Source: Vlad Guerrero's son, BlueJays and a posible verbal agreement.

[metafour]

I remember some people had Levi Michael to the Jays because he was an advanced middle infield bat. That guy sure busted fast.

 

I saw that bust happening a mile away. That "profile" of player is so easy to see as failing, and there is seemingly one of these in basically every draft: I'm talking about the clearly-not-elite "experienced" collegiate shortstop who either profiles as average at best offensively, or average at best defensively (sometimes both LOL), yet whom people still proclaim as a first round talent despite them CLEARLY not possessing the tools to ever be more than an average or replaceable MLB player. This player typically struggles his junior season after lofty preseason expectations; but they'll always have supporters because "they hit really well as a sophomore" or something similar.

 

Levi Michael, Deven Marrero, Russ Adams, Christian Colon, Grant Green, Reese Havens are all examples of this "guy".

[GD]

Still never been more disappointed by a draft than the Jays not ending up with Giolito. Then again I'm like 10 so

[NorthOf49]

I really wanted Gray, lol. When Gray went off the board, I wanted Guerrieri or Barnes. Felt like a consolation prize when Gray went to the A's and we got a guy who was committed to the same school that Gray was coming from.

 

And wow, 2008 was a garbage draft class. As good as 2005 was, 2008 was just as bad.

Really? I think 2008 was decent. Beckham obviously was bad but Alvarez, Hosmer and Posey were very elite advanced bats entering the draft. Matusz too as a pitcher and he became an elite prospect.

 

Plenty of guys became legit major leaguers: Alonso, Beckham, Smoak, Lawrie, Davis, Cashner, Cole, Chisenhall, Lynn, Miley, etc.

[TwistedLogic]

Still never been more disappointed by a draft than the Jays not ending up with Giolito. Then again I'm like 10 so

 

As heartbroken as I still am about that, it blows my mind to this day that he even got all the way to 16. That's probably what made it worse. I didn't think he slip past the top 10; biggest cocktease of all time.

[NorthOf49]

Still never been more disappointed by a draft than the Jays not ending up with Giolito. Then again I'm like 10 so

It's pretty crazy that the Nationals managed to nab the pre-season highest-rated prospect in four straight drafts: Strasburg, Harper, Rendon, Giolito.

[metafour]

I get over Giolito by realizing that had we actually landed him we very likely don't end up with Stroman with the very next pick. With Giolito being a well-over-slot signee I doubt we would have risked #18 on Stroman who was actually falling himself from where he was "projected" to potentially go. We probably instead go with an under-slot kid at #18 to help make up Giolito's bonus.

[TwistedLogic]

Really? I think 2008 was decent. Beckham obviously was bad but Alvarez, Hosmer and Posey were very elite advanced bats entering the draft. Matusz too as a pitcher and he became an elite prospect.

 

Plenty of guys became legit major leaguers: Alonso, Beckham, Smoak, Lawrie, Davis, Cashner, Cole, Chisenhall, Lynn, Miley, etc.

 

That second list you named, the plenty of guys who became legit major leaguers. It's a really mediocre list to be honest. Three good/great first rounders and a handful of decent major leaguers, you'll probably get that in most classes, but look at any other year prior, and the list of notable guys is just generally a lot longer. Since we're talking about 2005 already, here's a partial list of some names that were in that class for comparison:

 

1st rounders: Upton, Gordon, Zimmerman, Braun, Romero, Tulowitzki, McCutchen, Bruce, Ellsbury, Garza, Lowrie, Buchholz

 

Notables: Headley, Yunel, Gardner, Brantley, Pearce, Jackson, Bourjos, Joyce, Garcia, Romo, Hanson

 

Others: Reimold, Wood, Slowey, Hundley, Hellickson, Estrada, Niese, Venable, Richard, Lannan, Badenhop, Morrison

 

Selected but not signed: Posey, Lincecum, Axford, Davis, Avila, Cashner, Worley, Miley, Davis, Jennings, Smoak, Alonso, Hunter, Bailey, Alvarez, Fister, Lynn, Matusz

[TwistedLogic]

I get over Giolito by realizing that had we actually landed him we very likely don't end up with Stroman with the very next pick. With Giolito being a well-over-slot signee I doubt we would have risked #18 on Stroman who was actually falling himself from where he was "projected" to potentially go. We probably instead go with an under-slot kid at #18 to help make up Giolito's bonus.

 

This is true, but what if they took both Stroman and Giolito, and instead saved money by not taking Smoral way overslot? Pains me to think about that though, so I'll go with what you said, lol.

[TheHurl]

I agree. That's probably my favorite draft class since I started religiously following the Jays, not only because I remember how highly touted so many guys in that class were, but also because it had the added bonus that every guy had a great name, lmao. I'd say 1-9 all have awesome baseball names.

 

If you wanna see a monster draft class, look at 2005.

 

Though, while 2005 was insanely top heavy, I do think 2011 could end up being one of the deepest drafts ever.

 

2011 was by far the draft I followed the most, at least from a college point of view. I had probably 15 video subscriptions to watch college games and of course I went to Houston to watch Rendon play. Mariners, Pirates, DBacks, O's and Royals entire FO's should have been fired on the spot for passing up Rendon (one series and I predicted HOF'er...I stand by that today). This is why you don't make pre-draft deals (Royals).

[saskjayfan]

2011 was by far the draft I followed the most, at least from a college point of view. I had probably 15 video subscriptions to watch college games and of course I went to Houston to watch Rendon play. Mariners, Pirates, DBacks, O's and Royals entire FO's should have been fired on the spot for passing up Rendon (one series and I predicted HOF'er...I stand by that today). This is why you don't make pre-draft deals (Royals).

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you're not married...lol

[Spanky99]

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you're not married...lol

 

Not anymore...

[TheHurl]

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you're not married...lol

Divorced in 2011. Had a few years of The Bachelor over baseball to make up for.

[Angrioter]

Divorced in 2011. Had a few years of The Bachelor over baseball to make up for.

 

7 years of crappy marriage. Help me with a wise advice.

it's a pity my goats didn't understand when I thank you.

[ace3113]

Here are the names of some of the top Venezuelan players for July 2.

 

Outfielders:

 

Harvin Mendoza, OF, 5'11 183, L/L

 

Albert Guaimaro, OF, 5'11 190, R/R - 5 tools outfielder. Advanced bat. 5-12 2(2b) 1(3b) 4rbi 3r @ WWBA 16u

 

 

Daniel Montano

 

Victor Gacia, RF/1B, 6'3 202, R/R - Big and projectable but with now strength. Lots of raw power.

 

Daniel Rincon, OF, 6'0 160, R/R - Average tools across the board. 6.8-6.9 sixty times. Strong arm. Short quick swing. Good balance at the plate. Room to add strength.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx2t-t68IeI

 

Infielders:

 

Yoanny Carrizo

Miguel Hernandez

Jose Hernandez

Oswaldo Cabrera

Rafael Marchan

Lenyn Sosa

Plaz Peterson, 1B, 5'11 155, L/L

 

Catchers:

 

Ricardo Leonett, C, 5'11 175, R/R - Quick bat, some present strength. Bilingual. Smart kid. Good baseball IQ. Pretty good athlete for catcher. Nice hitting rhythm. Strong hands and forearms.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Kt6MYOr3c

 

Eduard Lemus, C, 6'1 190, R/R - Good raw power. Solid hitting mechanics. Room to add strength.

 

Alfredo Garcia

Gustavo Gómez

José Sulbarán

 

Abraham Gutierrez, C, 5'11 167, R/R - Medium athletic frame. Some present strength. Gap power now, with projection for more.

 

Right-handed Pitchers:

 

Angello Infante

 

Maximo Castillo, RHP, 6'0 184 - Already close to filled out. Strong athletic build. Hit 93 mph as a 14 year old in World Championship. Lots of international experience. One of the best young pitchers in Venezuela.

 

Alvaro Seijas, RHP, 5'8 175 - Was signed to play for La Tigres de Aragua as a 16 year old.

 

Angel Ortega

Gabriel Arias

Brayan Carpio

 

Anderson Paulino (DR) - Big and projectable with fastball at 88-91. Dropped to 84-85 in middle innings. Needs to improve command. Showed some feel for secondaries.

 

Left-handed Pitchers:

 

Jose Marcano

Jose Orta, LHP, 5'11 153

 

Outfielder Albert Guaimaro is one of the best guys out of Venezuela this year. I wonder if the Jays are in on him.

[Angrioter]

Here are the names of some of the top Venezuelan players for July 2.

 

 

 

Outfielder Albert Guaimaro is one of the best guys out of Venezuela this year. I wonder if the Jays are in on him.

 

Tell me about Carlos Guillen's guys.

[Deadpool]

Here are the names of some of the top Venezuelan players for July 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Outfielder Albert Guaimaro is one of the best guys out of Venezuela this year. I wonder if the Jays are in on him.

 

Sign 'em all... If we're going over the limit, let's make a mockery of the process.

[Angrioter]

Vladimir Guerrero Jr was in a showcase with the White Sox today.

[Laika]

f***ing whore

[King]

Chicago White Sox tryout ---->

Facebook

WWW.FACEBOOK.COM

 

Vlad wearing Cubs gear

 

Yeison Valdez wearing Jays gear

[Angrioter]

Chicago White Sox tryout ---->

Facebook

WWW.FACEBOOK.COM

 

Vlad wearing Cubs gear

 

Yeison Valdez wearing Jays gear

 

Vladdy Jr wearing Tigres Del Licey gear. Azules or Blue

[King]

Vladdy Jr wearing Tigres Del Licey gear. Azules or Blue

 

http://i.imgur.com/rWBL45L.png

 

Cubs dryfit

 

Not that it matters anyway, because these guys seems to wear gear from all teams

[burlingtonbandit]

so the reported deal fell through or what? Don't the teams not let players go to anymore showcases if they agree to a predeadline deal?

[King]

so the reported deal fell through or what? Don't the teams not let players go to anymore showcases if they agree to a predeadline deal?

 

That should be the case...

[Jimcanuck]

we all know impaler is going to f*** the jays through his son for some perceived slight

[King]

Time to do some digging

[Ehjays]

Maybe Jays backed out to go after something before July ...........We never know :0)

[TheHurl]

Time to do some digging

 

We need to get Ang a budget to investigate these things. I'd chip in if I thought he wouldn't spend it on a hooker for his mule.

[Angrioter]

We need to get Ang a budget to investigate these things. I'd chip in if I thought he wouldn't spend it on a hooker for his mule.

 

Los Canadienses son jodidamente graciosos

[HERPDERP]

I f***ing told you guys it's not over until it's over.

[Sorrow]

Have you heard anything Ang or is the rumoured deal for July 2nd with Toronto still the word around town?