MagicMike Verified Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Who do you have to win? How much will Donaldson struggle in the second half after the HR derby? http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2015/index.jsp?content=asg_hrderby
reedjohnsonfan Verified Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Here are the betting odds on Sports Interaction: Pujols +450 Bryant +475 Fielder +475 Frazier +500 Pederson +500 Rizzo +650 Donaldson +650 Machado +900 I am going to pick Rizzo at those odds.
canadiansportsjunkie Verified Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I'd like to see Bryant win it
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I'd like to see Bryant win it He will. If Pederson beats him out he'll win it.
LTR Verified Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 How much will Donaldson struggle in the second half after the HR derby? I'm preparing an analysis on this very thing... will post shortly
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I'm going with mother nature
jaysfan2014 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 This HR Derby is going to get postponed to Tuesday(with the ASG moving to Wednesday). The forecast isn't promising for tonight in Cincy.
LTR Verified Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Taking into account the 2 finalists in the last 10 HR derby's (20 players), there has been a 6.2% drop in offensive performance (wRC+) in their 2nd half. Compare that to the league average performance drop in the 2nd half during those 10 years (4.1%), that's an additional drop-off of 2.1%. Nothing significant. It's worth noting that Ryan Howard had a mammoth 2nd half in 2006 which is skewing the data a little, and Bautista was injured soon after the event in 2012. Raw: Player (year) 1st half 2nd half Diff Frazier (2014) 138 97 -29.8% Cespedes (2014) 109 110 0.7% Harper (2013) 146 129 -12.4% Cespedes (2013) 95 112 12.4% Fielder (2012) 135 173 27.6% Bautista (2012) 141 80 -44.4% Cano (2011) 129 138 6.5% Gonzalez (2011) 168 137 -22.6% Ortiz (2010) 145 123 -16.0% Ramirez (2010) 129 123 -4.4% Fielder (2009) 174 146 -20.4% Cruz (2009) 115 111 -2.9% Morneau (2008) 138 114 -17.5% Hamilton (2008) 136 125 -8.0% Guerraro (2007) 144 141 -2.2% Rios (2007) 124 120 -2.9% Howard (2006) 125 202 56.0% Wright (2006) 145 112 -24.0% Rodriguez (2005) 165 183 13.1% Abreu (2005) 148 103 -32.7% Total/Avg 137.5 129.0 -6.2% League (2005-2014) 98 94 -4.1%
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Taking into account the 2 finalists in the last 10 HR derby's (20 players), there has been a 6.2% drop in offensive performance (wRC+) in their 2nd half. Compare that to the league average performance drop in the 2nd half during those 10 years (4.1%), that's an additional drop-off of 2.1%. Nothing significant. It's worth noting that Ryan Howard had a mammoth 2nd half in 2006 which is skewing the data a little, and Bautista was injured soon after the event in 2012. Raw: Player (year) 1st half 2nd half Diff Frazier (2014) 138 97 -29.8% Cespedes (2014) 109 110 0.7% Harper (2013) 146 129 -12.4% Cespedes (2013) 95 112 12.4% Fielder (2012) 135 173 27.6% Bautista (2012) 141 80 -44.4% Cano (2011) 129 138 6.5% Gonzalez (2011) 168 137 -22.6% Ortiz (2010) 145 123 -16.0% Ramirez (2010) 129 123 -4.4% Fielder (2009) 174 146 -20.4% Cruz (2009) 115 111 -2.9% Morneau (2008) 138 114 -17.5% Hamilton (2008) 136 125 -8.0% Guerraro (2007) 144 141 -2.2% Rios (2007) 124 120 -2.9% Howard (2006) 125 202 56.0% Wright (2006) 145 112 -24.0% Rodriguez (2005) 165 183 13.1% Abreu (2005) 148 103 -32.7% Total/Avg 137.5 129.0 -6.2% League (2005-2014) 98 94 -4.1% So, basically, just random noise.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I'd take Pederson, not that I'll be watching it.
Horses Fart Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Pederson for the win but who hits the longest?
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 anyone have a high def stream? can't believe that mlb.tv still doesn't show the HR derby
BlueBirdBro Verified Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Pujols. Vets over kids this time.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I think Donaldson will take it
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 So, basically, just random noise. Yes.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 Taking into account the 2 finalists in the last 10 HR derby's (20 players), there has been a 6.2% drop in offensive performance (wRC+) in their 2nd half. Compare that to the league average performance drop in the 2nd half during those 10 years (4.1%), that's an additional drop-off of 2.1%. Nothing significant. It's worth noting that Ryan Howard had a mammoth 2nd half in 2006 which is skewing the data a little, and Bautista was injured soon after the event in 2012. Did you adjust for HR/FB% and BABIP? A lot of these slumps could really just be BABIP and HRFB normalizing.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 So, basically, just random noise. the one stat that jays fans think about it is Bautista (2012) 141 80 -44.4% which is the worst on that list. just because he had a bad second half that year doesn't mean that it is a thing. wasn't that the year he hurt the tendon in his wrist?
GD Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 the one stat that jays fans think about it is Bautista (2012) 141 80 -44.4% which is the worst on that list. just because he had a bad second half that year doesn't mean that it is a thing. wasn't that the year he hurt the tendon in his wrist? Yes, I believe so.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 stream please? I have one but it's really not very good.
S33n Verified Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 MLB.tv giving a great big thank you to it's subscribers by not streaming the homerun derby? edit: NVM, I think it's streaming on the front page of MLB.com
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 MLB.tv giving a great big thank you to it's subscribers by not streaming the homerun derby? terrible
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 not a good stream... but it works... looking for better http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/www.ibrodtv.net/ibrodtv3.html
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 MLB.tv giving a great big thank you to it's subscribers by not streaming the homerun derby? Maybe on TSN as they're airing it no?
reedjohnsonfan Verified Member Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 I'd take Pederson, not that I'll be watching it. Yeah I get excited for it then get bored after an hour. Hopefully the new rules will make it more interesting.
S33n Verified Member Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/38304112/v241916283/live-gillette-hrd-presented-by-head-shoulders I'm waiting to see if this works..
CJ-Freeway Old-Timey Member Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 not a good stream... but it works... looking for better http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/www.ibrodtv.net/ibrodtv3.html http://goatd.net/108910/watch-2015-home-run-derby
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