Jays Trade Happ for Saunders

[John_Havok]

But again, it's highly unlikely that the directives are coming from the ownership. They don't tell the GM who to go get, they just approve the expenditures when it comes down to money.

[Spoonovic]

Is there any chance that Melky returns now?

[Abomination]

I wonder more if this might open the door to Lowrie or Drew at 2nd (AND possibly a pitcher)

[Stangstag]

AA is absolutely killing it this offseason.

 

Time to change your avatar?

[o2cui2i]

But again, it's highly unlikely that the directives are coming from the ownership. They don't tell the GM who to go get, they just approve the expenditures when it comes down to money.

 

what AA has done this off season falls in line with what he preached when he first started. It really stinks of Beeston changing the course in 2012. maybe The team did nothing last year because AA didn't want to be forced into more mistakes?who know....

[JaysAllMighty]

Is there any chance that Melky returns now?

 

Not imo. There are other positions requiring attention, SP, RP and 2B.

[GD]

Braves spend 44M+ on Markakis for four years, Jays pick up a better player for a 4M payroll savings.

 

Now bring back Dirks on the cheap, and you no longer have to fear the inevitable Saunders injury, since Dirks/Pillar should be a very respectable fallback while he's out.

 

I'd rather trade for Souza instead of bring back Dirks. It might be overkill, but Calhoun2.0 for Loup would be worth it. Assuming he can play CF, I suppose.

[canadiansportsjunkie]

Great deal. Perfect trade. Even if it doesn't work out with Saunders the deal itself is a no brainer.

 

I have to say I think Happ did a good job in his role and hope him the best!

[King]

[NorthOf49]

AA is absolutely killing it this offseason.

He really is. This trade presents crazy value. I'm starting to like AA again. Seems like he's learned stuff.

[King]

Damn I am pumped for next season. Can't believe it's only early December and we've signed Martin, traded for Josh Donaldson (!!!), Michael Saunders, among other moves.. Wow!

[jerb]

 

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Aside from Safeco Field, Saunders has hit his most HR's at Rogers Centre and Camden Yards.

[TRM]

He really is. This trade presents crazy value. I'm starting to like AA again. Seems like he's learned stuff.

 

I'm becoming increasingly suspicious the narrative about AA getting pushed into things in 2012 is true.

[Daniel Labude]

Now go get a starter and a couple of bull pen arms. Unless they see something I don't in Estrada we need a starter.

 

Course that offense may score so many runs it won't matter if Estrada gives Up a home run every start.

 

What an offseason so far.

 

Estrada is behind Sanchez and Norris for starter...still comes down to Spring Training though

[o2cui2i]

78 days left until ST

[Stangstag]

 

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Aside from Safeco Field, Saunders has hit his most HR's at Rogers Centre and Camden Yards.

 

Aaawww yissss. Saunders 30+ homeruns confirmed.

[Ziggyy108]

Didn't AA just say something this week about not trading any of our current starting pitchers? Just proves you can't take much out of these radio interview.

[King]

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 23s23 seconds ago

Blue Jays plan to make Michael Saunders their everyday left fielder. This is a good move. I expect him to thrive in Toronto.

[Stangstag]

Didn't AA just say something this week about not trading any of our current starting pitchers? Just proves you can't take much out of these radio interview.

 

Very true

[Ziggyy108]

I'm becoming increasingly suspicious the narrative about AA getting pushed into things in 2012 is true.

 

 

I think the Dickey move was made because he was still on a tight budget after the Marlins move and Ownership wanted an "Ace". Well at that time a HUGE part of Dickeys value was his potential to be an ace at low cost.

[RealAccountant]

Wow is this the real life or is this fanta sea

[TwistedLogic]

But again, it's highly unlikely that the directives are coming from the ownership. They don't tell the GM who to go get, they just approve the expenditures when it comes down to money.

 

I agree with you that it's rare, but in scenarios that involve very high-ticket type players, it does sometimes play a factor. Fielder is the absolute epitome of a owner stepping in and pointing out exactly what he wants. Anyone can look back at his signing, and you'll remember clearly that the Tigers came out of the blue, and it was soon discovered that it was because Illitch wanted to make it happen.

 

Just the way it was marketed, and the way Beeston spoke about it (especially his quotes in Davidi's book), it seemed like there was a higher involvement in the move. I'm not saying AA is completely innocent for those moves, because that's the same offseason where he made that atrocious Gomes for Rogers move, but I don't pin it completely on him either.

 

Regardless, all of this stuff is in the past, and he's on absolute fire right now, so what's done is done and we should all revel and enjoy what's going on now.

[havok24]

Russell Martin

Josh Donaldson

Michael Saunders

 

Absolutely perfect. Crazy offseason and it's only the 3rd of December. Damn I'm f***ing excited for next season.

[o2cui2i]

Didn't AA just say something this week about not trading any of our current starting pitchers? Just proves you can't take much out of these radio interview.

 

no one other than Happ himself thought he was a starting pitcher for the Jays going forward. So AA kept his word

[cusstown]

I'm becoming increasingly suspicious the narrative about AA getting pushed into things in 2012 is true.

 

I've thought that myself. The two trades just seemed completely out of left field for him given what he'd been doing the years prior, making cost-effective signings and value-driven trades.

[Angrioter]

Saunders --> http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/8879974/v20979095/42712-saunders-slams-mariners-to-dramatic-win/?query=Michael%2Bsaunders%2Btoronto

[Ziggyy108]

Only thing that worries me now with the Outfield is depth. Saunders is great but has a bit of an injury history. Im stoked for Pompey but he is unproven. Joey B has a little bit of an injury history himself. And Pillar is a huge question mark.

[King]

Chris Cotillo ‏@ChrisCotillo 1m1 minute ago

Sources: #BlueJays trading Happ could signify that they will soon be serious players for a big-time starting pitcher.

[canadiansportsjunkie]

Didn't AA just say something this week about not trading any of our current starting pitchers? Just proves you can't take much out of these radio interview.

 

Maybe AA never had Happ in his gameplan for the rotation which is why he got Estrada.

 

He's literally turning this into a video game off-season...

 

Boston can throw money around but AA is working the phones and being creative

[Dylan]

Already made this exact trade in franchise mode on the show. Aa is so slow.

 

Good trade.

 

Now to turn force trades on and offer Romero+Navarro for trout