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It time AA and useless Gibbons got of their asses and sent Hutch down to learn how to pitch.He is no different than Norris.
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It time AA and useless Gibbons got of their asses and sent Hutch down to learn how to pitch.He is no different than Norris.

 

but....but.....but fip?

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Hutch and Dickey can GTFO. Keep Estrada and Sanchez in. Though Sanchez has had nice luck on his side, they've both earned it. Get at least some semblance of a meritocracy here.
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You guys are dumb. You want a pitcher who has an 8-2 record to be sent down? He's a winner.
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He needs to be sent down. Can't pitch on the road whether he's in a hitter's park or pitcher's park, or whether he's facing a good offense or bad one.
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He needs to be sent down. Can't pitch on the road whether he's in a hitter's park or pitcher's park, or whether he's facing a good offense or bad one.

 

Surprised to see you shortsightedly calling for someone's head

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Surprised to see you shortsightedly calling for someone's head

 

Yes, because his 5.32 FIP on the road is exactly the same as his performance last season. Not a troublesome trend at all.

 

I'd also suggest you look at Hutchison's numbers, especially in the 2nd half of last season, before you foolishly say he's just as good as he was last year.

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In the 2nd half last year he K'd over 10 per 9 and had a K:BB of almost 4

 

Overall, his numbers are pretty similar. Last year he was an above average starter, this year he is an above average starter. He's just the anti-Sanchez and once again we see people placing far too much stock in earned runs.

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Overall, his numbers are pretty similar. Last year he was an above average starter, this year he is an above average starter. He's just the anti-Sanchez and once again we see people placing far too much stock in earned runs.

 

his fastball looks flat compared to last year, and he relies on it way to much this year

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Yes, because his 5.32 FIP on the road is exactly the same as his performance last season. Not a troublesome trend at all.

 

I'd also suggest you look at Hutchison's numbers, especially in the 2nd half of last season, before you foolishly say he's just as good as he was last year.

 

BABIP over .400 (not sustainable)

HR/FB close to 14%

Quality of contact virtually unchanged.

 

Sounds like noise to me.

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If Hutch's road/home splits were remotely similar, I'd actually agree with the Gibby Lover, but the road #'s are worrying.
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his fastball looks flat compared to last year, and he relies on it way to much this year

 

Almost every starting pitcher in baseball relies heavily on their fastball, and Hutchison's has been decent this year.

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Yes, because his 5.32 FIP on the road is exactly the same as his performance last season. Not a troublesome trend at all.

 

I'd also suggest you look at Hutchison's numbers, especially in the 2nd half of last season, before you foolishly say he's just as good as he was last year.

 

Who gives a s*** what his road FIP is, when his actual FIP is 3.69? That means he's compensating for his road struggles by consistently dominating at home. Which means overall, he's an above average starter, and overall, he is very valuable to the Blue Jays major league rotation.

 

Drew Hutchison has been the Jays 2nd best starter this year.

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The BABIP monster

http://ctrlv.cz/shots/2015/07/09/hK4N.png

 

He's giving up harder hit balls more frequently which inflates his babip

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He's giving up harder hit balls more frequently which inflates his babip

 

So how hard opposing batters are hitting his pitches is determined by Drew Hutchison?

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Who gives a s*** what his road FIP is, when his actual FIP is 3.69? That means he's compensating for his road struggles by consistently dominating at home. Which means overall, he's an above average starter, and overall, he is very valuable to the Blue Jays major league rotation.

 

Drew Hutchison has been the Jays 2nd best starter this year.

 

I agree that overall he's been fine (his home numbers are great) but he sucks on the road this season, and it's not flukey bad, it's clearly bad. Maybe it's something that normalizes as the year goes on, but it's shown no signs of improvement even against a s***** offense like the White Sox.

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He's giving up harder hit balls more frequently which inflates his babip

 

You reaaaalllyyy don't get this whole sample size thing.

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Boxy shut this bitch down. Send him down my ass. You guys are unbelievable, Sanchez gets lucky for 5 starts in a row and he's good but Hutch gets unlucky for most of his road starts and he's terrible. No such thing as context or looking beyond the obvious for some of you. Sanchez walks 7 and gives up 1 run ACE start. Hutch walks no one and gives up 5 runs while striking 7 BUM!
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Overall, his numbers are pretty similar. Last year he was an above average starter, this year he is an above average starter. He's just the anti-Sanchez and once again we see people placing far too much stock in earned runs.

 

the topic is Hutchison and you're hating on Sanchez - what has he done to you?

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So how hard opposing batters are hitting his pitches is determined by Drew Hutchison?

 

Not entirely, but leaving flat fastballs and sliders up in the zone doesn't help

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I agree that overall he's been fine (his home numbers are great) but he sucks on the road this season, and it's not flukey bad, it's clearly bad.

 

So what the hell does that even mean? Why do his road starts matter more than his home starts? If his home starts are good enough to create an overall FIP of 3.65, an xFIP of 3.80 and a SIERA of 3.78, how do you justify sending him down? You don't, unless you're an idiot.

 

His OVERALL numbers (the AVERAGE of his home and road stats) are enough to make him a top-40 pitcher in the majors in value. Anyone who advocates sending him down is retarded.

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