Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Brownie19]

Wow - I suspect he'd get claimed, but what do I know.

[Abomination]

Can you justify a 40 man spot on him next year? Are you going to give him pinch hit or spot starts over Teoscar, Smith or Lourdes that are already on the 40? Do you prioritize him over a Connor Greene? Danny Jansen? Pentecost? Jays have 44 on the 40 man right now with the 5 on the 60 day. Do they have enough guys that can be moved to the 60 day (I honestly don't know the injuries I've been away) Does it leave them a roster crunch for next year?

 

I think you leave Rowdy exposed to the Rule 5 next year and hope he doesn't get claimed.

 

Strongly disagree with exposing him. He's always hit, except for this year with some family stuff going on (if I remember right). You can trade him, but giving away legitimately good prospects is just plain stupid. He would definitely be claimed.

[Terminator]

Wow - I suspect he'd get claimed, but what do I know.

 

I suppose he could but the team claiming him would have to roster a 1B only player who is project to hit around 80 wRC+. You'd REALLY have to have no hopes for the upcoming season to eat the negative WAR that he'd provide. On top of it if you try to hide him as the 25th man and occasional pinch hitter or spot starter which would only hinder his development.

[Bobthe4th]

I suppose he could but the team claiming him would have to roster a 1B only player who is project to hit around 80 wRC+. You'd REALLY have to have no hopes for the upcoming season to eat the negative WAR that he'd provide. On top of it if you try to hide him as the 25th man and occasional pinch hitter or spot starter which would only hinder his development.

 

There's no real risk for the claiming team if they're not contenders.

 

He's a close to MLB ready prospect. Pick him and play him at 1B, if he's rubbish no harm done and offer him back. If he is pretty good or better you've got a basically free asset.

 

No way he'd go unclaimed IMO, and I doubt we risk exposing him.

[P2F]

There's no real risk for the claiming team if they're not contenders.

 

He's a close to MLB ready prospect. Pick him and play him at 1B, if he's rubbish no harm done and offer him back. If he is pretty good or better you've got a basically free asset.

 

No way he'd go unclaimed IMO, and I doubt we risk exposing him.

 

Bingo.

[Krylian]

There's no real risk for the claiming team if they're not contenders.

 

He's a close to MLB ready prospect. Pick him and play him at 1B, if he's rubbish no harm done and offer him back. If he is pretty good or better you've got a basically free asset.

 

No way he'd go unclaimed IMO, and I doubt we risk exposing him.

 

Agreed. That would be terrible asset management.

[TheHurl]

There's no real risk for the claiming team if they're not contenders.

 

He's a close to MLB ready prospect. Pick him and play him at 1B, if he's rubbish no harm done and offer him back. If he is pretty good or better you've got a basically free asset.

 

No way he'd go unclaimed IMO, and I doubt we risk exposing him.

 

Rule 5 has changed quite a bit over the past few years. Teams that are willing to punt (Padres last year) go 20/21 year old high upside internationals. Most other teams fill their pen. Not many teams have a spot to stash a 1B only guy. Maybe a team gives him a shot to win a starting job in Spring. I was down on Rowdy last year when he could hit, so maybe I just think it's not a big deal.

[TheHurl]

Agreed. That would be terrible asset management.

 

putting him on the 40 at the price of someone else might be considered the same. Trying to sneak him through the draft is probably the prudent thing to do. Unless of course they know teams have shown interest in him. I feel like things like the Rule 5 are pretty much discussed among the GM's.

[bendera3]

Rule 5 has changed quite a bit over the past few years. Teams that are willing to punt (Padres last year) go 20/21 year old high upside internationals. Most other teams fill their pen. Not many teams have a spot to stash a 1B only guy. Maybe a team gives him a shot to win a starting job in Spring. I was down on Rowdy last year when he could hit, so maybe I just think it's not a big deal.

 

I think a bad AL team would take a chance on him as they can cycle him through DH as well. In the past 7 or so years only 5 first basemen have been selected and most were returned, but I know nothing about the profiles of the players selected.

[Brownie19]

Of the 13 qualified DH's in the AL, only 4 have a wRC+ over 102 and a WAR > 0.1. It's pretty damn bleak out there.

 

I realise it's not that easy, but I think based on this, teams would be willing to take a look at him.

[Captain Adama]

I was thinking more along the lines of Delgado or Shawn Green era hype. Snider put up great minor league numbers but was a bad body player, not very athletic compared to V Jr.

 

Vlad has gotten similar comps body wise to Snider, definitely closer to him than someone like Green, but the key for Vlad are his elite K-BB ratios compared to Snider.

[Krylian]

Vlad has gotten similar comps body wise to Snider, definitely closer to him than someone like Green, but the key for Vlad are his elite K-BB ratios compared to Snider.

 

Green was tall and lean when he came up. Not at all like VGJ

[BTS]

Longenhagen dropped his summer top-100

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/summer-top-100-prospects/

[Krylian]

Longenhagen dropped his summer top-100

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/summer-top-100-prospects/

 

White Sox with three of the Top 9 prospects. Impressive.

[Stoneyen]

Longenhagen dropped his summer top-100

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/summer-top-100-prospects/

 

Top 3 are all in the majors now, which would put Vlad at 4 behind Eloy, Acuna and Torres. Not too shabby

[P2F]

Longenhagen dropped his summer top-100

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/summer-top-100-prospects/

 

I love that list. Probably the best one to date, mind you it helps doing it later than the others.

[GoldBull]

Nice list. Like the aggressive ranks on Forrest Whitley and Michel Baez.

 

That said, I really don't understand Longenhagen's love for Corey Ray. 22 y/o (almost 23) in A-ball with a 92 wRC+ and a 31% K-rate seems really poor for a #27 ranked prospect. Obviously, I'm stat-scouting and not considering speed/defence. Is that really a difference maker?

[Grant77]

White Sox with three of the Top 9 prospects. Impressive.

 

Is it just me, or is this one of the weakest top 10s in recent memory? Could just be the fact that Yoan 'Brandon Wood' Moncada is first, but even the rest of it looks rather weak compared to past years.

[Brownie19]

Is it just me, or is this one of the weakest top 10s in recent memory? Could just be the fact that Yoan 'Brandon Wood' Moncada is first, but even the rest of it looks rather weak compared to past years.

 

It's just you.

[BTS]

Is it just me, or is this one of the weakest top 10s in recent memory? Could just be the fact that Yoan 'Brandon Wood' Moncada is first, but even the rest of it looks rather weak compared to past years.

 

Just you. Moncada may be a bit weaker than most #1 overalls, but guys like Devers, Vlad, Acuna, Robles, and Jimenez look like absolute monsters, and Torres and Rosario look like excellent all-around talents. Top-10 is absolutely loaded IMO.

[Dr. Dinger]

Just you. Moncada may be a bit weaker than most #1 overalls, but guys like Devers, Vlad, Acuna, Robles, and Jimenez look like absolute monsters, and Torres and Rosario look like excellent all-around talents. Top-10 is absolutely loaded IMO.

 

Completely agree. I don't think it's a weak crop at all, impact bats abound at the top of the list. The current Top 20 or so is a bit light on pitching, but that may just be a case of a very strong crop of hitters.

[BTS]

Completely agree. I don't think it's a weak crop at all, impact bats abound at the top of the list. The current Top 20 or so is a bit light on pitching, but that may just be a case of a very strong crop of hitters.

 

The only pitchers I really love right now who are getting top-30 hype are Buehler and Honeywell. I prefer the strong hitter crop though.

[MunenoriKawasakiMVP]

Reggie Pruitt 4/5 with a HR last night to elevate his WRC+ to 83. Would be awesome to see him develop the bat with his speed/defense combo.

[MunenoriKawasakiMVP]

And why the f*** is Tyler Glasnow so good in AAA and so bad in MLB? 6'8'' and great stuff too.

[BTS]

Glasnow scrapped the windup before his first AAA start this year, and says it helps his stuff play up, and helps him remain consistent pitch to pitch and start to start. He's been utterly dominant in AAA since making the change, much better than even his 2016 stint. I'm really looking forward to his recall.

[P2F]

The only pitchers I really love right now who are getting top-30 hype are Buehler and Honeywell. I prefer the strong hitter crop though.

 

Agreed with the above two, but I'm on Keller and Whitley as well - though I'm not sure if you would've included Whitley because this is the only list where he's ranked this high.

[P2F]

Alec Hansen does not get enough love. He looks like a stud.

[Brownie19]

Glasnow scrapped the windup before his first AAA start this year, and says it helps his stuff play up, and helps him remain consistent pitch to pitch and start to start. He's been utterly dominant in AAA since making the change, much better than even his 2016 stint. I'm really looking forward to his recall.

 

Interesting to hear. I love that approach and I'm surprised more ML pitchers (especially ones with control problems) don't utilize it. I made the switch personally about 3 years ago and now only pitch out of the stretch and I love it.

 

Here are the stats/report for anyone who's curious

 

Glasnow, who has compiled a 7-0 record with a 1.57 ERA, 0.99 WHIP and 103:26 K:BB in 68.2 Triple-A innings since a demotion to the minors, has pitched exclusively out of the stretch for Indianapolis, Pirates Prospects reports. (8/13/2017)

[MunenoriKawasakiMVP]

Saunders has been raking since a few weeks. He's up to a ,735 OPS after a dreadful start.

[metafour]

Anyone else notice that McGregory Contreras (I refuse to put the space in his name) is raking of late and is hitting .288/.344/.432 as an 18 year old heading into tonight's game in which he is 1-1 already? They skipped him straight over the GCL as well.