Michael Saunders injures hammy

[polar bear]

Ya crazy good trade!

Crazy good trade ? I generally respect your opinion JF,so convince me why an oft injured,average

outfielder is an upgrade to a steady number 4,5, starter?

[Governator]

Crazy good trade ? I generally respect your opinion JF,so convince me why an oft injured,average

outfielder is an upgrade to a steady number 4,5, starter?

 

You're about to get shat on.

[Mikeleelop]

don't want Lind on this team

 

good bye

[Governator]

don't want Lind on this team

 

good bye

 

 

It's not about having Lind on this team but what better value could have been had for him. AA was far too quick to pull the trigger on a less valuable piece even if a reliever was the target.

[KingKat]

Crazy good trade ? I generally respect your opinion JF,so convince me why an oft injured,average

outfielder is an upgrade to a steady number 4,5, starter?

 

For one thing, there's two years of control on Saunders as opposed to one for Happ.

[jayswin11]

It's not about having Lind on this team but what better value could have been had for him. AA was far too quick to pull the trigger on a less valuable piece even if a reliever was the target.

 

Lind needed to go.

 

We don't know what AA could have got or what was offered for Lind, but I'm sure he did his DD and got the best he could for Lind.

[polar bear]

1. An average OF is worth more than a number 4 or 5 everytime regardless of the players in question.

2. Saunders projects for more WAR than Happ.

3. Saunders is $3M cheaper than Happ.

4. Saunders has another year after this and Happ doesn't.

5. We had a replacement for Happ who is as good or better (Norris), as well as plenty of depth behind him.

6. Our starting LF would have been Pillar with limited 4 OF depth.

 

Well,if you put it that way,I'll bow to your superior knowledge of the game.

My main concern is,can he stay healthy?

[Captain Adama]

Crazy good trade ? I generally respect your opinion JF,so convince me why an oft injured,average

outfielder is an upgrade to a steady number 4,5, starter?

 

1. Happ is 4 years older than Saunders, and also is much more expensive, he's due to get 5 million in his next year, Saunders still has control (he's due to make a mere 2.9 million)

2. Happ is a pitcher. Saunders isn't.

3. Happ has been worth 2.3 WAR to the Jays his entire career in Toronto. Saunders has amassed that total last year, let alone 6 WAR in the past 3 years.

5. Contrary to your statement, Saunders has been an above average hitter the past three years (109 wRC+)

6. When the Jays traded Happ, he was going to be pushed off the rotation anyway, cause Stroman wasn't hurt then. The fact they got a cheap, above average outfielder for him was terrific.

 

EDIT: f*** JFaS already did it for me.

[ScientificReason]

1. An average OF is worth more than a number 4 or 5 everytime regardless of the players in question.

2. Saunders projects for more WAR than Happ.

3. Saunders is $4M cheaper than Happ.

4. Saunders has another year after this and Happ doesn't.

5. We had a replacement for Happ who is as good or better (Norris), as well as plenty of depth behind him.

6. Our starting LF would have been Pillar with limited 4 OF depth.

 

That is useless currently. We have to see how much value he provides, but you do make good points. The Stroman injury hurts..bad.

[Governator]

That is useless currently. We have to see how much value he provides, but you do make good points. The Stroman injury hurts..bad.

 

 

How is that useless when evaluating a trade? Player A is projected to provide much more value to a given team over his contract than player B. Saunders played in 78 games last year and was still a 2 WAR player compared to Happ's 1 WAR.

[IBTrini]

1. An average OF is worth more than a number 4 or 5 everytime regardless of the players in question.

2. Saunders projects for more WAR than Happ.

3. Saunders is $4M cheaper than Happ.

4. Saunders has another year after this and Happ doesn't.

5. We had a replacement for Happ who is as good or better (Norris), as well as plenty of depth behind him.

6. Our starting LF would have been Pillar with limited 4 OF depth.

 

It's nice to see a civil, well written response. You do the board proud.

[L54]

It's nice to see a civil, well written response. You do the board proud.

 

Agreed. It stimulates conversation and hopefully pushes helps engage lurkers or new members to post more, knowing that people won't jump down their throat for asking questions they might not fully understand.

[ScientificReason]

It's nice to see a civil, well written response. You do the board proud.

 

Agree, if more people posted like this instead of Ur dum, Your an idiot, or hi MJ this place trolling would be almost non existent.

[ScientificReason]

How is that useless when evaluating a trade? Player A is projected to provide much more value to a given team over his contract than player B. Saunders played in 78 games last year and was still a 2 WAR player compared to Happ's 1 WAR.

 

Fair enough, you make good points. Still you can never have enough pitching as we have seen. There are things stats like WAR don't show.

[ScientificReason]

It's a paradox. You can never have enough pitchers because pitchers get hurt easily, but you should trade pitchers for hitters because pitchers get hurt easily.

 

LOL mind blown

[kcjaysfan]

Usually written as != == != but you're forgiven.

 

If you're talking about the comparison operator, then the double equal sign is actually ubiquitous. I can't think of any programming language where the single equal sign is used for anything other than assignment.

[Spanky99]

Agree, if more people posted like this instead of Ur dum, Your an idiot, or hi MJ this place trolling would be almost non existent.

 

S'up MJ?

[kcjaysfan]

If and case statements?

 

Looking into it further, BASIC and Pascal both use a single equal sign for comparison. I had completely forgotten about that.