Can Chris Colabello Stick?

[BigCecil]

4th OF please. If Pillar is seen as a long term OF option as a starter... player evaluation on this team is awful.

 

I love my Jays but think its pretty clear that on MLB player development and talent evaluation our organization has been pretty bottom of the pack.

 

It is evidenced on the field by the lack of truly above replacement level regulars we have developed in our system, and by those we have let go to other organizations.

[Smokey]

4th OF please. If Pillar is seen as a long term OF option as a starter... player evaluation on this team is awful.

 

That quote is pretty telling on its own but then there's the fact that this is the same organization who has gifted starting jobs to guys like Eric Thames, Emilio Bonifacio, JP Arencibia and Ryan Goins. I think it's safe to say that player evaluation on this team suxxxx.

[BigCecil]

That quote is pretty telling on its own but then there's the fact that this is the same organization who has gifted starting jobs to guys like Eric Thames, Emilio Bonifacio, JP Arencibia and Ryan Goins. I think it's safe to say that player evaluation on this team suxxxx.

 

Kept JPA and punted Gomes kind of trumps everything else.

[gruber92]

Colabello just keeps hitting i see. What a feel good story this will be if he keeps it up.

[bluejays19]

Was wondering if anyone saw that grab to end the game?

[Captain Adama]

I'm on shrooms right now, I thought he jumped out of my phone. Scared the s*** out of me.

[gbill2004]

I'm on shrooms right now, I thought he jumped out of my phone. Scared the s*** out of me.

Is the thought of Chris Colabello giving you a boner right now?

[Boxcar]

Is the thought of Chris Colabello giving you a boner right now?

 

Pretty weird question

[gbill2004]

Pretty weird question

He said he's on mushrooms.

[Spanky99]

I'm on shrooms right now, I thought he jumped out of my phone. Scared the s*** out of me.

 

Is the thought of Chris Colabello giving you a boner right now?

 

Pretty weird question

 

He said he's on mushrooms.

 

And you wanna know if he's sprouting one in his pants?

 

WTF? lol

[saskjayfan]

4th OF please. If Pillar is seen as a long term OF option as a starter... player evaluation on this team is awful.

 

Pillar is 26. Is there no room for improvement for the kid? He's played 147 games over parts of three years. That isn't even a full season's worth of games. His defense has been great and his base running has been equally good stealing 7 of 8 bags.

 

I must admit I was more than skeptical about his bat coming into this year myself. He looked like a fish out of water for a stretch there as well, but it's his first full season in the big leagues and young players press to much at times. The homer he hit against the twins looked like he hardly swung at the ball. The kid hass some pop in his bat. Then I look at his K rate of 16.9% and Pillar swings at pretty much everything. That's a pretty impressive k rate for someone with zero plate discipline. He can put the bat on the ball.

 

Does he need to develop his approach, continue to refine his mechanics and become a more complete hitter? Of course he does. 2 walks to go along with 2 hits last night was a good sign. If Pillar can take more walks, and start swinging at more pitches inside the zone, he could become a decent hitter.

 

I'm not saying he won't be like JPA and never get better, because that may be the case. However he's far too young in his career for me to write him off. I'm on the fence with Pillar.

[bendera3]

Remember a few years ago when we would rejoice when JPA took a walk? Pillar hasn't gotten to that point quite yet. He actually only has 6 more to go than JPA had all of 2013.

[BigCecil]

Pillar is 26. Is there no room for improvement for the kid? He's played 147 games over parts of three years. That isn't even a full season's worth of games. His defense has been great and his base running has been equally good stealing 7 of 8 bags.

 

I must admit I was more than skeptical about his bat coming into this year myself. He looked like a fish out of water for a stretch there as well, but it's his first full season in the big leagues and young players press to much at times. The homer he hit against the twins looked like he hardly swung at the ball. The kid hass some pop in his bat. Then I look at his K rate of 16.9% and Pillar swings at pretty much everything. That's a pretty impressive k rate for someone with zero plate discipline. He can put the bat on the ball.

 

Does he need to develop his approach, continue to refine his mechanics and become a more complete hitter? Of course he does. 2 walks to go along with 2 hits last night was a good sign. If Pillar can take more walks, and start swinging at more pitches inside the zone, he could become a decent hitter.

 

I'm not saying he won't be like JPA and never get better, because that may be the case. However he's far too young in his career for me to write him off. I'm on the fence with Pillar.

 

Its a fair point. Lots of players have made adjustments that changed their careers including guys like Bautista, Edwin and JD. Likely? Probably not but the kid has been proving people wrong since he was drafted in the 32nd round.

 

His current WAR is 1.9 even with his plate struggles.

[Caper]

Remember a few years ago when we would rejoice when JPA took a walk? Pillar hasn't gotten to that point quite yet. He actually only has 6 more to go than JPA had all of 2013.

 

Funny thing was, JPA could always get himself into 2-0, 3-1 counts.

[saskjayfan]

Remember a few years ago when we would rejoice when JPA took a walk? Pillar hasn't gotten to that point quite yet. He actually only has 6 more to go than JPA had all of 2013.

 

Pillar does have less swinging strikes though..so there's that..lol

[KingKat]

At 26, there's not necessarily a lot of room for growth with Pillar. Which isn't to say that late bloomers don't exist and that he might not be one but there's also a very strong likelyhood that he's peaked. If he has, you can't really complain about it. He's the kind of right-handed 4th OF type the Jays have been missing since Rajai left and he looks way better in CF than Rajai ever did. he's had to earn everything in baseball and se's carved a nice niche for himself.

[bendera3]

Pillar does have less swinging strikes though..so there's that..lol

 

He also has shown the ability to actually make decent contact. His average is only a few points below his OBS. If he refines his approach so he isn't swinging at all the balls he does he could probably be a little bit above average hitter which would make for a very good 4th outfielder or average semi-regular.

[Smokey]

Pillar is 26. Is there no room for improvement for the kid? He's played 147 games over parts of three years. That isn't even a full season's worth of games. His defense has been great and his base running has been equally good stealing 7 of 8 bags.

 

I must admit I was more than skeptical about his bat coming into this year myself. He looked like a fish out of water for a stretch there as well, but it's his first full season in the big leagues and young players press to much at times. The homer he hit against the twins looked like he hardly swung at the ball. The kid hass some pop in his bat. Then I look at his K rate of 16.9% and Pillar swings at pretty much everything. That's a pretty impressive k rate for someone with zero plate discipline. He can put the bat on the ball.

 

Does he need to develop his approach, continue to refine his mechanics and become a more complete hitter? Of course he does. 2 walks to go along with 2 hits last night was a good sign. If Pillar can take more walks, and start swinging at more pitches inside the zone, he could become a decent hitter.

 

I'm not saying he won't be like JPA and never get better, because that may be the case. However he's far too young in his career for me to write him off. I'm on the fence with Pillar.

 

I find it quite ironic actually that you even have the nerve to mention JPA... The same guy who you countlessly defended as being young and able to improve, just as you've done with pretty much any marginally talented player that this organization decided to waste ABs on.

 

I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to comprehend but simply put: handing starting jobs to guys with limited ceilings like Pillar and Goins (when you have aspirations of contending) is not a very good idea. That's not saying they'll never get better and that they don't belong in the majors, but your best case scenario is a 1-2 war player and the investment is just not worth the return. Pillar and Goins are both useful bench peices but this organization continually overplays its hand and ends up allocating full time jobs to guys with little upside. Then you come in and act like a cheerleader until such players fall on their face at which point you shamelessly move on to the next one.

[IronLadle]

Goins hasn't really been handed a starting job, Reyes got hurt, then Travis and Izturis as well. Considering he's third string I'm not worried about it

[Smokey]

Goins hasn't really been handed a starting job, Reyes got hurt, then Travis and Izturis as well. Considering he's third string I'm not worried about it

 

I was referring to last year when he was handed a starting job on opening day and goes on put up a wRC+ of 26 after almost 200 plate appearances.

[RealAccountant]

40 plate appearances away from leading the AL in batting average

[RealAccountant]

Bump

[gbill2004]

Funny how he's a .325 hitter, yet barely a positive WAR.

[GD]

literally the antiGoins

[IronLadle]

Funny how he's a .325 hitter, yet barely a positive WAR.

 

Of course Gibbons stuck him in the outfield

[Dr Negative]

Colabello is a less douchy version of JPA with extreme BABIP luck.

[pickoff22]

Colabello is a less douchy version of JPA with extreme BABIP luck.

 

Eventually people will have to stop calling Colabello's production at the plate just "luck".

[Angrioter]

Eventually people will have to stop calling Colabello's production at the plate just "luck".

 

He's Barry Bonds, Amirite?

[Captain Adama]

Eventually people will have to stop calling Colabello's production at the plate just "luck".

 

He's probably not a true talent .408 BABIP hitter.

[pickoff22]

He's Barry Bonds, Amirite?

 

No, his name is Chris Colabello.