Blue Jays claim Matt West from Rangers, Designate Cory Burns

[GD]

Are you 14 years old?

 

I resent that.

[Captain Adama]

I resent that.

 

There's a difference between being 14 and posting like a f***ing idiot.

[Deadpool]

If by 'early English monarchy' you mean totally gay, then yes, agree completely.

 

It's a well known fact that us men with long hair are the most virile, straightest men of the lot.

[KingKat]

Everyone seems to be convinced that Delabar is done. I'm not so sure...

 

That wasn't my point but now that I look into it, I can't say I'm terribly optimistic myself. He needs a drastic reduction of his walk rate.

[LongTimeReader]

Are you 14 years old?

 

Yer gay.

[HERPDERP]

That wasn't my point but now that I look into it, I can't say I'm terribly optimistic myself. He needs a drastic reduction of his walk rate.

 

it was revealed a month ago that he was actually pitching injured, so that may be why. gonna dig article.

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/delabar-hopeful-as-jays-relief-search-continues/

 

"And that leads us to the question many are asking. Exactly what happened to Delabar last year? How does a guy go from being an all-star to being sent down to the minors in mid-June with an ERA close to 5.00, never to return to the big leagues. As it turns out, there was a good reason for his struggles. He was injured.

 

“I had little nagging things here and there that didn’t require DL time,” he said. “They were more maintainence things and it was a grind from the beginning of the season, all the way through. I’m not one to make excuses so you probably didn’t hear about it until probably just now. For the most part, I just didn’t feel healthy all year.”"

[Spanky99]

Are you 14 years old?

 

No, he's just bald.

[Spanky99]

Everyone seems to be convinced that Delabar is done. I'm not so sure...

 

Yeah, if he isn't bullshiting about being injured, I'm excited to see where he'll be in ST.

[Spanky99]

Huh?

 

He's a bald cynic, to folks that have long hair, better?

[KingKat]

Even in his good year, Delabar had a high walk rate (4.45/9) but that was conpensated by an insane strikeout rate (12.58/9). I can't help but wonder if that's a sustainable recipe for success. Lots of people on this board have a better handle this than I do and could actually answer the question. I'm just raising it. Anecdotally, high walk rates were also an issue that was raised when Santos was acquired. I dismissed it at the time now I'm less willing to waive it off.

[KingKat]

I think if Delabar can stay healthy (unlike Santos) and can maintain his high strikeout rate, that can make the walks more bearable. What were Santos' walk numbers...something tells me much worse than 4.45/9.

 

Nope. 4.53 and 4.12 in the two White Sox seasons that preceded his acquisition. His 2011 season was pretty outstanding, 13.07 K/9 to go with that 4.12 BB/9. That's better in both respects than Delabar's 2013.

[KingKat]

So a bit better...but I think most people still considered him to be a pretty effective and dominant reliever while with the Sox...I still think Delabar will have a role to play on this team. But I do think the leash will be short.

 

Yeah faith in Santos was pretty high but I do remember at least a few people raising the walks as a red flag and it's a red flag with Delabar too. The ups and downs of Santos and Delabar, just go to show you what a crap shoot relievers can be and the crap shoot works both ways. Delabar could certainly go right back to being dominant like nothing ever happened. Someone else altogether could emerge as dominant and conversely, Loup and Cecil could crap the bed. That's relievers for you. Samples are small, s*** happens.

[KingKat]

Tepera. I know not many are talking about him but I know AA has mentioned him a couple of time in the off-season, BA has an atricle on him right now...He moved to the pen last year and was effective and he's believe to be right on the cusp. He was 93-96 last year (bump due to move to BP) and I think he started throwing a splitter that was effective. Stilson would've been right there too had he not had the labrum surgery. You're right...there will be a name or two that we don't know much about that will get some looks.

 

If the improved control he showed is for real, Gregory Infante could be an absolute beast. He's a former top 10 prospect for the CWS and he once infamously hit 100 mp/h four times in a single AA outing.

[Governator]

What do you guys think Janssen's cost would be to re-sign and would you have him back? I'm not convinced he's done and considering the disaster of a second half he could be had cheap, no? I'm not suggesting closer role but we need rhp. He gave us 3 straight seasons of solidness and if you believe in the food poisoning reasoning is he not worth the risk?

[KingKat]

If the improved control he showed is for real, Gregory Infante could be an absolute beast. He's a former top 10 prospect for the CWS and he once infamously hit 100 mp/h four times in a single AA outing.

 

And with that... I just talked myself into picking up Greg Infante in the League of Despair. He played in the majors in 2010 so he's eligible.

[KingKat]

What do you guys think Janssen's cost would be to re-sign and would you have him back? I'm not convinced he's done and considering the disaster of a second half he could be had cheap, no? I'm not suggesting closer role but we need rhp. He gave us 3 straight seasons of solidness and if you believe in the food poisoning reasoning is he not worth the risk?

 

Janssen has a history of over-achieving. I don't want to write him off completely. If he comes cheap, I say why the f*** not?

[Deadpool]

If the improved control he showed is for real, Gregory Infante could be an absolute beast. He's a former top 10 prospect for the CWS and he once infamously hit 100 mp/h four times in a single AA outing.

 

I'm really hopeful for Infante to make an appearance this season, I think he could be a surprise guy outta the pen...

 

What do you guys think Janssen's cost would be to re-sign and would you have him back? I'm not convinced he's done and considering the disaster of a second half he could be had cheap, no? I'm not suggesting closer role but we need rhp. He gave us 3 straight seasons of solidness and if you believe in the food poisoning reasoning is he not worth the risk?

 

I would be down, as long as it was with the understanding that he's not here for the closer role. (I'm sort of hoping they actually do the smart thing and don't have a "closer", just use the right guys in the highest leverage situations be it the 9th or earlier (or later, I suppose...)

[Laika]

Even in his good year, Delabar had a high walk rate (4.45/9) but that was conpensated by an insane strikeout rate (12.58/9). I can't help but wonder if that's a sustainable recipe for success. Lots of people on this board have a better handle this than I do and could actually answer the question. I'm just raising it. Anecdotally, high walk rates were also an issue that was raised when Santos was acquired. I dismissed it at the time now I'm less willing to waive it off.

 

It's not really a question with an answer. A high walk rate can be part of a recipe for sustainable success if your high K rate is sustainable... with Delabar, he unfortunately lost a couple of ticks off the top end of his fastball between 2013 and 2014, so there went a lot of his strikeout power. He then had to rely more heavily on his nasty splitter to get strikeouts but that's not really a zone pitch, so you can see the related jump in walk rate. It all added up to ineffectiveness.

 

CH% (split)

2013 = 12.5%

2014 = 19.5%

 

Max FAv

2013 = 97.8

2014 = 95.6

 

FA O-swing%

2013 = 29.9%

2014 = 24.5%

 

FA Contact%

2013 = 71.3%

2014 = 82.4%

 

FA swstr%

2013 = 13.7%

2014 = 8.4%

 

His splitter peripherals for the most part were the same in 2014 as they were in 2013. His zone% with the fastball was also actually slightly higher in 2014, surprisingly.

 

What it all came down to, it seems, is that his fastball went from a power pitch that got whiffs, to a very seeable and hittable offering. People laid off of it outside the zone and hammered it when it was in the zone. Motherf***ing 34.8% LD% off his fastball.....

[Spanky99]

It's not really a question with an answer. A high walk rate can be part of a recipe for sustainable success if your high K rate is sustainable... with Delabar, he unfortunately lost a couple of ticks off the top end of his fastball between 2013 and 2014, so there went a lot of his strikeout power. He then had to rely more heavily on his nasty splitter to get strikeouts but that's not really a zone pitch, so you can see the related jump in walk rate. It all added up to ineffectiveness.

 

CH% (split)

2013 = 12.5%

2014 = 19.5%

 

Max FAv

2013 = 97.8

2014 = 95.6

 

FA O-swing%

2013 = 29.9%

2014 = 24.5%

 

FA Contact%

2013 = 71.3%

2014 = 82.4%

 

FA swstr%

2013 = 13.7%

2014 = 8.4%

 

His splitter peripherals for the most part were the same in 2014 as they were in 2013. His zone% with the fastball was also actually slightly higher in 2014, surprisingly.

 

What it all came down to, it seems, is that his fastball went from a power pitch that got whiffs, to a very seeable and hittable offering. People laid off of it outside the zone and hammered it when it was in the zone. Motherf***ing 34.8% LD% off his fastball.....

 

Excellent post.

[KingKat]

It's not really a question with an answer. A high walk rate can be part of a recipe for sustainable success if your high K rate is sustainable... with Delabar, he unfortunately lost a couple of ticks off the top end of his fastball between 2013 and 2014, so there went a lot of his strikeout power. He then had to rely more heavily on his nasty splitter to get strikeouts but that's not really a zone pitch, so you can see the related jump in walk rate. It all added up to ineffectiveness.

 

CH% (split)

2013 = 12.5%

2014 = 19.5%

 

Max FAv

2013 = 97.8

2014 = 95.6

 

FA O-swing%

2013 = 29.9%

2014 = 24.5%

 

FA Contact%

2013 = 71.3%

2014 = 82.4%

 

FA swstr%

2013 = 13.7%

2014 = 8.4%

 

His splitter peripherals for the most part were the same in 2014 as they were in 2013. His zone% with the fastball was also actually slightly higher in 2014, surprisingly.

 

What it all came down to, it seems, is that his fastball went from a power pitch that got whiffs, to a very seeable and hittable offering. People laid off of it outside the zone and hammered it when it was in the zone. Motherf***ing 34.8% LD% off his fastball.....

 

Awesome answer, you could make a blog post out of that.

[Spanky99]

Awesome answer, you could make a blog post out of that.

 

I was wondering this very thing, and BAMM, NJH shows up, lol. Great answer.

[Spanky99]

Wut

 

Looks for sure like he's wearing a wig in the first pic... you just want to shave that s*** off so he doesn't look like such a loafer

 

If by 'early English monarchy' you mean totally gay, then yes, agree completely.

 

Yer gay.

 

Never answered. ...Baldilocks, lol.

[Spanky99]

No, he's just bald.

 

Are you 14 years old?

 

He's a bald cynic, to folks that have long hair, better?

 

Never answered. ...Baldilocks, lol.

 

lol...just a bald cynic.

[LongTimeReader]

lol...just a bald cynic.

 

I'm only cynical for fun. People take s*** way too seriously here.

 

Btw, I have a full head of hair.. so keep using that one, it means nothing

 

Spankster, you are wonderul when you're DRUNK!

[Spanky99]

I'm only cynical for fun. People take s*** way too seriously here.

 

Btw, I have a full head of hair.. so keep using that one, it means nothing

 

Spankster, you are wonderul when you're DRUNK!

 

So Rogaine works?

[LongTimeReader]

So Rogaine works?

 

No I suspect it doesn't, unfortunately for you

[Spanky99]

Are you going to ******** me about plugs, etc, as BigJohn? Talking bald with the crew that were?

[Spanky99]

*crickets*

[Spanky99]

lol

[Deadpool]

No I suspect it doesn't, unfortunately for you

 

I can confirm that Spanky has a head of hair almost as glorious as my own...