Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Angrioter]

Looks like milb.Com did away with the scoreboard by team thing they had last year where you could see all the scores for any teams affiliates on 1 page.

 

Too bad, that's was very useful

 

To much weed bro

[Cyborg]

Looks like milb.Com did away with the scoreboard by team thing they had last year where you could see all the scores for any teams affiliates on 1 page.

 

Too bad, that's was very useful

It' still there. I prefer this anyways: http://mlbfarm.com/index.php?team=TOR

[John_Havok]

It's still there in the exact same spot..

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http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?sid=milb&org=141&ymd=20160413

 

Tom Robson just got rocked for 0.2 IP 2H 7R (2ER) 4BB 0K

 

Weird, maybe it was just my tablet that doesnt't see the full site

[Trouba95]

So is Harris already in bust territory or what?

[KingKat]

So is Harris a bust or what?

 

Considering the fact that most prospects are busts even many of the ones who are younger and play a lot better, you'd definitely put your money on bust.

[Krylian]

Weird, maybe it was just my tablet that doesnt't see the full site

 

The mobile version of the site doesn't have that option. You have to disable the mobile site and view it in Full Website mode and then you should be able to access it.

[Slade]

Is Adonys Cardona still considered a good prospect? I remember at one point he was throwing 99MPH, but he could never command it. Have they moved him into the bullpen permanently?

[King]

Is Adonys Cardona still considered a good prospect? I remember at one point he was throwing 99MPH, but he could never command it. Have they moved him into the bullpen permanently?

 

He used to be an intriguing prospect but hasn't progressed due to lots of arm injuries.

 

http://i.imgur.com/AlmDDY3.png

[nmrch]

So is Harris already in bust territory or what?

 

nothing is certain with these things but yes Harris a bust.

[King]

Well let's see how he does tonight. Last time out it was very cold

[Nafro]

I bet you said that about Deck McGuire too.

 

That didn't work, that was supposed to be a Reply with quote to NMRCH

[King]

Borucki 5IP 4H 0ER 1BB 2K

Cardona 1IP 2H 0ER 0BB 2K

 

Jansen 0/3. Urena, Alford not playing

 

 

Tellez 1/3 with a double

 

 

and...

 

Harris about to take the mound

 

1IP 1H 0ER 0BB 2K (1 wild pitch + 1 hit by pitch). Fastball 92 to 94. The hbp was a 92 MPH fastball that got away.

 

Bowling Green Bottom of the 1st

• Jake Cronenworth singles on a ground ball to center fielder Lane Thomas.
  
• Peter Maris III pops out to second baseman Gunnar Heidt.
  
• Joe McCarthy hit by pitch. Jake Cronenworth to 2nd.
  
• Kevin Padlo strikes out swinging.
  
• With Brett Sullivan batting, wild pitch by Jon Harris, Jake Cronenworth to 3rd. Joe McCarthy to 2nd.
  
• Brett Sullivan strikes out swinging, catcher Ryan Hissey to first baseman Justin Atkinson.
  

 

2IP 2H 0ER 0BB 2K

 

Bowling Green Bottom of the 2nd

• Manny Sanchez lines out to second baseman Gunnar Heidt.
  
• Michael Russell flies out to center fielder Lane Thomas.
  
• Zacrey Law singles on a ground ball to shortstop J. C. Cardenas.
  
• With Angel Moreno batting, Zacrey Law steals (1) 2nd base.
  
• Angel Moreno reaches on a fielder's choice out, catcher Ryan Hissey to third baseman Aaron Attaway. Zacrey Law out at home. Missed catch error by first baseman Justin Atkinson.
  

It's now raining.

 

Edited April 15, 2016 by King

[Nafro]

Hey maybe not even a year into your professional career is too early to label someone a bust. Some people just have to try to be the first to say things like that so they can say "see I told you he would never succeed".

[Angrioter]

Hey maybe not even a year into your professional career is too early to label someone a bust. Some people just have to try to be the first to say things like that so they can say "see I told you he would never succeed".

 

 

Plus pitches - no

Pitchability - no

Command - no

Results - no

[burlingtonbandit]

Plus pitches - no

Pitchability - no

Command - no

Results - no

 

Good FO and Development track record- Yes.

[Angrioter]

Good FO and Development track record- Yes.

 

Deck McGuire, Rosie O'Donnell Jenkins, DJ Davis, Jake Anderson,..... Harris could be the next one

[KingKat]

Hey maybe not even a year into your professional career is too early to label someone a bust. Some people just have to try to be the first to say things like that so they can say "see I told you he would never succeed".

 

Given the rate at which prospects busts, it is perfectly reasonable to assume this guy will bust until he actually shows something. Yes he only has one year of pro ball but he's a college guy. He should be cruising through the low minors and he's getting crushed by younger competition. Harris was small school guy so his college performance was less reliable than most. Add a terrible MiLB record to that and it's not a stretch to think that there's just nothing there.

[Laika]

Important to realize with Harris that as a 29th overall pick, there shouldn't be some long assumption that he's good. He doesn't "deserve" two years of rope. He's *basically* a 2nd rounder. Guys taken in his range of the draft fail to make the big leagues at like a 96% clip (I don't actually know the % but I imagine it's close to that).

 

SO!

 

- It's not irresponsible to assume that he's a bust already

- You shouldn't be upset if he is a bust, because he wasn't taken that high... this isn't Deck McGuire at 11th overall

 

Sure, they should have picked Cody Ponce or Austin Riley or whoever... but it's the MLB draft.

[burlingtonbandit]

Deck McGuire, Rosie O'Donnell Jenkins, DJ Davis, Jake Anderson,..... Harris could be the next one

 

Well Atkins is in charge now. Sounds like they will be doing some new stuff for the minors that should help players even more.

[Angrioter]

Well Atkins is in charge now. Sounds like they will be doing some new stuff for the minors that should help players even more.

New strategy is: College bats instead injury arms or HS arms.

[Boxcar]

Important to realize with Harris that as a 29th overall pick, there shouldn't be some long assumption that he's good. He doesn't "deserve" two years of rope. He's *basically* a 2nd rounder. Guys taken in his range of the draft fail to make the big leagues at like a 96% clip (I don't actually know the % but I imagine it's close to that).

 

SO!

 

- It's not irresponsible to assume that he's a bust already

- You shouldn't be upset if he is a bust, because he wasn't taken that high... this isn't Deck McGuire at 11th overall

 

Sure, they should have picked Cody Ponce or Austin Riley or whoever... but it's the MLB draft.

 

I can't tell if Cody Ponce has an unfortunate name or not. Chances are, kids have no idea what a ponce is but I would tease the s*** out of it.

[Angrioter]

Francisco Rios 4IP, walk, 8 K's

[King]

Francisco Rios 4IP, walk, 8 K's

 

New legit guy

[Krylian]

Are there any sites that have minor league velocity numbers. Everything is tracked nowadays, kinda surprised if there isn't something out there.

[Slade]

He used to be an intriguing prospect but hasn't progressed due to lots of arm injuries.

 

http://i.imgur.com/AlmDDY3.png

 

Yikes 85 IP in 5 years, that's horrible. I see he's still young but right now not much hope there.

[metafour]

New strategy is: College bats instead injury arms or HS arms.

 

They picked 3 HS pitchers within the first 60 picks last year, one of whom was injured LOL.

[King]

Are there any sites that have minor league velocity numbers. Everything is tracked nowadays, kinda surprised if there isn't something out there.

 

Rios sits 90-92 I've heard if that's what you are wondering.

 

And no there isn't

[Krylian]

Rios sits 90-92 I've heard if that's what you are wondering.

 

And no there isn't

 

Thanks. But I was wondering more in general terms. Searching through Twitter isn't the best use of time I'm sure.

[nmrch]

Good FO and Development track record- Yes.

 

A good front office and player development make can a difference on the margins but it probably can't help guys like Harris, an old college pitcher who doesn't have great raw stuff and isn't producing results despite the advanced experience.

 

I know you're not saying that but this is gonna be a trend among fans if Sanchez continues to do well. We'll ignore everything we know about prospects and just use Sanchez to criticize sceptics of prospects who never produce results.

Edited April 16, 2016 by nmrch

[nmrch]

Hey maybe not even a year into your professional career is too early to label someone a bust. Some people just have to try to be the first to say things like that so they can say "see I told you he would never succeed".

 

We all want to see Jays prospects succeed but you can learn a lot about someone's potential from what looks like a small sample size. LIke others have said, unless you have an exceptional pedigree, you've got to produce results right away to be the guy that overcomes the odds.