Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[John_Havok]

I see what you did there.

 

It was the headline's fault, I just copied it. I nearly choked when I read it

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

When does Vancover fire up?

 

Do we know who will be there when they finally do?

[burlingtonbandit]

Lol it seems like Pompey is allergic to power in Buffalo. He has decent ISO rates just about everywhere else in his career but in AAA its in the .70- .80 range

[mikebel111]

Harris suspended for PEDs.

 

http://m.milb.com/news/article/20160520179234674/blue_jays_harris_among_four_suspended

 

 

 

 

Don't worry, it's not the good Harris

 

 

Oh gosh. You really scared me for a second!

 

 

In other news, Alford in his last 5 games is hitting closer to what we expect.

.286 average

2 doubles

K%: 19% (still not ideal but this is an improvement

 

 

Very small size but hey its good to be optimistic😉

[mikebel111]

I honestly dont expect too much power though it would be nice. As long as he gets on base at a good clip, I am happy with that.

[John_Havok]

When does Vancover fire up?

 

Do we know who will be there when they finally do?

 

The short season leagues don't start until after the amateur draft in June. June 17th is their first game this year.

 

To your second question.... no not really. They'll get a few guys from Bluefield and maybe the GCL from last year, a couple of international FAs, and a few holdover from last year but the majority will be newer college age draftees from this year's draft

[mikebel111]

I honestly dont expect too much power though it would be nice. As long as he gets on base at a good clip, I am happy with that.

 

 

This was meant towards Pompey.

[Cyborg]

Rios with 7 K and 1 BB in 7 IP, also 9 H and 3 ER if you care about that stuff. Another great start in my books.

Urena with his 4th HR of the season.

Travis 1 for 4.

Pentecost 0 for 3 with a BB, SB, and 2 R.

Dwight Smith had 2 HR tonight.

[Angrioter]

Rios with 7 K and 1 BB in 7 IP, also 9 H and 3 ER if you care about that stuff. Another great start in my books.

Urena with his 4th HR of the season.

Travis 1 for 4.

Pentecost 0 for 3 with a BB, SB, and 2 R.

Dwight Smith had 2 HR tonight.

 

Dwight Smith is so f***ing inconsistent

[Jimcanuck]

I honestly dont expect too much power though it would be nice. As long as he gets on base at a good clip, I am happy with that.

 

The corporate line is Pompey was sent down to work on his D, his routes to the ball were poor. Zeke takes s***** routes too, yet apparently Zeke > Pompey

[Krylian]

Rios with 7 K and 1 BB in 7 IP, also 9 H and 3 ER if you care about that stuff. Another great start in my books.

Urena with his 4th HR of the season.

Travis 1 for 4.

Pentecost 0 for 3 with a BB, SB, and 2 R.

Dwight Smith had 2 HR tonight.

 

Is 7 innings, with 12k, and 0bb a great start if you give up 15h (4hr), and 8 er?

 

I understand that's hits and er don't give that much statistical value on their own, but can they be ignored completely? I'd think giving up that many hits and some homers would cue you look dig a little deeper into why? Just trying to understand why those 2 stats you're completely discounting... Or maybe i misinterpreted your comment. I'm curious if the 9 hits were hard hit, or a bunch of grounders and bloopers.

[Laika]

Is 7 innings, with 12k, and 0bb a great start if you give up 15h (4hr), and 8 er?

 

I understand that's hits and er don't give that much statistical value on their own, but can they be ignored completely? I'd think giving up that many hits and some homers would cue you look dig a little deeper into why? Just trying to understand why those 2 stats you're completely discounting... Or maybe i misinterpreted your comment. I'm curious if the 9 hits were hard hit, or a bunch of grounders and bloopers.

 

utterly meaningless in any minor league game

 

a guy would have to have a H+ER tendency for multiple minor league seasons before you should care about it at all

[Laika]

Jon Harris

 

4 IP, 7 K, 0 BB, 0 HR, 0 runs.

 

ERA now down to like 0.01

[Angrioter]

Jon Harris

 

4 IP, 7 K, 0 BB, 0 HR, 0 runs.

 

ERA now down to like 0.01

 

Radical change?

 

Could you appoint someone who has gone from horrible to elite really soon?

[Laika]

Radical change?

 

Could you appoint someone who has gone from horrible to elite really soon?

 

It's a low minors prospect. Radical development is kind of what you hope for with all of them.

 

But really people were just overreacting to a tiny 2015 sample size. Recency bias (Jenkins and Deck) had a part too.

[THANOS]

Jon Harris

 

4 IP, 7 K, 0 BB, 0 HR, 0 runs.

 

ERA now down to like 0.01

 

6 IP, 10 K, 1 BB, 0 HR, 0 runs, 2 H

 

Only 69 pitches so far.

[Angrioter]

6 IP, 10 K, 1 BB, 0 HR, 0 runs

 

Only 69 pitches so far.

 

Great.... JH bandwagon baby!!

[Laika]

Harris might have more K's the last two games than Greene has all season, lol.

[THANOS]

Great.... JH bandwagon baby!!

 

It must be a pitch selection adjustment or something?

[THANOS]

Harris might have more K's the last two games than Greene has all season, lol.

 

lol Pretty sad when you have a fastball like Greene.

[THANOS]

7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 11 K, 1 BB

 

84 Pitches so far

[mikebel111]

2 straight dominant outings. Might pitch another inning maybe with only 83 pitches.

I know people were saying he hasnt been good before these 2 starts which I dont agree with. Yeah sure his K's were down but aside from that and his 1st disaster start, he has been very solid so far.

 

Maybe you guys can help me out, but are there some underlying stats that I am not aware that were not going in Harris's favor? It just seems odd the way that strikeouts are being emphasized as a way to determine the quality of a pitcher.

Not complaining, just friendly answers.

[Laika]

2 straight dominant outings. Might pitch another inning maybe with only 83 pitches.

I know people were saying he hasnt been good before these 2 starts which I dont agree with. Yeah sure his K's were down but aside from that and his 1st disaster start, he has been very solid so far.

 

Maybe you guys can help me out, but are there some underlying stats that I am not aware that were not going in Harris's favor? It just seems odd the way that strikeouts are being emphasized as a way to determine the quality of a pitcher.

Not complaining, just friendly answers.

 

Last year his BB rate was terrible and hi K rate was also not very good. He was legitimately bad and his results sucked too.

 

This year his results (ERA) were decent through a handful of outings but the K rate was still not there so people weren't buying it. The development here is basically the huge spike in K rate. Well more specifically, K-BB differential or K-BB%.

[THANOS]

2 straight dominant outings. Might pitch another inning maybe with only 83 pitches.

I know people were saying he hasnt been good before these 2 starts which I dont agree with. Yeah sure his K's were down but aside from that and his 1st disaster start, he has been very solid so far.

 

Maybe you guys can help me out, but are there some underlying stats that I am not aware that were not going in Harris's favor? It just seems odd the way that strikeouts are being emphasized as a way to determine the quality of a pitcher.

Not complaining, just friendly answers.

 

High strikeouts, low walks, and low hard contact % are all things pitchers can control. They remove fielding and luck from the equation. That's why we're so hyped from the strikeout tick.

[THANOS]

They took him out after 84 pitches, so his final line is:

 

7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 11 K, 1 BB

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

They took him out after 84 pitches, so his final line is:

 

7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 11 K, 1 BB

 

f*** you Thor, we got Dirty Harris!!!

 

" Are you Feeling Lucky Punk"

[Iggy]

Harris has not given up an ER since his first start of the year on April 9

 

I can remember so many posters writing him off as bust after 2015's short season and his first start of this year

[Cyborg]

Is 7 innings, with 12k, and 0bb a great start if you give up 15h (4hr), and 8 er?

 

I understand that's hits and er don't give that much statistical value on their own, but can they be ignored completely? I'd think giving up that many hits and some homers would cue you look dig a little deeper into why? Just trying to understand why those 2 stats you're completely discounting... Or maybe i misinterpreted your comment. I'm curious if the 9 hits were hard hit, or a bunch of grounders and bloopers.

 

Well really K% is more important than K/9 so the hits do matter because it lowers K%. Hits should just be treated as a ball in play, the same as an out. A ball in play is a negative outcome for a pitcher.

[Cyborg]

2 straight dominant outings. Might pitch another inning maybe with only 83 pitches.

I know people were saying he hasnt been good before these 2 starts which I dont agree with. Yeah sure his K's were down but aside from that and his 1st disaster start, he has been very solid so far.

 

Maybe you guys can help me out, but are there some underlying stats that I am not aware that were not going in Harris's favor? It just seems odd the way that strikeouts are being emphasized as a way to determine the quality of a pitcher.

Not complaining, just friendly answers.

 

Pretty much the only thing that matters for a minor league pitcher is K-BB%. Only other thing that matters is GB% to see if they might have some ball in play quality skill (either high GB or high FB is good).

 

Harris was awful until his last start.

[Krylian]

Any reports on Harris's velocity?