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He definitely is. Certainly seems that way when you look around.

 

Donaldson, Bonds, MJ.. I guess Trout is the super nice guy but they all have that drive to be the best.

 

Being arrogant doesn't mean you can't be nice.

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Bo seems pretty arrogant.

I remember a sports psychologist from 10-15 years ago and he said he's interviewed some of the best athletes in various sports when they were younger. And he said guys who turned out to be superstars always wanted to be the best player in the league when they were older. While the others just wanted to make the pros. Was pretty interesting.

 

Vlad is too when it comes to his personal aspirations. Remember the comments he made just before/after he signed? He said he saw himself as a Miggy Cabrera when he was older, and wanted to beat all of his dad's numbers.

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I'm close to removing all reservations and unleashing the hype train for both Bo and Vlad. Would be nice to see them in A+ first though
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Vlad is too when it comes to his personal aspirations. Remember the comments he made just before/after he signed? He said he saw himself as a Miggy Cabrera when he was older, and wanted to beat all of his dad's numbers.

 

I don't think Vlad would say(paraphrasing) 'I think Pillar and Goins are annoyed because I can hit further than them already.'

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Bo was a bit of a porker in the videos from high school... almost looked like a LF/1B prospect. He's in remarkably better shape as a pro.
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Bo was a bit of a porker in the videos from high school... almost looked like a LF/1B prospect. He's in remarkably better shape as a pro.

 

He was? I thought he just had the chubby cheeks look.

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He was? I thought he just had the chubby cheeks look.

 

Not fat per se, just kind of doughy. Not obviously athletic. If you simply eyeballed his high school team you might have pegged him as the LF or 1B. Or catcher.

 

 

I actually think the kind of bad high school body probably turned some scouts off.

 

He looks completely different now.

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Not fat per se, just kind of doughy. Not obviously athletic. If you simply eyeballed his high school team you might have pegged him as the LF or 1B. Or catcher.

 

 

I actually think the kind of bad high school body probably turned some scouts off.

 

He looks completely different now.

 

Boy there's a lot going on in that swing. Hope he's cleaned it up.

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Tebow got promoted

 

To St. Lucie, Florida.

 

Gotta cash in on the Tebow fame in Florida before he gives up. Brutal effort by the Mets to suggest he earned the promotion. I mean some other nobody on that team should go to the Mets and ask for a promotion based on the fact he's breathing.

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Boy there's a lot going on in that swing. Hope he's cleaned it up.

 

Oh he has. The slightly open stance is gone, the tall setup with the high hands and exaggerated barrel tip is gone (these are all things his brother used to do). The toe tap was gone before he went pro.

 

His basic swing now is basically what Donaldson does. It's still loud and proud #Pride2017 but it's not stupid.

 

He also dramatically changes his approach/swing with 2 strikes and becomes a right handed Raimel Tapia. And when facing certain pitchers or in certain situations he uses different swings - different amounts of leg kick, basically. It's all very cool. He's a hitting genius.

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“The nurses kept calling me ‘Chuck Norris’ because they’d never seen anything like it.”

 

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My appendix ruptured while I was in the hospital waiting room and I *STILL* almost died. The amount of pain I was in is indescribable. The fact that he was trying to play through that is ridiculous.

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To St. Lucie, Florida.

 

Gotta cash in on the Tebow fame in Florida before he gives up. Brutal effort by the Mets to suggest he earned the promotion. I mean some other nobody on that team should go to the Mets and ask for a promotion based on the fact he's breathing.

 

I'm alright with it. I'm sure it irks some of the players but Tebow isn't a total disaster out there (wRC+ of 91) and these minor league affiliates are probably ecstatic about the ticket sales.

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My appendix ruptured while I was in the hospital waiting room and I *STILL* almost died. The amount of pain I was in is indescribable. The fact that he was trying to play through that is ridiculous.

 

And that his body just absorbed it and healed on its own with no medical attention needed. He's superhuman.

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Bo won't get quite that much love.

 

My favourite player to compare him to right now is Mookie Betts. So many similarities. The swings are more similar than most realize (including the swing path). A lot of the tools are comparable; Mookie has more speed but Bo might have a bit more pop. The defensive profile and developmental path might be identical (we'll see). I think Mookie is a really fair comp for Bo's upside.

 

Mookie in 2013 had a year like Bo's, that made prospectophiles cream their pants. .314/.417/.506 with 15 HR and 38 SB, while playing the infield, split between A and A+ as a 20 year old. Not as eye-popping as Bo's slashline and he was one year older BUT Mookie was uber-elite in an important way that Bo hasn't been: Mookie had 81 walks and only 57 strikeouts in 127 games. He was clearly special, much like Bo is now clearly special.

 

BA and MLB.com ranked Mookie 75th and 62nd heading into 2014. I don't think BP even ranked him!

 

Bo might get slightly better treatment but I would still not expect him to crack any list's top 25... could be wrong.

 

In my books (which are the best books) he's already in the elite. Most evaluators and rankers will fail to grasp the statistical significance of what he is doing this year. They'll treat it much the same as they'd treat a 20 year old hitting .320/.420/.520 in the same league. Just thrown into the "really really good!" bucket.

 

What I really don't get is why Mookie never got love. The guy has all the tools. Usually they treat the Calhoun and Goldy types this way but Betts could always run and always hit. Maybe it was his height?

 

Scouts are dumb.

 

Bo was a bit of a porker in the videos from high school... almost looked like a LF/1B prospect. He's in remarkably better shape as a pro.

 

Hopefully not too remarkable!

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Boy there's a lot going on in that swing. Hope he's cleaned it up.

 

Oh he has. The slightly open stance is gone, the tall setup with the high hands and exaggerated barrel tip is gone (these are all things his brother used to do). The toe tap was gone before he went pro.

 

His basic swing now is basically what Donaldson does. It's still loud and proud #Pride2017 but it's not stupid.

 

He also dramatically changes his approach/swing with 2 strikes and becomes a right handed Raimel Tapia. And when facing certain pitchers or in certain situations he uses different swings - different amounts of leg kick, basically. It's all very cool. He's a hitting genius.

 

Swing is quite different now.

Donaldson is actually a great comparison now that you mentioned it.

Video also shows his two strike approach, which is really cool, and weird at the same time.

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What I really don't get is why Mookie never got love. The guy has all the tools. Usually they treat the Calhoun and Goldy types this way but Betts could always run and always hit. Maybe it was his height?

 

Scouts are dumb.

 

Mookie kind of skipped his chance to place highly on the prospect lists by ascending too fast. In 2014 he debuted at AA, AAA, and MLB, using up his rookie eligibility.

 

Same thing happened with Goldy FWIW.

 

That was one part of it.

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