Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Author Posted July 2, 2015 DeJong + LaCastro = Aaron Harang
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Wasn't there going to be a change in intl spending anyways? Wasn't that why people were blowing past there limits?
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 1mil is f***ing great Does that allow us to sign guys next year? No, but maybe it'll reduce the penalty to the point where they're only locked for one year, instead of two. Not sure how viable that strategy is, considering the possibility of a potential IFA draft in the future, but I also don't know how soon that might come.
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 38s39 seconds ago #BlueJays receiving between $1 million and $2 million from #Dodgers in the De Jong/Locastro trade.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Author Posted July 2, 2015 Chase DeJong 21 A-ball (8.03 K, 1.88 BB, 0.94 HR)/9 x 86.1 IP = 3.74 FIP
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 38s39 seconds ago #BlueJays receiving between $1 million and $2 million from #Dodgers in the De Jong/Locastro trade. I thought there was a limit to the amount of funds you could acquire? If the Jays can get 2 mil from the Dodgers, then this could be a pretty good thing. Though I hate that they had to give up DeJong.
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 I thought there was a limit to the amount of funds you could acquire? If the Jays can get 2 mil from the Dodgers, then this could be a pretty good thing. Though I hate that they had to give up DeJong. Gideon Turk @gideonturk 41s41 seconds ago Jays can only trade for 50% of their pool, so the most this trade can be for is $1,162,050.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Author Posted July 2, 2015 Jon Morosi #BlueJays receiving between $1 million and $2 million from #Dodgers in the De Jong/Locastro trade.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 is there a deadline to acquire money? Could the Jays still sign someone (say a Cuban who becomes eligible in October) and then in turn trade the Dodgers money and their own?
King Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 12s13 seconds ago #BlueJays motivation for trade with #Dodgers: They gave up two prospects to lessen (or possibly eliminate) tax on Vlad Jr. signing.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Author Posted July 2, 2015 Gideon Turk @gideonturk 41s41 seconds ago Jays can only trade for 50% of their pool, so the most this trade can be for is $1,162,050. Then, Jays will trade Int salary cap for a MLB RP?
fireballW Verified Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 keithlaw @keithlaw now6 seconds ago Blue Jays trade Chase Dejong and Tim Locastro to Dodgers for more international pool money. We will will know 5 years from now if the Jays can make use to get someone better than those prospects in the following years. Dejong isn't nothing but he also is behind a long list of other Jay's pitching prospects. It's good to keep flexibility, never know what opportunities might come up.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 is there a deadline to acquire money? Could the Jays still sign someone (say a Cuban who becomes eligible in October) and then in turn trade the Dodgers money and their own? Yes.
nmrch Verified Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Apparently you can only trade for 50% of your slot, so that would be $2,324,100*.5 bringing our final slot to 3,486,154 That's crazy, that's just enough to stay below the severest of penalties, we'll still have a 300K signing limit next year. This trade hasn't done anything other than save Rogers around 2 million dollars and we've traded away real talent for that, what the ****. Someone please tell me how these numbers are wrong, this is f***ed up, we just traded not completely insignificant prospects just to save Rogers some money. We're still being hit with penalties.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Apparently you can only trade for 50% of your slot, so that would be $2,324,100*.5 bringing our final slot to 3,486,154 That's crazy, that's just enough to stay below the severest of penalties, we'll still have a 300K signing limit next year. This trade hasn't done anything other than save Rogers around 2 million dollars and we've traded away real talent for that, what the ****. Someone please tell me how these numbers are wrong, this is f***ed up, we just traded not completely insignificant prospects just to save Rogers some money. We're still being hit with penalties. It also brings our lockout from 2 years to 1.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Didn't we sign some other guy already too? If we picked up the Max of 50 percent and add it plus 15 percent over we only still have just over 4 mill So unless the other guy signed for 100,000 or less think we f***ed up still in this trade!
nmrch Verified Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 It also brings our lockout from 2 years to 1. but that's nothing, not close to enough for us to trade away real talent, the real motivation is saving Rogers money. If we're giving away players to save a couple of million then what does that say about the upcoming trade deadline.
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 but that's nothing, not close to enough for us to trade away real talent, the real motivation is saving Rogers money. If we're giving away players to save a couple of million then what does that say about the upcoming trade deadline. It's not nothing though. Real talent can be signed in that 2nd year that couldn't be signed otherwise.
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 but that's nothing, not close to enough for us to trade away real talent, the real motivation is saving Rogers money. If we're giving away players to save a couple of million then what does that say about the upcoming trade deadline. Yeah we gave away actual talent for unknown talent, but this talent we gave up didn't crack our top 20 MILB.
metafour Verified Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 but that's nothing How is that nothing LOL? Its the driving force behind the trade. You seriously think we're pinching pennies over a million dollars for Rogers LOL?
bronson44 Verified Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 but that's nothing, not close to enough for us to trade away real talent, the real motivation is saving Rogers money. If we're giving away players to save a couple of million then what does that say about the upcoming trade deadline. Yes the Jays have a budget
nmrch Verified Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 It's not nothing though. Real talent can be signed in that 2nd year that couldn't be signed otherwise. common, let not become Rogers' useful idiots here. If removing that second year restriction is that big of a deal then why go over slot in the first place.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Our Depth in our minors didn't allow them to crack our top twenty! Does not mean they would not make top twenty on other teams, where will they be placed on la's list?
KingKat Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 common, let not become Rogers' useful idiots here. If removing that second year restriction is that big of a deal then why go over slot in the first place. Because clearly they really like Vlad Jr.
bronson44 Verified Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 common, let not become Rogers' useful idiots here. If removing that second year restriction is that big of a deal then why go over slot in the first place. They really liked the player?
nmrch Verified Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 How is that nothing LOL? Its the driving force behind the trade. You seriously think we're pinching pennies over a million dollars for Rogers LOL? Its actually around 3 million dollars, correct me if i'm wrong. What planet are you living on that you think Rogers wouldn't care about that?
metafour Verified Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Its actually around 3 million dollars, correct me if i'm wrong. What planet are you living on that you think Rogers wouldn't care about that? The one in which we're paying $9 million for Maicer Izturis to barely ever play. Rogers is cheap, but they're not that f***ing cheap. This trade was made to reduce penalties to one year instead of two which is a big deal.
nmrch Verified Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 If you guys really think away real talent to remove the 300K restriction two years from now{when there might not even be such a thing as IFA) then have i got a bridge to sell you.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Actually 1.5 to 1.6 ish would have been the penalty for vald jr. So we saved about 3 to 400 thousand, gave up two players we have been developing and paying already ( money lost) and may be able to sign another player of value or that's good in two years. Yup sounds about right, how could this go wrong? Lol f***ing jays, Scrooge McDuck own this team! Lol
HERPDERP Old-Timey Member Posted July 2, 2015 Posted July 2, 2015 Our Depth in our minors didn't allow them to crack our top twenty! Does not mean they would not make top twenty on other teams, where will they be placed on la's list? We have good MILB talent, but not good enough that our +20 guy would be a top 5 elsewhere. That would show more about how pathetic the other team's system is.
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