Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Ray]

Danny Jansen through 19 games in AA- .348/.425/.551 with 2HR, 9BB and 10K in 136 PA.

[jb22]

Danny Jansen through 19 games in AA- .348/.425/.551 with 2HR, 9BB and 10K in 136 PA.

 

81 PA in AA

[nmrch]

Danny Jansen is the type of player that goes unnoticed in the minors and then everyone's shocked that he turns into a good MLB regular.

[Angrioter]

Danny Jansen is the type of player that goes unnoticed in the minors and then everyone's shocked that he turns into a good MLB regular.

Angrioter, King, Jon, and some others posters Danny Jansen fans since day 1

[Nafro]

Angrioter, King, Jon, and some others posters Danny Jansen fans since day 1

 

I became a fan because you guys tooted his prospect horn so much. For the first season and a half I was continually disappointed. Though the reason for that was that he hadn't really played at all. I like the approach the organization has taken with their prospects health. They would rather lose a year or two of development time, in the thoughts of the bigger picture. Getting them fully healthy, has proved a much better option and development path anyway.

[Melvin]

Angrioter, King, Jon, and some others posters Danny Jansen fans since day 1

 

I'm a fan of anyone that Ang vouches for.

[THANOS]

Danny Jansen through 19 games in AA- .348/.425/.551 with 2HR, 9BB and 10K in 136 PA.

 

A promotion to AAA in a month should be in the cards. If he kills it there, hopefully a September call-up would be next.

 

It would be cool if he works his way up to becoming our back-up next season and Martin can help show him the ropes.

[Orgfiller]

A promotion to AAA in a month should be in the cards. If he kills it there, hopefully a September call-up would be next.

 

It would be cool if he works his way up to becoming our back-up next season and Martin can help show him the ropes.

 

Let's maybe slow down for a second. He's only 22, he's a catcher, and his career had been slowed down due to injuries. This is his first time performing at a very high level against good competition; there's no need to rush, especially if the team believes he can be an asset. With Russell Martin healthy for the time being, there's no need to potentially stunt Jansen's development by being needlessly aggressive. Martin's not going anywhere any time soon, there's plenty of time for him to give him advice in Spring Training or during the offseason. I'm not against a September call-up if he keeps tearing up AA for an extended period of time, but it's only been 81 PA, we should wait and see how his power, plate discipline and bat control skills continue to develop and adjust as he spends longer playing against tougher competition than he's ever seen before.

[Ray]

It's just nice to see this front office stress so much on having good catchers and catching depth. I think the singular most important position in all of baseball. The impact that good defensive and framing catchers like Posey, Martin, Molina, Cervelli have on their pitching staff is truly invaluable, and I think often overlooked. A big reason why the Giants rotation seems to over achieve year over year is because of Posey's game calling and framing. Not to say a good framer can make a garbage pitcher look like an ace, but he can often make an average one look slightly above average, and that adds up over the course of a season.

[Angrioter]

Shapiro and his "Mental part of the game" is working really good.

The Asian dude called Kim is good

[L54]

It would be cool to someday have a serviceable back up C.

[Atothe]

It would be cool to someday have a serviceable back up C.

 

I would like more than a serviceable back up. How about a young stud who backs up for a season

[Orgfiller]

I would like more than a serviceable back up. How about a young stud who backs up for a season

 

You're likely wasting those guys coming off the bench every 3 or 4 days, unless they're so athletic that they can play multiple positions around the field. Depends on what your definition of stud is in this case.

[Ray]

If Maile could even be a slightly below average hitter, he'd make for a more than viable backup behind Martin.

 

Reese McGuire seems to have backup C written all over him at this point.

[Brownie19]

It's just nice to see this front office stress so much on having good catchers and catching depth. I think the singular most important position in all of baseball. The impact that good defensive and framing catchers like Posey, Martin, Molina, Cervelli have on their pitching staff is truly invaluable, and I think often overlooked. A big reason why the Giants rotation seems to over achieve year over year is because of Posey's game calling and framing. Not to say a good framer can make a garbage pitcher look like an ace, but he can often make an average one look slightly above average, and that adds up over the course of a season.

 

I don't know man. A large % of drafted catchers end up going bust (much like QB's and top line SP'ing). I prefer the Cubs model where they draft position players with a much higher chance of reaching their potential. Use your $ or your prospects to buy/trade for established SP'ing + catchers.

 

Using high picks chasing those elusive Ace pitchers and starting catchers is a risky game.

 

 

Interesting note - Martin's been more valuable than Yadi over the course of his career, yet Yadi is likely a HOFer and seemingly renowned as this generational talent who's larger than the game. Makes me want to puke. Cannot watch the Cards on Sunday Night Baseball.

[L54]

I would like more than a serviceable back up. How about a young stud who backs up for a season

 

Sure, I just don't have much faith in any catcher becoming a stud. It would be nice to have a serviceable back up who becomes a decent regular I'll agree with that.

 

Even if Danny Jansen became a good back up catcher that would be a developmental win in my eyes.

[THANOS]

Let's maybe slow down for a second. He's only 22, he's a catcher, and his career had been slowed down due to injuries. This is his first time performing at a very high level against good competition; there's no need to rush, especially if the team believes he can be an asset. With Russell Martin healthy for the time being, there's no need to potentially stunt Jansen's development by being needlessly aggressive. Martin's not going anywhere any time soon, there's plenty of time for him to give him advice in Spring Training or during the offseason. I'm not against a September call-up if he keeps tearing up AA for an extended period of time, but it's only been 81 PA, we should wait and see how his power, plate discipline and bat control skills continue to develop and adjust as he spends longer playing against tougher competition than he's ever seen before.

 

Good points and fair lol. I'm just getting super excited to see his peripherals actually improve with the call-up to AA. A catcher who doesn't strikeout, walks at a decent clip, hits for a high AVG and looks like he could hit 15-25 HRs at this pace is not something we've really had, ever lol.

 

I also thought he was 24. Is 22 the avg age for AA?

[Boxcar]

Good points and fair lol. I'm just getting super excited to see his peripherals actually improve with the call-up to AA. A catcher who doesn't strikeout, walks at a decent clip, hits for a high AVG and looks like he could hit 15-25 HRs at this pace is not something we've really had, ever lol.

 

I also thought he was 24. Is 22 the avg age for AA?

 

Easy way to remember:

 

Rookie/SS ball: 19

A: 20

A+: 21

AA: 22

 

E: As a general rule, obviously.

[THANOS]

Easy way to remember:

 

Rookie/SS ball: 19

A: 20

A+: 21

AA: 22

 

E: As a general rule, obviously.

 

Thanks man. Good to know.

[Ray]

I don't know man. A large % of drafted catchers end up going bust (much like QB's and top line SP'ing). I prefer the Cubs model where they draft position players with a much higher chance of reaching their potential. Use your $ or your prospects to buy/trade for established SP'ing + catchers.

 

Using high picks chasing those elusive Ace pitchers and starting catchers is a risky game.

 

Well, unless the catcher is Kyle Schwarber who's upside is sky high, I wouldn't either.

[Orgfiller]

Good points and fair lol. I'm just getting super excited to see his peripherals actually improve with the call-up to AA. A catcher who doesn't strikeout, walks at a decent clip, hits for a high AVG and looks like he could hit 15-25 HRs at this pace is not something we've really had, ever lol.

 

I also thought he was 24. Is 22 the avg age for AA?

 

You're probably thinking of Pentecost who is 24 in A+, but obviously he also suffered substantial injuries.

[John_Havok]

From BA prospect chat today:

 

Satchel (Las Vegas): How high does Bichette climb this year? Does he make it to AA and finish in AA....then start in AAA in 2018 for potential call up in 18?

 

J.J. Cooper: No. No. No. That’s an unrealistic timetable, one that doesn’t really make any sense. Mike Trout is the best high school draft pick to reach the big leagues in the past 25 years. Trout split his first full year between low Class A and high Class A. He went to Double-A the next year and struggled in a promotion to the big leagues. After a brief stint in Triple-A the next year, he was ready to be a star. Bichette may make it to high Class A this year. He may make it to Double-A next year. That would be putting him on a very fast track, but putting a late 2018 timetable on Bichette is asking too much.

 

Nick (LA): What kind of prospect is Bichette at this point. You could argue based on stats that he's a top 10 hitting prospect but o keep hearing concerns that his swing may get exposed as he moves up levels. Vlad Jr on the same team isn't putting up the same stats as Bichette (though still great stats) but seems to be the consensus better prospect. Is that a physical projection thing or something else? Thanks

 

J.J. Cooper: It’s physical projection and the swing. Scouts who see Vlad Jr. come away raving about how he’s the best prospect they’ve seen in several years. Scouts see Bichette going 3-for-5 on the same team and say “he’s a good prospect, I worry about his swing.”

 

Clutchlings (Wasaga Beach, Ontario): The Blue Jays have stated that they wanted Bichette and Guerrero to spend a whole season at Low A. Both had a list of things to work on. Bichette's glove may not be his best tool, but can they keep him in the Midwest League for long?

 

J.J. Cooper: They definitely can. He’s showing no signs of stagnation yet and he’s not age inappropriate for the league.

 

Andrew (Los Angeles): Hows does Tatis Jr stack up as a prospect against Vlad Jr and Bichette?

 

J.J. Cooper: He’s good, but there are very few prospects I’d put in the same conversation with Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

[John_Havok]

Bo was also ranked #1 this week on their Prospect Hot Sheet.

 

1. Bo Bichette, ss, Blue Jays (19)

Low Class A Lansing (Midwest)

 

As we near the Midwest League all-star break, Bichette raised his average to an even .400 by hitting .520 this week. This is remarkable because the MWL’s conditions—cold weather and pitcher’s parks—ensure that the batting champ usually hits about .325. Bichette could go 0-for-31 and would still be hitting over .350.

 

The last MWL hitter to top .360 in the league was Mike Trout, who hit .362 in 2010. The last hitter to top .370 was Ben Revere, who hit .379 in 2008. In other words, Bichette is putting himself in good company.

[Deadpool]

Bo was also ranked #1 this week on their Prospect Hot Sheet.

 

1. Bo Bichette, ss, Blue Jays (19)

Low Class A Lansing (Midwest)

 

As we near the Midwest League all-star break, Bichette raised his average to an even .400 by hitting .520 this week. This is remarkable because the MWL’s conditions—cold weather and pitcher’s parks—ensure that the batting champ usually hits about .325. Bichette could go 0-for-31 and would still be hitting over .350.

 

The last MWL hitter to top .360 in the league was Mike Trout, who hit .362 in 2010. The last hitter to top .370 was Ben Revere, who hit .379 in 2008. In other words, Bichette is putting himself in good company.

 

So, Bichette is the next Ben Revere, eh?

[John_Havok]

So, Bichette is the next Ben Revere, eh?

 

Next Trout or Revere. No middle ground.

[Stoneyen]

The fact that Bo can be putting up ridiculous numbers like this, yet every single scout still comes away raving about Vlad Jr. just gets me irrationally excited about Vlad. He's gonna be a monster hitter

[John_Havok]

The fact that Bo can be putting up ridiculous numbers like this, yet every single scout still comes away raving about Vlad Jr. just gets me irrationally excited about Vlad. He's gonna be a monster hitter

 

The thing is, Vlad is putting up pretty monstrous numbers himself as an 18 year old. Bichette's numbers are just on another planet

[burlingtonbandit]

The thing is, Vlad is putting up pretty monstrous numbers himself as an 18 year old. Bichette's numbers are just on another planet

 

Its weird because the results show a different hitter than I think what we all expected. He's barely struck out, had a great eye and isn't hitting for much power despite the reports of the 70 grade raw.

 

Where as I think everyone thought he was going to be hitting moonshots and swinging at everything because of his dad.

[Boxcar]

So, Bichette is the next Ben Revere, eh?

 

lmfao. Bichette is right up there with Trout and Revere.

 

So I guess that is supposed to mean is that he's either a star or he'll be out of baseball by 27.

[Stoneyen]

Update:

Bo 2-3 2B SB

Vlad 2-3 2B