R.I.P. Jose Reyes sucks at baseball thread

[HERPDERP]

I'd love to see you say that to his face! (And see what happens as a result)

 

I'll take the blow and get some portion of that sweet minor league player salary

[Governator]

Has anyone heard of a real update on Bautista? Are they putting him back in RF just for this series for his bat or are they certain he's capable going forward?

[LTR]

Has anyone heard of a real update on Bautista? Are they putting him back in RF just for this series for his bat or are they certain he's capable going forward?

 

I heard he's "not 100%" - Gibbons. But perhaps this is just mindgames, hoping the Nats will hear this and try to run on him? Probably not.

[KingKat]

Pompey slumped badly intially at every level he started. He has a solid approach and he has mental fortitude. He will get over this like and deal with this like he has with lesser setbacks. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's going to be a productive Major Leaguer. That may simply not be in the cards but whatever his potential is, I think there's reason to feel confident he'll turn it around and reach it.

[HERPDERP]

I heard he's "not 100%" - Gibbons. But perhaps this is just mindgames, hoping the Nats will hear this and try to run on him? Probably not.

 

if I were Harper I'd try to stretch a single into a double.

[LTR]

Pompey slumped badly intially at every level he started. He has a solid approach and he has mental fortitude. He will get over this like and deal with this like he has with lesser setbacks. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's going to be a productive Major Leaguer. That may simply not be in the cards but whatever his potential is, I think there's reason to feel confident he'll turn it around and reach it.

 

He seemed so good, when he was going good, I hope he can be good again. He could be really good!

[HERPDERP]

I didn't watch any video of him in the minors, but when he was up with the Jays, he had obvious weaknesses. He acted like a pull hitter. Anything inside was crushed, anything outside was popped up lazily.

 

If I'm the pitcher I'm going to stay away.

[KingKat]

I didn't watch any video of him in the minors, but when he was up with the Jays, he had obvious weaknesses. He acted like a pull hitter. Anything inside was crushed, anything outside was popped up lazily.

 

If I'm the pitcher I'm going to stay away.

 

Pompey reminds me a bit of Bradley Junior in Boston. Good plate discipline, great defense, hit tool might be a question mark. Mind you, I don't think Pompey's minor league OBP is quile as walk fueled as Bradley so he probably has a less extreme skill set. It's a comparison that I can't help but lazzily make but I'd have to go under the hood a little more to see if it's really holds.

[Spanky99]

Reyes suxxxxx

[JohnnyLonghorn]

Jerry Howarth names Reyes as player of the game and gives him credit for turning some nice double plays the past few nights. Wonder if SNET made him say that.

[Spanky99]

Jerry Howarth names Reyes as player of the game and gives him credit for turning some nice double plays the past few nights. Wonder if SNET made him say that.

 

Why would they, he's played well.

[nextyear]

It is great to see that Jose Reyes is earning his salary. JOSE DOES NOT SUCK! (although I wouldn't have said it a week ago).

 

I wonder if a bit of criticism helped Reyes get his head back in the game?

[RealAccountant]

It is great to see that Jose Reyes is earning his salary. JOSE DOES NOT SUCK! (although I wouldn't have said it a week ago).

 

I wonder if a bit of criticism helped Reyes get his head back in the game?

 

Howarth knew what he was doing.

 

He is as wise as yoda.

[JohnnyLonghorn]

Reyes has not only been getting hits hes been getting timely hits. I havent checked the stats but I bet after Collabello he's been our best hitter with RISP this season. I'm still waiting for LTR to retract his statement.

[gbill2004]

Reyes is playing at an elite level now.

[LTR]

It is great to see that Jose Reyes is earning his salary. JOSE DOES NOT SUCK! (although I wouldn't have said it a week ago).

 

I wonder if a bit of criticism helped Reyes get his head back in the game?

 

0.3 WAR - 1/3+ through his $22M season. Yup, earning his salary. #Math

[Nafro]

I would argue that not one baseball player is "worth their salary". Brain surgeons earn their salary.

[BigCecil]

I would argue that not one baseball player is "worth their salary". Brain surgeons earn their salary.

 

Its a business and its all relative to the business of baseball and not brain surgery. The players take what the market will bare. I would do the exact same thing they do for my family when negotiating. We all would.

 

Being "worth their salary" is a value assessment related to their performance vis a vis their peers on the diamond only.

[saskjayfan]

0.3 WAR - 1/3+ through his $22M season. Yup, earning his salary. #Math

 

What would his "WAR" be at if you excluded the games he played with a cracked rib. His wRC+ would be in the 140ish range if you excluded his time playing injured. As it is once his WAR numbers are updated he's going to be quite a bit higher than the .3 you posted just a few days ago. It doesn't take long for the stats to change.

[LTR]

What would his "WAR" be at if you excluded the games he played with a cracked rib. His wRC+ would be in the 140ish range if you excluded his time playing injured. As it is once his WAR numbers are updated he's going to be quite a bit higher than the .3 you posted just a few days ago. It doesn't take long for the stats to change.

 

It doesn't work that way. Injuries and playing injured are part of his profile.

Edited June 10, 2015 by LTR

[saskjayfan]

It doesn't work that way. Injuries and playing injured are part of his profile.

 

playing through pain is one thing....playing injured is another...the jays made the wrong call. I'd rather have him playing healthy for 130 than playing through injury and playing 145 to 150. Regardless, his cumulative WAR has likely more than doubled in a matter of 4 or 5 days and he's going to end up with being a 3 to 4 win player this year.

[Angrioter]

That energy Jose, that energy ---> http://m.mlb.com/video/v154589183/miator-reyes-drives-a-solo-homer-to-rightcenter/?query=reyes

[SaskJaysFan_2]

I would argue that not one baseball player is "worth their salary". Brain surgeons earn their salary.

 

You can say that about nearly everything. Is a latte at SB worth $4? Loaf of bread worth $3? Etc.

[BigCecil]

Depends on what your value of "worth" is. A successful baseball player generates revenue in ticket sales, merchandise, etc. Can't say the same about brain surgeons.

 

Also, just like surgeons, pro ball players are a very elite minority. There are very few in the world that can do what they can do...in fact, one could argue that the skill level required is even more elite in pro baseball players than brain surgeons. Brain surgery is something that can be learned with the right amount of study and work. While baseball can also be learned...and one can argue that you can learn to be very good at it, I think there is something to be said for 'being born with it'. I know that's not something that can be proven, but I really do think that the best of the best have that intangible that you really can't teach...it's just an instinct.

 

There are different ways to look at "worth". Does your financial investment bring a return on your investment, is one. Then there's the more philosophic question...of what sort of "value" a baseball player brings to society, over say, a surgeon? That's a different sort of discussion.

 

 

Well written. I'm not thrilled that in our society Justin Beiber is "valued" more financially(or was lol) than a brain surgeon or teacher of my son etc etc, but that's a much different issue that the relative "worth" of a baseball player in the wildly large and profitable business of sport entertainment.

 

Elite athletic talent is a rare commodity and for whatever reasons, our free market values it highly from a compensatory perspective.

[SAAviour]

@DCameronFG: AL shortstop leaderboard, last 365 days, presented without comment. http://t.co/g2VywTXwEq

 

Hey, look who is 3rd.

[RealAccountant]

? Doesn't account for the impact on the rest of the team due to his poor defense.

[GD]

? Doesn't account for the impact on the rest of the team due to his poor defense.

 

what

[HERPDERP]

Surprised Brad Miller is up there. Wasn't he recently converted into Ben Zobrist-type? Didn't expect for him to still have positive D.

[GD]

Seattle is just dumn, he should be a shortstop.

 

Our shortstop

[Angrioter]

Goins is better than the best 2B in the league

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