Around Baseball 2015

[o2cui2i]

thole and Pomp?

[Nabru]

Had Arrieta shown any flashes of brilliance in Baltimore? I'm curious if it was a stupid trade or just an unfortunate one.

 

Yes. In the past he had issues with runners on base. He would implode.

 

As a Cubs and Jays fan, thanks Duquette for trading Arietta and Strop for Scott freaking Feldman. Also, special thanks to Peter Angelos for holding Duquette back from interviewing for Shapiro's new job. Can't wait for the Jays to snag Chris Davis in the 2015-16 offseason.

[baubau]

thole and Pomp?

 

Loup, Tepera (he's perfect as a reliever for blow out games so we don't have to waste the good ones like Lowe) and Delabar in that mix too.

[HERPDERP]

Loup, Tepera (he's perfect as a reliever for blow out games so we don't have to waste the good ones like Lowe) and Delabar in that mix too.

 

this club hates Delabar. They didn't even bring him up last September.

[BigCecil]

Had Arrieta shown any flashes of brilliance in Baltimore? I'm curious if it was a stupid trade or just an unfortunate one.

 

Every out of the no no last night in link. I watched the game last night but couldn't see end. I went to bed not knowing but I could not believe the nastiness of all his stuff last night.

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/gotta-see-it-every-out-of-arrietas-no-hitter-for-cubs/

[Atothe]

this club hates Delabar. They didn't even bring him up last September.

 

Okay? Did he deserve it? No

Edited August 31, 2015 by Atothe

[flafson]

Every out of the no no last night in link. I watched the game last night but couldn't see end. I went to bed not knowing but I could not believe the nastiness of all his stuff last night.

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/gotta-see-it-every-out-of-arrietas-no-hitter-for-cubs/

 

He clearly has great stuff but i think the Dodgers really helped him by swinging at a lot of balls.

[BigCecil]

He clearly has great stuff but i think the Dodgers really helped him by swinging at a lot of balls.

 

All great pitching performance require inducing hitters to swing at a lot of balls.

 

That down and in hard slider to LHH was incredible.

[flafson]

All great pitching performance require inducing hitters to swing at a lot of balls.

 

That down and in hard slider to LHH was incredible.

 

I obviously didn't refer to those sliders because it's clear it looks enticing enough to swing at it.

[BigCecil]

I obviously didn't refer to those sliders because it's clear it looks enticing enough to swing at it.

 

He had everything working with his stuff. One pitch set up the other and got the chasing. When Stro was going well last year he was using that pitch to LHH. The liner to 2B in the 3rd was a hit in my books anyway. I think giving an E on that was wrong. Tough chance on do or die plays. Doesn't change the brilliance of the overall performance.

[Nabru]

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/minnesota-twins-continue-to-defy-lowered-expectations-083115

 

AND IN BALTIMORE . . .

 

Jake Arrieta's no-hitter for the Cubs on Sunday night is not going to help the perception some have of Orioles GM Dan Duquette, who sent Arrieta and reliever Pedro Strop to the Cubs for potential free-agent right-hander Scott Feldman and catcher Steve Clevenger on July 2, 2013.

At the time of the trade, most recognized Arrieta as a high-ceiling arm with the potential to develop into a top-of-the-rotation starter. But let's not forget, he had a 5.46 ERA in 358 innings with the Orioles. It's to his credit -- and the Cubs' -- that he fulfilled his potential in Chicago.

Duquette, meanwhile, did mostly terrific work in helping the Orioles reach the postseason in two of the last three seasons. But his desire to pursue the Blue Jays' club presidency last off-season -- and the Orioles' refusal to let him depart -- created a lingering resentment among some inside the organization, resentment that carried over into the team's rapidly souring season, major-league sources say.

Some who are upset probably were counting on promotions if Duquette departed. Still, even some fans questioned whether Duquette grew distracted during his flirtation with Toronto (the Orioles and Blue Jays could not agree on compensation for Duquette; the Indians did not ask for compensation for Shapiro, choosing not to impede him if he wanted to leave, sources said.)

The Orioles' 63-67 record stems from a large number of factors, including a rotation that is 13th in the AL in ERA. Duquette, though, stumbled when he failed to adequately replace Nelson Cruz and Nick Markakis, both of whom left as free agents. And even though the GM acquired outfielder Gerardo Parra at the non-waiver deadline, he also traded reliever Tommy Hunter, leaving his bullpen vulnerable (neither Parra nor Hunter has performed particularly well for their new clubs).

The desire of Orioles owner Peter Angelos to hold Duquette to his contract was understandable; that contract runs through 2018. Still, Duquette would have been leaving for a promotion, and Angelos’ stubbornness created an unhealthy environment around the club.

As if that is not enough, all this comes at a time when the Orioles are at a crossroads, facing the losses of a large number of free agents with a farm system that is too thin to keep the club strong. It's a bit of a mess, no?

[HERPDERP]

Great time to be a Blue Jay fan.

 

Now all we need to do is sign Chris Davis.

[GD]

But his desire to pursue the Blue Jays' club presidency last off-season -- and the Orioles' refusal to let him depart -- created a lingering resentment among some inside the organization, resentment that carried over into the team's rapidly souring season, major-league sources say.

 

f***ING SHOCKER.gif

[reedjohnsonfan]

Great time to be a Blue Jay fan.

 

Now all we need to do is sign Chris Davis.

 

Please no

[glory]

Duquette has to be pissed. He got screwed royally by Angelos.

[baubau]

There needs to be a good guy Amgelos meme here. "Won't let GM leave for promotion... Only so other team could hire a better guy for free". Thanks PA!

[Dr. Dinger]

Great time to be a Blue Jay fan.

 

Now all we need to do is sign Chris Davis.

 

Pass. We already have 3 guys for 2 positions, no need to make it 4 (and a very expensive 4th at that). Use that money on a pitcher.

[HERPDERP]

Pass. We already have 3 guys for 2 positions, no need to make it 4 (and a very expensive 4th at that). Use that money on a pitcher.

 

but a left handed banger ;[

[Dr. Dinger]

but a left handed banger ;[

 

What difference does that make? I'd rather have a bunch of righties. Righties hit righties, lefties don't hit lefties. L-R "balance" is extremely overrated.

[Dr. Dinger]

I don't even really like Colabello, but his wOBA is like 20 points higher than Crush. The last thing I want to do is tie up all our spending money in another masher, especially one with a very up and down history. 2014 Davis on a 5 year deal is a hell of an albatross.

[Statman]

Great time to be a Blue Jay fan.

 

Now all we need to do is sign Chris Davis.

 

I'll pass on his 33% strike out rate. Offers no value defensively either. Would be a horrible signing.

[Stangstag]

Chris Davis would actually look perfect in this Lineup. Good LH power to slot in between all the righties.

[Dr. Dinger]

Chris Davis would actually look perfect in this Lineup. Good LH power to slot in between all the righties.

 

Yes, because our current offense is so deficient against RHP...

[Stangstag]

Yes, because our current offense is so deficient against RHP...

 

Meh. Its fun to think about sometimes. Obviously he wouldn't be worth the money. We need to spend any free money on the rotation

[Dr. Dinger]

You could probably get Jordan Zimmermann for the same money as Davis, or less. I'd be all over that.

[GD]

You could probably get Jordan Zimmermann for the same money as Davis, or less. I'd be all over that.

 

Yes please. Bring in him and Chen and we're pretty much set.

 

Zimmermann

Stroman

Chen

Hutchison

Osuna

 

Sanchez etc

[HERPDERP]

Yes please. Bring in him and Chen and we're pretty much set.

 

Zimmermann

Stroman

Chen

Hutchison

Osuna

 

Sanchez etc

 

Wouldn't bring back Dickey?

[Orgfiller]

Wouldn't bring back Dickey?

 

Gross, pls no.

 

Buehrle I would definitely consider if he doesn't retire and is willing to come back.

[baubau]

Yes please. Bring in him and Chen and we're pretty much set.

 

Zimmermann

Stroman

Chen

Hutchison

Osuna

 

Sanchez etc

 

Rather go for Iwakuma or Shark instead of Chen. And yes while he should cost less Boras will rather risk being fired than settle.

[TheHurl]

Yankees said to have claimed Robertson as they heard the Jays would try and put together a deal.