Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[jays4life19]

That's why they call me JF "Detective: L19

[Spanky__99]

You guys remind me of those click bait adds that have a line and say 'YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT???"

 

Right? The Bastards!

[Spanky__99]

Welp...

 

[King]

Not sure why he wouldn't just take his 5 million dollar payout from the A's, play baseball for 2 years, (probably suck) and then try the NFL.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Not sure why he wouldn't just take his 5 million dollar payout from the A's, play baseball for 2 years, (probably suck) and then try the NFL.

 

Well let us see Baker Mayfields signing bonus

Was 22,185,523 with a rookie contact paying him another 32,993,327 over the course of it

 

No Slaving away in the Minors for 3-5 years

Riding on buses etc etc He would be considered a Pro right out of the Gate !

 

How good and many Years would it take for him to do the Same in Baseball even if he turned out to be Vlad the Franchise Great or good ???

 

Plus as a Fielder way way more competition to be considered elite or great at it and the wall hits faster after 30 to decline some would say then for a Elite or Good QBs in the NFL

 

Look had how few teams have a Great QB

In the NFL and look at what the pay the s*** they call some starters and over the hill never will be Backups !

 

Risk is Great but Rewards are many ...

 

Plus Qb’s only get Hit if they play and in baseball he will have to get hits to play !!!

 

Ying n Yang ... To Take em or Get them !!!

[metafour]

Well let us see Baker Mayfields signing bonus

Was 22,185,523 with a rookie contact paying him another 32,993,327 over the course of it

 

Yeah, because he went 1st overall LMAO. While things could change, Murray is more of a late 1st round pick at this point. His signing bonus in that range would be nowhere near $20+ million, in fact it would be in the ~$5-7 mill range which isn't drastically more than what the A's gave him. As a late first round pick, he'd be going to a team that would be "grooming" him to start...ie: he'd be a backup most likely. Is it better than being in the minors? Sure, but lets not pretend like he signs his contract and he's a day one starting NFL QB.

 

Murray is even smaller than Mayfield and he has nowhere near the track-record of performance that Mayfield did. There is a BIG difference there. Murray has one year of performance, and NFL teams typically weigh that as pretty important in evaluation. Kyler Murray was NOT good in his other most-relevant season of play at Texas A&M.

 

Mayfield: 45 career starts, 1497 career pass attempts

Murray: 17 career starts, 519 career pass attempts

Edited January 10, 2019 by metafour

[Brownie19]

Yeah, because he went 1st overall LMAO. While things could change, Murray is more of a late 1st round pick at this point. His signing bonus in that range would be nowhere near $20+ million, in fact it would be in the ~$5-7 mill range which isn't drastically more than what the A's gave him. As a late first round pick, he'd be going to a team that would be "grooming" him to start...ie: he'd be a backup most likely. Is it better than being in the minors? Sure, but lets not pretend like he signs his contract and he's a day one starting NFL QB.

 

Murray is even smaller than Mayfield and he has nowhere near the track-record of performance that Mayfield did. There is a BIG difference there. Murray has one year of performance, and NFL teams typically weigh that as pretty important in evaluation. Kyler Murray was NOT good in his other most-relevant season of play at Texas A&M.

 

Mayfield: 45 career starts, 1497 career pass attempts

Murray: 17 career starts, 519 career pass attempts

 

Ironically, a video from last October recently emerged of Kliff Kingsbury (Arizona's new coach) saying he would take Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray "with the first pick of the draft if I could," an interesting coincidence given his new team's position at the top of the draft.

 

I'd love to be a fly in the room during a meeting with his agent.

 

I have a question. If Kyler enters the draft (which I think he already has?) - can he simply choose not to sign with the team who drafts him? Couldn't he put out he word that he's only willing to sign and play football if he's drafted before a certain draft pick - and that he'd need a certain amount of money guaranteed - otherwise, he won't sign and will go back and play baseball?

 

ie, Couldn't he say he has to be drafted top 10 and be guaranteed $20M or he's going to spring training?

[Spanky__99]

Ironically, a video from last October recently emerged of Kliff Kingsbury (Arizona's new coach) saying he would take Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray "with the first pick of the draft if I could," an interesting coincidence given his new team's position at the top of the draft.

 

I'd love to be a fly in the room during a meeting with his agent.

 

I have a question. If Kyler enters the draft (which I think he already has?) - can he simply choose not to sign with the team who drafts him? Couldn't he put out he word that he's only willing to sign and play football if he's drafted before a certain draft pick - and that he'd need a certain amount of money guaranteed - otherwise, he won't sign and will go back and play baseball?

 

ie, Couldn't he say he has to be drafted top 10 and be guaranteed $20M or he's going to spring training?

 

I highly doubt he can demand that, I saw that interview with Kingsbury this morning, oh the irony, lol. I believe the kid is heavily leaning a QB NFL Career, his guaranteed money will leave him pretty rich.

[TheHurl]

Lamar Jackson went 32nd overall and got 4 years $9.37M with $4.8 as a bonus. Josh Rosen went 10th overall and he got a four-year deal worth $17.84 million with a $11 million signing bonus. Plus as with all 1st rounders there is a team option for a 5th year.

[jays4life19]

I would be willing to make a wager with someone that Kyler Murray won't be a first round pick.

 

Conditional on him opting into the draft.

 

Any takers?

[Angrioter]

Fernando Tatis Walkoff 3-runs dinger.

 

 

He's the best player in the Dominican winter league with just 19 years old

[43211234]

Fangraphs posted the Red Sox prospect list today so the Blue Jays should be within the next week or so.

[Daniel Labude]

Ironically, a video from last October recently emerged of Kliff Kingsbury (Arizona's new coach) saying he would take Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray "with the first pick of the draft if I could," an interesting coincidence given his new team's position at the top of the draft.

 

I'd love to be a fly in the room during a meeting with his agent.

 

I have a question. If Kyler enters the draft (which I think he already has?) - can he simply choose not to sign with the team who drafts him? Couldn't he put out he word that he's only willing to sign and play football if he's drafted before a certain draft pick - and that he'd need a certain amount of money guaranteed - otherwise, he won't sign and will go back and play baseball?

 

ie, Couldn't he say he has to be drafted top 10 and be guaranteed $20M or he's going to spring training?

 

Yes he can. It has happened I think a few times. This being the most obvious similar case imo.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/27/sports/colts-pick-elway-but-the-quarterback-refuses-to-go.html

[Brownie19]

I highly doubt he can demand that, I saw that interview with Kingsbury this morning, oh the irony, lol. I believe the kid is heavily leaning a QB NFL Career, his guaranteed money will leave him pretty rich.

 

Why can't he demand that? or at least let teams know what it would take to get him to opt out of his deal with Oakland to pursue football?

 

I'd love to know the details of his deal with Oakland. If they say he can't sign, or play football, then you'd think there's nothing wrong him him entering the draft and getting drafted. Once that happens, he can decide where he wants to go. This is a very weak QB class and we just saw an undersized QB (Mayfield) and a hybrid QB (Jackson) pay immediate dividends for the teams who weren't afraid to go against the grain of the "typical" NFL QB.

 

If Murray did go Top 10 - I would understand why he'd forgo baseball. s***** backups like Mike Glennon can make like $18.5M a year.

[LGBJ29]

I would be willing to make a wager with someone that Kyler Murray won't be a first round pick.

 

Conditional on him opting into the draft.

 

Any takers?

 

Yup I'll take that bet.

[jays4life19]

Yup I'll take that bet.

 

Sweet. How much are you comfortable with betting?

[LGBJ29]

Sweet. How much are you comfortable with betting?

 

my house

[jays4life19]

my house

 

So. 50$ it is?

[LGBJ29]

no im kidding, but i'll do anywhere from 25-50 whatever you're cool with

[jays4life19]

Alrighty, i'll post it in the betting thread and you can confirm there.

[LGBJ29]

yeah 50 works for me

[spats]

Anyone going to the Bisons meet and greet next Thursday...list of attendees includes Vlad, Kevin Smith, Biggio, Merryweather, Wall and a host of other prospects. A donation of $10 gets you a Sahlen's hotdog, soft drink, an autograph session and a ticket to the Bisons opening game on April 4th. The event is being held at Rich's Atrium on Niagara st in Buffalo but is sold out. I may have an extra ticket. Pm me if interested.

[jays4life19]

yeah 50 works for me

 

Noice! Alright, it's posted in the OT wagers thread

[Laika]

Anyone going to the Bisons meet and greet next Thursday...list of attendees includes Vlad, Kevin Smith, Biggio, Merryweather, Wall and a host of other prospects. A donation of $10 gets you a Sahlen's hotdog, soft drink, an autograph session and a ticket to the Bisons opening game on April 4th. The event is being held at Rich's Atrium on Niagara st in Buffalo but is sold out. I may have an extra ticket. Pm me if interested.

 

$10 for a Vlad auto AND a hotdog? wow

[spats]

$10 for a Vlad auto AND a hotdog? wow

 

And a ticket to Bison's home opener. That's $10 US, so actually around $100 Canadian.

[John_Havok]

And a ticket to Bison's home opener. That's $10 US, so actually around $100 Canadian.

 

I was just thinking today that it's almost time for you to come out of hibernation. A bit early this year though.

 

What's your plans for spring training this year?

[spats]

I was just thinking today that it's almost time for you to come out of hibernation. A bit early this year though.

 

What's your plans for spring training this year?

 

Heading down near the end of March and will stay until the end of April....will take in a few A-ball games when i figure out where their home games will be played...hopefully in Clearwater.

[Angrioter]

RHP Dany Jiménez is good.

 

Good arm

[Slade]

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/10-late-round-sleeper-prospects-to-watch-for-2019/

 

 

Maybe they went to a small school.

 

Maybe they were a cold-weather high school player who didn't stand out at high-profile showcases.

 

Maybe they were good hitters or instinctive players who lacked the type of quick-twitch athleticism or premium tools that quickly catch the attention of scouts, or maybe they have those loud tools but had other holes that created red flags.

 

Every year, there are players who slip through the cracks and become late-round draft success stories. In many cases, the scouting directors and their top crosscheckers didn't even see them before the draft.

 

These are 10 late-round sleeper prospects from the 2018 draft to keep an eye on, players drafted from Round 10 on who signed for less than $300,000.

 

1. Cal Stevenson, OF, Blue Jays (10th round)

 

Stevenson signed for $5,000 as senior out of Arizona, then led the Rookie-level Appalachian League in on-base percentage by hitting .359/.494/.518 in 53 games. Stevenson has some of the sharpest strike-zone judgment in the minors, which he showed by drawing more than twice as many walks (53) as strikeouts (21) in the Appy League. He's a disciplined, high contact hitter (he struck out in just eight percent of his Appy League plate appearances), though he has little power, with just one home run his last year in college, then two in his pro debut. He's also an above-average runner who should be able to handle center field.

 

2. Justin Toerner, OF, Cardinals (28th round)

 

Toerner moved fairly quickly for a $3,000 signing. He spent most of his pro debut with short-season State College, but he also played with low Class A Peoria and high Class A Palm Beach in the final month of the season, batting a combined .312/.410/.385 in 67 games. A four-year starter at Cal State Northridge, Toerner is a lefty who hit well throughout his college years and controls the strike zone well, though the risk is that he hasn't shown much power, with just one home run in pro ball. He's an above-average runner with an average arm in center field.

 

3. Jack Herman, OF, Pirates (30th round)

 

A Maryland commit, Herman instead signed with the Pirates for $50,000. He slid under the radar as a high school player in New Jersey, but he made a loud impression with his bat in the Rookie-level Gulf Coast League, where he ranked second in on-base percentage and third in batting average by hitting .340/.435/.489 in 37 games. He's a bat-first prospect with quick hands, sound swing mechanics and a strong grasp of the strike zone. Herman split time between center and right field in the GCL, though he fits best in right field long term.

 

4. Brandon Howlett, 3B, Red Sox (21st round)

 

Howlett was a Florida State commit but signed with the Red Sox for $185,000. With third baseman and first-round pick Triston Casas also on their GCL club, the Red Sox were planning to send Howlett to left field, but when Casas went out for the year with an injury, Howlett stepped in and played solid defense at third base with a chance to stick at the position. Mostly, though, Howlett shined offensively, batting .307/.405/.529 in 39 GCL games before a late promotion to short-season Lowell. While some scouts had concerns about Howlett's pitch recognition going into the draft, he showed a patient approach in pro ball, with solid-average raw power that he was able to get to in games.

 

5. Logan O'Hoppe, C, Phillies (23rd round)

 

Between lefthanders Nick Fanti and Kyle Young and righthander Ben Brown, the Phillies have added a collection of Long Island high school draft picks to their system in recent years. The latest addition is O'Hoppe, who signed for $215,000 and batted .367/.411/.532 in 34 games in the Rookie-level Gulf Coast League. O'Hoppe showed promise both at the plate and behind it, where he has a plus arm with advanced receiving skills and flexibility.

 

6. Michael Helman, 2B, Twins (11th round)

 

Helman spent two years at Hutchinson (Kan.) JC before transferring to Texas A&M. He made a quick impact as the Aggies' leadoff hitter, then signed with the Twins for $220,000. Helman, 22, split his pro debut between the Appy League and low Class A Cedar Rapids, batting a combined .361/.409/.510 in 39 games. Helman has good hand-eye coordination and a selective approach, helping him make frequent contact to get on base. Some scouts have reservations about Helman's defense at second base, but he's a good athlete with plus speed who could also fit in center field.

 

7. Brock Deatherage, OF, Tigers (10th round)

 

As a junior at N.C. State, Deatherage showed exciting tools but hit .218/.304/.330. The Pirates still drafted Deatherage in the 27th round, but he returned to school for his senior year, bounced back to hit .307/.397/.548, then signed with the Tigers for $10,000. He progressed quickly, finishing 2018 with high Class A Lakeland and showing big power in his pro debut. Deatherage is a tooled-up, athletic center fielder with plus-plus speed (he stole 19 bases in 22 attempts in pro ball), a plus arm and above-average raw power. Deatherage's biggest risk factor is his swing-and-miss rate, but his dynamic tool set at a premium position is exciting if he can keep his strikeouts to a manageable level.

 

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St. Louis Cardinals 2018 MLB Draft Grades

St. Louis Cardinals first rounder Nolan Gorman shows plus-plus power, Luken Baker can mash and more superlatives.

 

8. Gus Varland, RHP, Athletics (14th round)

 

Varland overmatched hitters in college, but he did it at Division II Concordia in Minnesota. Signed for $125,000, Varland replicated his success as a starter in his pro debut, posting an ERA of 0.95 in 38 innings with a 50-8 K-BB mark, mostly with short-season Vermont and low Class A Beloit. Varland isn't a smoke-and-mirrors guy either. He ran his fastball up to 97 mph in college and regularly registered in the low to mid-90s in pro ball, with a high spin rate that helps him miss bats when he elevates. Varland's mechanics give some scouts pause as to whether he will remain a starter, but he repeats his delivery and fills the strike zone.

 

9. Jonah Davis, OF, Pirates (21st round)

 

Davis hit two home runs between his freshman and sophomore seasons at California, but he showed big power as a junior, slugging 14 homers in 54 games. After signing for $125,000, Davis kept the power show going for Rookie-level Bristol, batting .306/.398/.612 with 12 home runs in 51 games. At 5-foot-10, 180 pounds, Davis isn't that big, but he has legitimate plus raw power from the left side, though he still has holes in his swing that create swing-and-miss risk. Davis played center field in his pro debut, though he fits better in a corner.

 

10. Simon Rosenblum-Larson, RHP, Rays (19th round)

 

An $85,000 signing from Harvard, Rosenblum-Larson had an excellent pro debut. Working out of the bullpen for short-season Hudson Valley and low Class A Bowling Green, Rosenblum-Larson posted a sparkling 62-9 K-BB mark in 38.2 innings with a 1.16 ERA. He's a low-slot righthander who drops down to a low three-quarter, near sidearm angle, giving hitters an uncomfortable look with his low-90s fastball and a solid slider.

[jays4life19]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/13/report-kyler-murray-wants-15-million-to-commit-to-baseball/

 

lol