2015 Trade Value week...

[TheHurl]

The issue is with where Frazier was ranked moreso than Gomes.

 

I think said he is only one of two 2017 FA's on the list though (Lucroy being the other)They have obviously given more weight to years of control than they have in the past. He would be an interesting guy in the trade market...much like Gomes I don't think he would ever return what he is actually worth.

[BTS]

Gomes is under team control for 6.5 more years. Frazier for 1.5. I take Gomes, and it's not close.

[TheHurl]

Gomes is under team control for 6.5 more years. Frazier for 1.5. I take Gomes, and it's not close.

 

2.5 for Frazier actually.

[BTS]

2.5 for Frazier actually.

 

Ah, he's arb-eligible after his current deal. Seems like he's been around longer that that though. Still though, Gomes is on such a sweet deal. Cheap 3+ win catcher for 6.5 years.

[TheHurl]

30 to 21 up. Thor at 22 sandwiched by a couple pretty good Marlins.

 

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[Boxcar]

RA Dickey top 20?

[Orgfiller]

RA Dickey top 20?

 

I can't see any scenario where Aaron Sanchez isn't in the top 20.

[GD]

I can't see any scenario where Aaron Sanchez isn't in the top 20.

 

He's right where Noah Syndergaard is in his development.

[Spanky__99]

30 to 21 up. Thor at 22 sandwiched by a couple pretty good Marlins.

 

A tear drops...

[TheHurl]

Prepare for the outrage

 

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The most common complaint leveled against this exercise is that I discount present value too heavily and put too much emphasis on contract cost and years of control. For a significant portion of our readers, I realize that trade value is mostly interpreted as the short-term performance a player offers, with the long-term production and cost being a secondary point of diminished importance. And because hardly anyone on this list ever gets traded, this exercise is almost entirely hypothetical, and neither side can really prove their case one way or another.

 

But Josh Donaldson was traded last winter, and he was traded for a package that was perceived to be way less than what a player like Donaldson should command. And even as the guy who most often argues for building teams through depth rather than paying premium prices for a few stars, I have to admit that the Donaldson return seemed light. In fact, the Donaldson trade — which brought back four players who weren’t even remotely considered for placement in this year’s series — was perhaps the most obvious quality-for-quantity (both in terms of individual players and years of control) trade we’ve seen in a while, given that he wasn’t traded under any kind of duress; the A’s clearly could have kept him for 2015 if they chose to do so, but they decided they’d rather have four quarters than a single dollar bill.

 

But I bet that if the A’s had a chance to hit the undo button on that deal, they would do so, even with a pretty decent half-season from Kendall Gravemen and Franklin Barreto looking pretty solid in the Cal League. While I’m probably more in agreement with the A’s depth-over-stars approach to roster construction than most, even from my perspective, that deal looks like a mistake. So rather than suggesting that the off-season trade is some supporting evidence for my argument that enough quantity can substitute for quality, I think the more realistic conclusion here is that the A’s underestimated Donaldson, and the Blue Jays came out the better for it. If this really was the market price for star players, then I think we’d see guys on this list move more often.

[Boxcar]

How in the sweet f*** is Corey Kluber less valuable than Madison Bumgarner?

[Boxcar]

So Dave Cameron overvalues contract length and cost, which somehow leads him to rank Kluber, who is undeniably a better pitcher on a better contract over a longer term, behind MadBum.

 

Does this guy have any direction? He's so all over the place. Kind of annoying that someone pays him for this crap.

[GD]

This list is awful and if you comment otherwise you will get downvoted

[Spanky__99]

Prepare for the outrage

 

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lol

[Spanky__99]

I'm surprised at how low Fernandez is, dumn.

[L54]

This list is awful and if you comment otherwise you will get downvoted

 

Oh no, not downvoted!!

 

Speak your mind GD, and f*** the haterz.

[TheHurl]

So Dave Cameron overvalues contract length and cost, which somehow leads him to rank Kluber, who is undeniably a better pitcher on a better contract over a longer term, behind MadBum.

 

Does this guy have any direction? He's so all over the place. Kind of annoying that someone pays him for this crap.

 

Age is a thing. But overall it appears that this list is taking the ZIPS 5 year projections vs. salary a little too literally.

[TwistedLogic]

I was going to complain about Posey over DeGrom (and I'd probably still put DeGrom higher), but I realized that even after this year, the Giants will have a 28 year old Posey on a 6/130 contract. What a great extension.

[baubau]

I know its minor but I would easily have Pederson over Betts. I know they've both are nearly identical this season in terms of WAR so far but just preference. I would also have Kluber higher but you guys already beat the horse on that.

[GD]

No Lorenzo Cain. No AJ Pollock. Charlie Blackmon, JD Martinez. Lulzy list.

[GD]

Those guys don't all deserve to be on though, let's not go overboard.

 

They're more valuable than Joe Panik, lol.

[reedjohnsonfan]

They're more valuable than Joe Panik, lol.

 

Looks like he's heavily favouring younger players. Panik is 24, Cain and Blackmon are 29-30. Actually it looks like Panik might be quite a bit more valuable.