastball: 70 | Curveball: 55 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 55 | Control: 55

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 94

 

Skinny: With a triple-digit fastball, a swing-and-miss curveball and the ability to work the edges of the strike zone, Howard flashes front of the rotation potential and will move as fast as his health allows. He was limited to 71 innings last year by shoulder soreness.

 

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Alec Bohm

Phillies3B

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 32

Tools: Hit: 55 | Power: 55 | Run: 40 | Field: 45 | Arm: 50

2019 Average Exit Velo: 91

 

Skinny: Bohm jumped three levels to Double-A in his first full season, then earned the starting third base job on Team USA’s Olympic qualifying team. Even with questions about whether he’ll have to move to first base, Bohm has the feel to hit and plus power to hit in the middle of the Phillies’ order, and soon.

 

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Jordan Groshans

Blue JaysSS

Notes:

ETA: 2022

Final 2019 Ranking: 37

Tools: Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 50 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 60

2019 Average Exit Velo: 89

 

Skinny: A foot injury ended Groshans’ season after 23 games last year, but he’s expected to be ready for the start of spring training. A gifted hitter with growing power, expect Groshans to rise quickly if he stays healthy.

 

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Andrew Vaughn

White Sox1B

Notes:

ETA: 2022

Final 2019 Ranking: 25

Tools: Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 30 | Fielding: 40 | Arm: 50

2019 Average Exit Velo: 90

 

Skinny: The No. 3 overall pick in the draft is on the shorter, stouter side, but his thunderous bat makes up for whatever he lacks in physique. After reaching high Class A in his pro debut and excelling for Team USA’s Olympic qualifying team, he may start in Double-A and has a chance to hit his way to the majors in his first full season.

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Jarred Kelenic

MarinersOF

Notes:

ETA: 2022

Final 2019 Ranking: 23

Tools: Hit: 70 | Power: 60 | Run: 55 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 60

2019 Average Exit Velo: 90

 

Skinny: Kelenic’s advanced feel for the game helped him fly through the lower levels of the minors. After just 46 games for high Class A Modesto, Kelenic was promoted to Double-A Arkansas for 21 games, where he managed to hold his own as the youngest player in the league. After his 20-20 campaign, Kelenic made a brief appearance in the Arizona Fall League but was shut down due to back soreness.

 

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Cristian Pache

BravesOF

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 11

Tools: Hit: 45 | Power: 60 | Run: 70 | Fielding: 70 | Arm: 70

2019 Average Exit Velo: 88

 

Skinny: Pache’s hit tool and power trended positively in the upper minors this year. He hit a career-high 11 homers for Double-A Mississippi before receiving a promotion to Triple-A Gwinnett to finish out the season. Pache’s range in center and plus arm make him an impact defender. That, coupled with his improving feel to hit, should make Pache a key cog for Atlanta come 2020.

 

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Casey Mize

TigersRHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 8

Tools: Fastball: 60 | Cutter: 55 | Slider: 60 | Splitter: 70 | Control: 60

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 93

 

Skinny: Mize continued his domination of the minors in 2019, reaching Double-A Erie with relative ease thanks to his plus stuff and command. He tossed a no-hitter against Double-A Altoona in his first stint in the upper minors. Mize was removed from his start on June 13 due to shoulder soreness which in turn caused him to miss a month on the injured list. He wasn’t nearly as effective upon his return and was shut down in late August. If Mize proves a clean bill of health, his profile remains as a frontline arm who can impact the club in late 2020.

 

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Brendan McKay

RaysLHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 10

Tools: Fastball: 60 | Curveball: 50 | Slider: 50 | Cutter: 60 | Control: 60

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 93

 

Skinny: McKay showed off his advanced feel for pitching and his plus control, issuing just 18 free passes across 73.2 innings for Double-A Montgomery and Triple-A Durham. He made his big league debut on June 29, struggling to the tune of a 5.14 ERA in 13 games during three different stints with the ball club. McKay’s natural strike-throwing ability, coupled with his four-pitch mix, should get him plenty of starts in the middle of Tampa’s rotation.

 

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Carter Kieboom

NationalsSS/2B

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 14

Tools: Hit: 60 | Power: 50 | Speed: 45 | Field: 50 | Arm: 55

2019 Average Exit Velo: 92

 

Skinny: Kieboom opened the season at Triple-A Fresno after performing well at high Class A and Double-A the previous season. He made his big league debut in April, but struggled to the tune of a .128/.209/.282 clip before being optioned back to Triple-A on May 7. He played 21 games for Salt River in the Arizona Fall League, where he hit a robust .295/.427/.372. Kieboom makes loud contact and his plus power should make him a weapon at the top or in the middle of Washington’s lineup. Kieboom also has defensive value, although his range and arm are best suited for second base long term.

 

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Sixto Sanchez

MarlinsRHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 19

Tools: Fastball: 70 | Changeup: 60 | Slider: 60 | Control: 60

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 96

 

Skinny: Sanchez was the top-ranked pitching prospect in the Southern League, posting a 2.53 ERA with 97 strikeouts alongside 19 walks in 103 frames. He has three plus pitches and advanced control, which should help him debut for Miami in 2020.

 

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Matt Manning

TigersRHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 18

Tools: Fastball: 60 | Curveball: 60 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 55

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 94

 

Skinny: Manning has continued to cement his position as one of the game's elite pitching prospects. The Eastern League pitcher of the year fanned 148 batters thanks in part to a step forward with his changeup, which now projects as plus. Manning should get starts for the rebuilding Tigers this coming season.

 

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Luis Patino

PadresRHP

Notes:

ETA: 2021

Final 2019 Ranking: 29

Tools: Fastball: 70 | Curveball: 50 | Slider: 60 | Changeup: 55 | Control: 55

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 95

 

Skinny: Patino was selected to the Futures Game and worked his way from high Class A Lake Elsinore to Double-A Amarillo where he finished out the season. His swing-and-miss arsenal as well as his feel to fill up the strike zone make it likely that he gets a shot to pitch in San Diego at the end of this coming season.

 

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Marco Luciano

GiantsSS

Notes:

ETA: 2023

Final 2019 Ranking: 63

Tools: Hit: 60 | Power: 70 | Run: 40 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 60

2019 Average Exit Velo: 93

 

Skinny: Luciano was the Rookie-level Arizona League’s No. 2 prospect thanks to his offensive outburst. His plus hit-and-power combo led him to a 1.055 OPS, good for fourth in the league. Luciano was promoted to short-season Salem-Keizer for the team's playoff run but ended up on the injured list with hamstring woes.

 

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Dustin May

DodgersRHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 17

Tools: Fastball: 70 | Cutter: 60 | Curveball: 50 | Changeup: 45 | Control: 70

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 95

 

Skinny: After posting a 3.38 ERA across two levels of the upper minors in 106.2 innings, May got called up on Aug. 2 and was impactful as both a starter and reliever for Los Angeles. His plus sinker and plus control drove his success and should see him used in a similar role this year.

[TheHurl]

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Wander Franco

RaysSS

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 1

Tools: Hit: 80 | Power: 60 | Run: 50 | Fielding: 55 | Arm: 50

2019 Average Exit Velo: 90

 

Skinny: Franco was locked in all season and continued to show his plus hit tool and power. He hit above .300 every month and was promoted in late June to the Florida State League, where he slashed .339/.408/.464 with 16 extra-base hits. Franco drew more walks (56) than strikeouts (35) in 114 games, proving once again that the 18-year old’s advanced approach to hitting is well beyond his years.

 

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Luis Robert

White SoxOF

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 3

Tools: Hit: 55 | Power: 70 | Run: 70 | Fielding: 60 | Arm: 70

2019 Average Exit Velo: 90

 

Skinny: Robert tore up the minors in 2019 and hit a career-high 32 homers. He smashed through the Carolina League before crushing Southern League pitching for 56 games and made it all the way to Triple-A Charlotte, where he tacked on another 16 homers in a hitter-friendly home ballpark. The outfielder also recorded a 30-30 season, possibly the first of many for the rising star.

 

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Jo Adell

AngelsOF

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 2

Tools: Hit: 60 | Power: 70 | Run: 60 | Fielding: 55 | Arm: 60

2019 Average Exit Velo: 93

 

Skinny: Adell managed to navigate his way through a sprained ankle and strained hamstring which cost him the first six weeks of the season. He bounced back in a big way, showing extra-base power and an improved knowledge of the strike zone in the upper minors. Adell's .944 OPS against Southern League pitching got him a promotion in early August to Triple-A before accruing some more at-bats in the Arizona Fall League.

 

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Gavin Lux

DodgersSS/2B

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 6

Tools: Hit: 60 | Power: 55 | Run: 60 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 55

2019 Average Exit Velo: 91

 

Skinny: Lux cruised through the Double-A Texas League to earn himself a spot in the Futures Game before receiving a promotion to Triple-A Oklahoma City in late June. His power continued to develop as he hit a career-high 26 homers before getting called up to the big leagues on Sept. 2. Lux hit .240/.305/.400 in 23 games down the stretch with Los Angeles and should have a chance to make an impact alongside the Dodgers’ other youthful infielders.

 

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Adley Rutschman

OriolesC

Notes:

ETA: 2022

Final 2019 Ranking: 5

Tools: Hit: 70 | Power: 60 | Run: 40 | Fielding: 60 | Arm: 70

2019 Average Exit Velo: 89

 

Skinny: Rutschman brings excellent leadership skills along with an impact profile on both sides of the ball at a key position on the diamond. The start of his pro career was delayed due to a bout of mononucleosis he dealt with after the draft. He finished the season with low Class A Delmarva after 37 games. Rutschman should move quickly through the minors, where his plus power from both side of the plate and plus defensive skills behind the dish profile as a cornerstone type of player.

 

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MacKenzie Gore

PadresLHP

Notes:

ETA: 2021

Final 2019 Ranking: 4

Tools: Fastball: 60 | Curveball: 55 | Slider: 60 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 60

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 93

 

Skinny: Gore put his prior blister issues in the rearview mirror this season and tossed 101 innings, his first time cracking the triple-digit threshold in his pro career. After dominating the California League to the tune of a 1.02 ERA, Gore posted a 4.15 mark in five starts after his promotion to the Double-A Texas League. This was more of a speed bump than anything else, as the league is known for its offensively-oriented context. Gore’s athleticism, four-pitch mix and plus control should land him in the front of the Padres' rotation.

 

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Nate Pearson

Blue JaysRHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 7

Tools: Fastball: 80 | Curveball: 45 | Slider: 60 | Changeup: 55 | Control: 55

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 97

 

Skinny: Pearson’s workload was managed by alternating five- and two-inning starts before July 24, when the restrictions were lifted and he started going deeper into games. He tossed at least five frames in each start after that date to close out the season. Armed with a fastball that touches triple digits, Pearson works with a plus slider and a changeup that has trended positively and projects as plus as well. Pearson has the body and stuff to sit at the front of Toronto’s rotation in the near future.

 

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Julio Rodriguez

MarinersOF

Notes:

ETA: 2022

Final 2019 Ranking: 33

Tools: Hit: 70 | Power: 70 | Run: 45 | Fielding: 50 | Arm: 70

2019 Average Exit Velo: 92

 

Skinny: Rodriguez’s 70-grade hit tool and power were on display all season. After collecting 31 extra-base hits in 67 games for low Class A West Virginia, the 18-year old went on to hit .462/.514/.738 against California League pitching in 72 plate appearances. The future right field masher topped that off with a successful 15-game stint in the Arizona Fall League to close out his year.

 

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Jesus Luzardo

AthleticsLHP

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 9

Tools: Fastball: 60 | Curveball: 55 | Changeup: 70 | Control: 60

2019 Average Fastball Velo: 96

 

Skinny: Luzardo struggled with shoulder and lat injuries last season, which caused him to log just 41 innings for high Class A Stockton and Triple-A Las Vegas. After posting a 3.19 mark across seven starts in the offensive climate of the Pacific Coast League, Luzardo was called up to the big leagues on Sept. 7. He worked six games in relief, fanning 16 batters in 12 frames to end the season. With a clean bill of health, Luzardo should pitch at the front end of Oakland’s rotation in 2020 thanks to his three-pitch mix and plus control.

 

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Dylan Carlson

CardinalsOF

Notes:

ETA: 2020

Final 2019 Ranking: 16

Tools: Hit: 55 | Power: 60 | Run: 55 | Fielding: 55 | Arm: 50

2019 Average Exit Velo: 88

 

Skinny: Carlson saw his tools and feel for the game click with Double-A Springfield this past year. The outfielder clubbed 21 homers before receiving a promotion to Triple-A Memphis on Aug. 7 for an 18-game stint to close out the season. Carlson posted a 20-20 campaign, putting his power and speed profile on full display.

[KevinGregg]

Awesome to see SWR right next to Graterol, the guy so many people were upset we didn't get for Stroman

[TheHurl]

Quick reference so you don't have to read through that s***.

 

Pearson at 7, Groshans 29, Sim 61

[Ray]

Awesome to see SWR right next to Graterol, the guy so many people were upset we didn't get for Stroman

 

Woods-Richardson would likely be considered untouchable if Stroman were being dealt today.

[Laika]

Quick reference so you don't have to read through that s***.

 

Pearson at 7, Groshans 29, Sim 61

 

Aggressive rankings for these three, which is great.

 

Would have been nice to see a few more Blue Jays dudes sneak into the back end of the list but that doesn't really matter.

[Ray]

Aggressive rankings for these three, which is great.

 

Would have been nice to see a few more Blue Jays dudes sneak into the back end of the list but that doesn't really matter.

 

Already posted above, but Alejandro Kirk was apparently on a shortlist of 5 prospects that barely missed the cut.

 

Other Blue Jays prospects that had Top 100 consideration:

 

⁠- Alek Manoah

⁠- Orelvis Martinez

- Gabriel Moreno

⁠- Adam Kloffenstein

⁠- Eric Pardinho

 

If these guys have a good start to the season, we'll likely see them on the midseason list.

[glory]

Props to Atkins for identifying SWR. It is hard to get top prospects from other teams in trades, and while Brody is an agent parading as a GM, it was still a nice move to be able to get a young SP pre breakout.

[Ray]

Top 10 Shortstops according to MLB Pipeline: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2020/?list=ss

 

1. Wander Franco

2. Gavin Lux

3. Royce Lewis

4. Bobby Witt Jr.

5. Carter Kieboom

6. CJ Abrams

7. Marco Luciano

8. Jeter Downs

9. Nico Hoerner

10. Ronny Mauricio

[EZe]

First people complained that we were taking quantity over quality in trades. When would Shatkins acquire a Kluber or Carrasco like in the past ?

 

Then people complained about the Stroman deal because we moved too early and didn't have a 3rd fringe prospect included.

I always felt they gauged the market and determined with their evaluations that SWR was the top SP prospect available to them that would be moved.

On top of that they were also receiving Kay a top 120 prospect.

Once on the table they had to move quickly in case Mets fell out of contention and Brodie pulled the offer before the deadline.

 

The cherry on top was reinvesting the salary toward Ryu. I think they played that scenario perfectly.

[Spanky__99]

Quick reference so you don't have to read through that s***.

 

Pearson at 7, Groshans 29, Sim 61

 

Thanks for sharing.

[Ray]

[Laika]

Already posted above, but Alejandro Kirk was apparently on a shortlist of 5 prospects that barely missed the cut.

 

Other Blue Jays prospects that had Top 100 consideration:

 

⁠- Alek Manoah

⁠- Orelvis Martinez

- Gabriel Moreno

⁠- Adam Kloffenstein

⁠- Eric Pardinho

 

If these guys have a good start to the season, we'll likely see them on the midseason list.

 

I've looked into this before and the importance of being a "top 100" prospect really stops mattering after the top ~50 or so. 100 is an arbitrary number and players who are in the HM range of a top 100 are for the most part just as valuable as the back end top 100 players.

[Ray]

I've looked into this before and the importance of being a "top 100" prospect really stops mattering after the top ~50 or so. 100 is an arbitrary number and players who are in the HM range of a top 100 are for the most part just as valuable as the back end top 100 players.

 

It's basically a gimmicky selling point.

 

I'd be more interested in a "Top X prospects" list with X being the number of prospects with 55 FV or whatever FV you determine to be significant.

[Laika]

It's basically a gimmicky selling point.

 

I'd be more interested in a "Top X prospects" list with X being the number of prospects with 55 FV or whatever FV you determine to be significant.

 

One of the reasons I love what Fangraphs is doing now with prospect stuff. It's free, there is huge coverage, and it's systematic.

 

On their prospect board from 2019 update:

 

1 --> 70

2-3 --> 65

4-14 --> 60

15-37 --> 55

38-106 --> 50

 

So prospects 38 to 106 were the same grade!

[Brownie19]

Quick reference so you don't have to read through that s***.

 

Pearson at 7, Groshans 29, Sim 61

 

Pretty awesome to see Groshans rise so much - even though he missed most of last season. Future stud.

[Krylian]

Pretty awesome to see Groshans rise so much - even though he missed most of last season. Future stud.

 

If the Jays were seriously looking into Lindor then I'm guessing they must be shopping Groshans around. I don't think he ever plays a game with the Jays.

[Jimcanuck]

If the Jays were seriously looking into Lindor then I'm guessing they must be shopping Groshans around. I don't think he ever plays a game with the Jays.

 

Lindor would be Groshans and SWR both. Don't agree with your second sentence. Far more likely he does.

[43211234]

SWR outranking Deivi Garcia on the BA list.

[Krylian]

Lindor would be Groshans and SWR both. Don't agree with your second sentence. Far more likely he does.

 

I don't think he'll be ML ready for at least a couple of years. I see the Jays dealing him before that.

[Jimcanuck]

I don't think he'll be ML ready for at least a couple of years. I see the Jays dealing him before that.

 

That would be a mistake. Sustained winning is the better approach then trading prospects for a short term window of opportunity.

[Laika]

I don't think he'll be ML ready for at least a couple of years. I see the Jays dealing him before that.

 

Really I have no idea where you would get this dumb thought from. One rumour that they checked in on Lindor? When has this Toronto regime ever signalled that they were interested in selling futures?

[max silver]

Really I have no idea where you would get this dumb thought from. One rumour that they checked in on Lindor? When has this Toronto regime ever signalled that they were interested in selling futures?

 

Atkins himself has suggested that the farm system may be used to improve the major league squad, and potentially to add impact players.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/atkins-blue-jays-farm-system-keeps-trade-options-open-front-office/

[Spanky__99]

Atkins himself has suggested that the farm system may be used to improve the major league squad, and potentially to add impact players.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/atkins-blue-jays-farm-system-keeps-trade-options-open-front-office/

 

Yes, but that was a few hours ago, and the keyword is "may", lol.

[Laika]

Atkins himself has suggested that the farm system may be used to improve the major league squad, and potentially to add impact players.

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/atkins-blue-jays-farm-system-keeps-trade-options-open-front-office/

 

Every GM of every team would always say that they may use the farm to improve the team by trade.

 

There's a difference between using the farm to trade for talent and trading an elite prospect like Groshans. Correct me if I'm wrong but trading Groshans right now would maybe be Toronto trading the best prospect they've ever dealt in their history (in context, not looking back)???

[max silver]

Every GM of every team would always say that they may use the farm to improve the team by trade.

 

There's a difference between using the farm to trade for talent and trading an elite prospect like Groshans. Correct me if I'm wrong but trading Groshans right now would maybe be Toronto trading the best prospect they've ever dealt in their history (in context, not looking back)???

 

The only comparable level of prospect that has been traded away that immediately comes to mind is Noah Synergaard. One guy that ended up having a fantastic career Jeff Kent was traded away years ago, but I have no idea how highly he was thought of as a prospect at the time of the trade.

[Grant77]

Every GM of every team would always say that they may use the farm to improve the team by trade.

 

There's a difference between using the farm to trade for talent and trading an elite prospect like Groshans. Correct me if I'm wrong but trading Groshans right now would maybe be Toronto trading the best prospect they've ever dealt in their history (in context, not looking back)???

 

I don't know the rankings, but Steve Karsay was considered one of the league's elite pitching prospects when we dealt him.

[Captain Adama]

Every GM of every team would always say that they may use the farm to improve the team by trade.

 

There's a difference between using the farm to trade for talent and trading an elite prospect like Groshans. Correct me if I'm wrong but trading Groshans right now would maybe be Toronto trading the best prospect they've ever dealt in their history (in context, not looking back)???

 

Travis d'Arnaud was a top 15 prospect when he was traded IIRC