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I think Devon Travis was their 2B move. Had they focused their efforts towards a 2B, they may not have gotten Donaldson.

 

I'm talking about a one year gap. The 2nd base issue had nothing to do with that trade, AA simply added wins, great trade.

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I'm talking about a one year gap. The 2nd base issue had nothing to do with that trade, AA simply added wins, great trade.

 

Well, since Travis is a 2B, the 2B issue had lots to do with that trade. We'll see how things shake out, but I think that was their 2B move. I'm sure they would've liked a utility IF, but that didn't happen.

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I'm talking about a one year gap. The 2nd base issue had nothing to do with that trade, AA simply added wins, great trade.

 

Although it had nothing to do with Donaldson, The Travis trade was meant for this season. My guess is he found the free agent options lacking and got a player with a decent floor to be used as soon as he's needed. He will be brought up shortly after either he succeeds in the minors or the MLB options fail.

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I'm talking about a one year gap. The 2nd base issue had nothing to do with that trade, AA simply added wins, great trade.

 

I agree, Travis more than likely won't be a major contributor this year, a 1 year stop-gap would have been the best course of action at 2nd base to contend this year. I'm still excited to see what the little midget can do

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I agree, Travis more than likely won't be a major contributor this year, a 1 year stop-gap would have been the best course of action at 2nd base to contend this year. I'm still excited to see what the little midget can do

 

Ditto.

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Although it had nothing to do with Donaldson, The Travis trade was meant for this season. My guess is he found the free agent options lacking and got a player with a decent floor to be used as soon as he's needed. He will be brought up shortly after either he succeeds in the minors or the MLB options fail.

 

Yes, I agree, but saying Travis is our answer this season, is a fools errand.

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Yes, I agree, but saying Travis is our answer this season, is a fools errand.

 

Less so than saying some random will save the bullpen.

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Yes, I agree, but saying Travis is our answer this season, is a fools errand.

 

 

Who was your stop-gap though? Just curious.

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Although it had nothing to do with Donaldson, The Travis trade was meant for this season. My guess is he found the free agent options lacking and got a player with a decent floor to be used as soon as he's needed. He will be brought up shortly after either he succeeds in the minors or the MLB options fail.

 

I have no clue why Elnik has lumped these moves together, that's just wrong.

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Any arm can help the BP in-house.

 

Any middle infielder could help at 2nd, Relievers don't have a monopoly on SSS.

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I think Devon Travis was their 2B move. Had they focused their efforts towards a 2B, they may not have gotten Donaldson.

 

That is NOT true.....They were focused on second base when they initially contacted Billy Beane about Donaldson. AA has stated several times his line of thinking was to obtain Donaldson and move Lawrie over to second.

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Any middle infielder could help at 2nd, Relievers don't have a monopoly on SSS.

 

It wouldn't be a SSS, meh, comparing apples to oranges, as it happens time and again concerning BP arms.

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That is NOT true.....They were focused on second base when they initially contacted Billy Beane about Donaldson. AA has stated several times his line of thinking was to obtain Donaldson and move Lawrie over to second.

 

I said they "may not" have gotten Donaldson. Point being that if they had used some of the assets they gave up in the Donaldson trade to get a really good 2B, they may not have pursued the Donaldson trade.

 

Besides, getting a guy like Donaldson changes things quite a bit. And it's not like Travis couldn't have been offered to Oakland instead of Barreto or Lawrie.

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It wouldn't be a SSS, meh, comparing apples to oranges, as it happens time and again concerning BP arms.

 

It would be if Travis comes up a month into the season.

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No. So much of this is wrong, they throw overhand for a living. The weighted ball exercises and strengthens their arms, to limit injury and induce velocity, that's it.

 

I really don't think it's this simple. If it was everyone would be doing it, position players included. Being skeptical of weight ball programs is certainly reasonable.

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For months people on this board have been crying Cecil Cecil Cecil

 

Jays dont have enough middle relief

 

Cecil

 

No one for late innings

 

Cecil

 

No one to close

 

Cecil

 

 

There now no Cecil. this is the pen, assuming Sanchez is not in the minors

 

CL Loup

SU Redmond

SU Jenkins

MRP Liam Hendricks

MRP Kyle Drabek

LRP Ricky Romero

 

Enjoy

 

Lol, 1000 dollars this is not the pen. Care to wager?

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I really don't think it's this simple. If it was everyone would be doing it, position players included. Being skeptical of weight ball programs is certainly reasonable.

 

He's not excluded to Toronto, well, until last year. Plenty of pitchers and ballplayers use it. Who knows, really?

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Hasn't been around long enough to really know the long term health effects, Everything one way or another is anecdotal at this point.

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