11 Great..

[TheHurl]

I couldn't figure out which thread to derail and I have no clue who the hell the author Darrell Samuels is...but this is worth its own thread. Your 11 greatest Toronto Blue Jays

 

http://www.sportsbreak.com/mlb/11-best-toronto-blue-jays-ever/

[BTS]

Halladay 3rd? No Delgado, Wells, or Hentgen? Please delete this and ban yourself.

[TheHurl]

Halladay 3rd? No Delgado, Wells, or Hentgen? Please delete this and ban yourself.

 

You are going to mention Hentgen as an omission over Stieb, Clancy, Key and Wells over Barfield, Bautista, Moseby...but I have to ban myself?

[Hipfan]

Terrible list...more like 11 Jays who were involved in some historic event/year for the team. Don't waste your time reading this list.

[BTS]

You are going to mention Hentgen as an omission over Stieb, Clancy, Key and Wells over Barfield, Bautista, Moseby...but I have to ban myself?

 

I'm not the one publishing a list.

[TheHurl]

I'm not the one publishing a list.

 

Darrell Samuels needs his due. Spanky in his drunkest night couldn't put together a list that bad even if it included Dom Dunne.

[LongTimeReader]

Fun thread.

 

That's a pretty bad list but board is dead enough as it is... I for one appreciate any post/thread at this point, particularly if it's baseball related.

[JaysAllMighty]

That list consist mostly of our Jays that were part of WS winners. You just don't forget these guys. They brought us the ultimate prize.To me, Carter will always be a hero! Watching it live, I was jumping so high in my living room, spilling my beer mug all over the place.

[G-Snarls]

That list consist mostly of our Jays that were part of WS winners. You just don't forget these guys. They brought us the ultimate prize.To me, Carter will always be a hero! Watching it live, I was jumping so high in my living room, spilling my beer mug all over the place.

 

That's the thing. He did that. And it was awesome. But he isn't even a top 30 franchise player in terms of skills. Halladay and Delgado were stuck playing on s***** teams so they didn't win anything. Carter was surrounded by all stars and hall of famers. All that said I love Joe I really do. Just being realistic about what he was.

[Captain Adama]

That list consist mostly of our Jays that were part of WS winners. You just don't forget these guys. They brought us the ultimate prize.To me, Carter will always be a hero! Watching it live, I was jumping so high in my living room, spilling my beer mug all over the place.

 

Bucky Dent brought a legendary moment for Yankee fans, but I'm sure they wouldn't even think of including him in their top players ever.

[JaysAllMighty]

That's the thing. He did that. And it was awesome. But he isn't even a top 30 franchise player in terms of skills. Halladay and Delgado were stuck playing on s***** teams so they didn't win anything. Carter was surrounded by all stars and hall of famers. All that said I love Joe I really do. Just being realistic about what he was.

 

Carter was the greatest in the most important clutch situation of the Blue Jays history. Being one of the greatest doesn't necessarily mean in terms of skills. It's also about making an unforgettable moment in the fans mind and he did that. Of course skill wise, not so much.

[CrackerJack]

Best Blue Jays batting seasons:

Olerud 8.1

Bautista 7.7

Barfield 7.5

Delgado 7.4

Barfield 7.0

Moseby 6.9

 

None on list...

 

Moseby beats Bell's MVP year? I know George didn't walk much but that's surprising.

[TheHurl]

I was trying to figure out if Joe Carter would make my list of top 10 Blue Jays OF'ers. If I gave a look at the entire body of work with a heavier weighting towards time in Toronto ... including defense of course (so that Rickey Henderson wouldn't end up number 1 on the list based on his short tenure).

 

1. Jessie Barfield

2. Jose Bautista

3. Devon White

4. Lloyd Moseby

5. Shawn Green

6. Vernon Wells

7. George Bell

8. Alex Rios

9. Shannon Stewart

10. Joe Carter

 

I really think I'm missing some.

[TheHurl]

Moseby beats Bell's MVP year? I know George didn't walk much but that's surprising.

 

Defense and Baserunning. Although the wRC wasn't that different. 1984 Moseby was 126, 1987 Bell was 143.

[GD]

Defense and Baserunning. Although the wRC wasn't that different. 1984 Moseby was 126, 1987 Bell was 143.

 

That's a sizeable gap.

[TheHurl]

That's a sizeable gap.

 

yeah I meant to write not as large a gap as many would have thought. Moseby did have a 135 in 1983

[CrackerJack]

Defense and Baserunning. Although the wRC wasn't that different. 1984 Moseby was 126, 1987 Bell was 143.

 

dude's list was for "best blue jays batting seasons" ... don't know if that includes baserunning? ... shouldn't include defense (anyway Moseby didn't have an arm ... at least during his last few years with the Jays.)

[JaysAllMighty]

dude's list was for "best blue jays batting seasons" ... don't know if that includes baserunning? ... shouldn't include defense (anyway Moseby didn't have an arm ... at least during his last few years with the Jays.)

 

I don't see where it says that.

[Brownie19]

Carter was the greatest in the most important clutch situation of the Blue Jays history. Being one of the greatest doesn't necessarily mean in terms of skills. It's also about making an unforgettable moment in the fans mind and he did that. Of course skill wise, not so much.

 

One could argue Joe's homerun wasn't the first or second most "clutch" situation in Blue Jays history. Alomar's HR off Eck and Timlin shutting the door for their first every championship ranks well ahead of Joe's HR in my mind.

[Terminator]

One could argue Joe's homerun wasn't the first or second most "clutch" situation in Blue Jays history. Alomar's HR off Eck and Timlin shutting the door for their first every championship ranks well ahead of Joe's HR in my mind.

 

[JaysAllMighty]

One could argue Joe's homerun wasn't the first or second most "clutch" situation in Blue Jays history. Alomar's HR off Eck and Timlin shutting the door for their first every championship ranks well ahead of Joe's HR in my mind.

 

Wow, really? I guess we have a different opinion on what the Joe Carter moment was.

[Brownie19]

Alomar's ranks #1 in my mind. That was the breakthrough moment vs. one of the most dominate closers in MLB history. For me - it was all about winning their first ever championship. The 2nd one was great - but the first one (and the road to the first one) was THE most important moment in Blue Jays history.

[CrackerJack]

Alomar's ranks #1 in my mind. That was the breakthrough moment vs. one of the most dominate closers in MLB history. For me - it was all about winning their first ever championship. The 2nd one was great - but the first one (and the road to the first one) was THE most important moment in Blue Jays history.

 

Bing-f***ing-o.

 

(I could've taken the Wild Thing deep, or at least drawn a walk.)

[Jimcanuck]

f***ing clickbait Hurl, damn you

[bendera3]

I was trying to figure out if Joe Carter would make my list of top 10 Blue Jays OF'ers. If I gave a look at the entire body of work with a heavier weighting towards time in Toronto ... including defense of course (so that Rickey Henderson wouldn't end up number 1 on the list based on his short tenure).

 

1. Jessie Barfield

2. Jose Bautista

3. Devon White

4. Lloyd Moseby

5. Shawn Green

6. Vernon Wells

7. George Bell

8. Alex Rios

9. Shannon Stewart

10. Joe Carter

 

I really think I'm missing some.

 

Derek Bell, Jose Cruz Jr., Glenallen Hill, Raul Mondesi, Cory Snyder (although he didn't play for the Jays very long), and Mark Whiten are just some of the few that are were pretty decent. I don't know if any of them would crack your top 10 though.

[CrackerJack]

Derek Bell, Jose Cruz Jr., Glenallen Hill, Raul Mondesi, Cory Snyder (although he didn't play for the Jays very long), and Mark Whiten are just some of the few that are were pretty decent. I don't know if any of them would crack your top 10 though.

 

Davey Collins had a nice 1984 (too bad he didn't walk more), but his two years as a Jay isn't enough to crack the top ten.

[GeorgiaPeach]

I was trying to figure out if Joe Carter would make my list of top 10 Blue Jays OF'ers. If I gave a look at the entire body of work with a heavier weighting towards time in Toronto ... including defense of course (so that Rickey Henderson wouldn't end up number 1 on the list based on his short tenure).

 

1. Jessie Barfield

2. Jose Bautista

3. Devon White

4. Lloyd Moseby

5. Shawn Green

6. Vernon Wells

7. George Bell

8. Alex Rios

9. Shannon Stewart

10. Joe Carter

 

I really think I'm missing some.

 

Rob Butler

[Jimcanuck]

Frank Catalanotto played 4 seasons for the Jays, some as the primary LF, some in a platoon role

 

OBP > .350 during that time