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I don't see the point of calling up Doubront before the next available start. They need bullpen arms especially if Hutch can't go more then 5-6 innings tonight
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Would EE and Reyes get You Tiajuan and Carson smith ?

 

Would we have to kick in money, say half remaining salary to make it a go? 8 mill ?

 

What would we need added if anything back if we add money?

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Would EE and Reyes get You Tiajuan and Carson smith ?

 

Would we have to kick in money, say half remaining salary to make it a go? 8 mill ?

 

What would we need added if anything back if we add money?

 

Any Reyes trade is going to involve eating a giant lump sum of his ridiculous contract (even if Edwin's contract is still a bargain).

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But would eating money not be acceptable? 8 mill or you think more?

 

This year and moving forward is 8 mill to much? We save 14 mill going forward too!

 

Look who you're talking to. I'd eat his entire salary...

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Hutchison better throw a CG tonight. Don't know who the Jays can count on in the middle innings this weekend with so many guys being used against the Red Sox. Definitely should have waited to call up Doubront.
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Tampa playing New York next

 

YES

 

Dislike. Guarantees one of them will win at least two of the next three games, so if the Jays don't want to fall further behind, they'll have to win or sweep the Tigers series.

 

Wow, Gose has REALLY been struggling with the bat lately. Over last 30 days batting .194/.245/.223 with full playing time.

 

Gose is so terrible. Only a fool would have bought into his early season.

 

Oh and btw, I think you forgot something from your PM's, lol.

 

I don't see the point of calling up Doubront before the next available start. They need bullpen arms especially if Hutch can't go more then 5-6 innings tonight

 

Because if they had Doubront yesterday, they probably would have played him in the first inning and let him get him 5-6IP. If the rotation has another meltdown like Boyd did, Doubront can be used as a very long reliever in that instance.

 

They can't afford another game where they use 6+ arms, they're just about to begin a 10 game road trip, and they're up against a slate of aces who'll likely go deep into games.

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Smoak in the line-up but Martin with ANOTHER day off (!?)... Gibbons going full retard.

 

1. Jose Reyes (S) SS

2. Josh Donaldson ® 3B

3. Jose Bautista ® RF

4. Edwin Encarnacion ® DH

5. Dioner Navarro (S) C

6. Justin Smoak (S) 1B

7. Kevin Pillar ® CF

8. Ezequiel Carrera (L) LF

9. Devon Travis ® 2B

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Navarro and Smoak are both switch hitters.

 

Why is Navarro higher in the lineup than Smoak?

 

Why is Travis lower than Navarro, Pillar and Carrera?

 

Martin only caught two days in a row after back-to-back days off.

 

If Martin can't catch, why is he not the DH?

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Navarro and Smoak are both switch hitters.

 

Why is Navarro higher in the lineup than Smoak?

 

Is this still a topic of conversation?

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Smoak in the line-up but Martin with ANOTHER day off (!?)... Gibbons going full retard.

 

1. Jose Reyes (S) SS

2. Josh Donaldson ® 3B

3. Jose Bautista ® RF

4. Edwin Encarnacion ® DH

5. Dioner Navarro (S) C

6. Justin Smoak (S) 1B

7. Kevin Pillar ® CF

8. Ezequiel Carrera (L) LF

9. Devon Travis ® 2B

 

Lmao told you guys. Looks like Martin is platooning at Catcher with Navarro

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Navarro and Smoak are both switch hitters.

 

Yes, yes they are.

 

Why is Navarro higher in the lineup than Smoak?

 

You already know the answer to this, you just don't want accept it.

 

Why is Travis lower than Navarro, Pillar and Carrera?

 

Because Travis needs to be babied.

 

Martin only caught two days in a row after back-to-back days off.

 

It's an enigma wrapped up in a conundrum.

 

If Martin can't catch, why is he not the DH?

 

Because Gibbons needs to give everyone their fair share of playing time. Making people happy is a priority, winning comes secondary.

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Smoak in the line-up but Martin with ANOTHER day off (!?)... Gibbons going full retard.

 

1. Jose Reyes (S) SS

2. Josh Donaldson ® 3B

3. Jose Bautista ® RF

4. Edwin Encarnacion ® DH

5. Dioner Navarro (S) C

6. Justin Smoak (S) 1B

7. Kevin Pillar ® CF

8. Ezequiel Carrera (L) LF

9. Devon Travis ® 2B

 

you could flip Navarro & Smoak (doesn't really matter), but otherwise this is pretty much the way the lineup should be against a righty and with Martin having a tough game ahead of him catching Dickey tomorrow afternoon.

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you could flip Navarro & Smoak (doesn't really matter), but otherwise this is pretty much the way the lineup should be against a righty and with Martin having a tough game ahead of him catching Dickey tomorrow afternoon.

 

No.

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From May 15 to May 25, the Jays played 11 games. Martin caught 10 of them, with six in a row from the 15th to the 20th.

 

Since June 18, Martin hasn't caught more than two games in a row at any point. In the last 14 days, he's had five days off.

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I know what happened...

 

Gibbons caught Martin with his pants down in the dressing room... Martin has a gigantic penis (genes from his black dad side)... Gibbons has penis envy. Case closed.

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Because John Gibbons personally likes Navarro's bat more. That's literally the reason.

 

Why? Smoak's OPS is 206 points higher than Navarro's. His batting average is 27 points higher. He has three times the RBIs (24 to 8).

 

Even against righties, Smoak's OPS is 111 points higher than Navarro's.

 

What number could Gibbons possibly be looking at that justifies "Navarro > Smoak" in his mind?

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Why? Smoak's OPS is 206 points higher than Navarro's. His batting average is 27 points higher. He has three times the RBIs (24 to 8).

 

Even against righties, Smoak's OPS is 111 points higher than Navarro's.

 

What number could Gibbons possibly be looking at that justifies "Navarro > Smoak" in his mind?

 

Absolutely no idea. North isn't agreeing with it or anything.

 

Probably "clutch." That's my theory. I don't know, I really dislike it.

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Absolutely no idea. North isn't agreeing with it or anything.

 

Probably "clutch." That's my theory. I don't know, I really dislike it.

 

Oh I know.

 

WHY THE f*** IS A GUY WITH A 70 wRC+ HITTING 5TH?

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Oh I know.

 

WHY THE f*** IS A GUY WITH A 70 wRC+ HITTING 5TH?

 

Better question is why the f*** do you keep referencing year-to-date stats over projections or career stats?

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Better question is why the f*** do you keep referencing year-to-date stats over projections or career stats?

 

Even worse you just did a sub-set stat of this for RISP.

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Even worse you just did a sub-set stat of this for RISP.

 

Umm...did you just respond to your own post?

Old-Timey Member
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I used to believe that John Gibbons was a good thing.

 

I now believe that John Gibbons is a bad thing.

 

Welcome to the good side.

 

It's a lot nicer over here.

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Better question is why the f*** do you keep referencing year-to-date stats over projections or career stats?

 

Because those are the numbers that Gibby is probably using. I'm trying to figure out what his reasoning is for his decisions. Do you honestly think Gibby is looking at projections when he sets his lineup?

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