Offseason roster thread 2014

[glory]

If all Crawford is at this point in his career is a 2.5 WAR LF, then I'll take the 3 WAR short-stop over him for the same cost.

 

If the Dodgers want to throw some other players in, then I'm willing to listen, but a 1-for-1 doesn't benefit the Jays at all.

[Abomination]

Who says no to this trade?

 

Bluejays send: Jose Reyes + Sean Nolin

Dodgers send: Carl Crawford + Dee Gordon

 

I have a feeling most people are going to say the Dodgers which is fair enough. But the Dodgers do have a glut of expensive OF's and a number of different options at second base and could have a huge hole at SS. So maybe their willing to sacrifice some value from positions of depth to get a shortstop? Wishful thinking?

 

The money is pretty equal too.

 

Another trade i would like is Navarro for Justin Turner or Scott Van Slyke. I think the Dodgers match up nice for a number of trades.

 

They do seem like a good fit. They really need to move 2 outfielders, and they likely have an extra infielder (unless they move Gordon to SS and Guerrero in to 2nd).

 

You have to wonder if a bigger deal might not work. Let's say Reyes + Buehrle + Navarro + Romero for Kemp + Crawford + Guerrero. I know Kemp's contract hurts (and for a long time), but short term this would really help both teams imo, and longer term Guerrero should at least help balance out Kemp a bit. We'd save about 8M in the deal next year (and could free up 7.5 more trading Lind, since one of the outfielders could move to first/dh) to hopefully sign Martin, and we'd have

 

C - Martin

1B - Bautista

2B - Guerrero

SS - Izzy?

3B - Lawrie

LF - Crawford

CF - Pompey / Gose

RF - Kemp

DH - Encarnacion

 

Our outfield defense is probably a wash, but our infield defense improves very dramatically at SS (even if it's Izzy), 1B, and C. Offensively we also improve quite significantly. The Dodgers also improve, filling needs at SS, C, and SP while replacing Kemp with Pederson. Crawford is probably equal production wise to the platoon of Ethier + Van Slyke.

[jaysblue]

If there is a team who could take on MB's contract, its the Dodgers. Though I wouldn't just give MB away as a salary dump, so if including him means getting someone like Van Slyke plus saving that money owed on him, it gives the Jays some cash to go after free agents or make other trades.

[jaysblue]

They do seem like a good fit. They really need to move 2 outfielders, and they likely have an extra infielder (unless they move Gordon to SS and Guerrero in to 2nd).

 

You have to wonder if a bigger deal might not work. Let's say Reyes + Buehrle + Navarro + Romero for Kemp + Crawford + Guerrero. I know Kemp's contract hurts (and for a long time), but short term this would really help both teams imo, and longer term Guerrero should at least help balance out Kemp a bit. We'd save about 8M in the deal next year (and could free up 7.5 more trading Lind, since one of the outfielders could move to first/dh) to hopefully sign Martin, and we'd have

 

C - Martin

1B - Bautista

2B - Guerrero

SS - Izzy?

3B - Lawrie

LF - Crawford

CF - Pompey / Gose

RF - Kemp

DH - Encarnacion

 

Our outfield defense is probably a wash, but our infield defense improves very dramatically at SS (even if it's Izzy), 1B, and C. Offensively we also improve quite significantly. The Dodgers also improve, filling needs at SS, C, and SP while replacing Kemp with Pederson. Crawford is probably equal production wise to the platoon of Ethier + Van Slyke.

 

After the way Kemp has hit in the second half and how he is turning out to be their saviour offensively, no way the Dodgers trade him now especially for that deal you proposed.

[o2cui2i]

 

Our outfield defense is probably a wash, but our infield defense improves very dramatically at SS (even if it's Izzy), 1B, and C.

 

not sure in what world Izturis is an upgrade over anyone at SS. he's barely a bench player in the majors. that was a pretty stupid 3 year deal.

[jaysblue]

not sure in what world Izturis is an upgrade over anyone at SS. he's barely a bench player in the majors. that was a pretty stupid 3 year deal.

 

Largest free agent signing by AA.

[GD]

Largest free agent signing by AA.

 

Melky Cabrera

[jaysblue]

Melky Cabrera

 

Sorry should I have been more specific - most years given to a FA.

[BTS]

not sure in what world Izturis is an upgrade over anyone at SS. he's barely a bench player in the majors. that was a pretty stupid 3 year deal.

 

I actually liked the signing. It hasn't turned out well, but I don't think it was a bad move at the time.

[GD]

I did not like it at the time at all. Still don't. I just don't like giving older weak hitting bench MIF's 3 year contracts above league min.

 

I dunno, his 3 years before that, if you adjusted for BABIP, were probably near league average bat wise. The contract was long though yeah.

 

I liked Aviles more. I really wanted to keep Aviles

[Atothe]

I did not like it at the time at all. Still don't. I just don't like giving older weak hitting bench MIF's 3 year contracts above league min.

 

I'm with you, I don't understand how you give a guy (just a "guy", nothing special) a three year deal. Yet he refuses to go for Darvish or Chapman. He needs to go get John Hart as an adviser.

[BTS]

I'm with you, I don't understand how you give a guy (just a "guy", nothing special) a three year deal. Yet he refuses to go for Darvish or Chapman. He needs to go get John Hart as an adviser.

 

There was every reason to believe Izturis was going to come in and provide league-average play, or close to it, at 2B. Yeah, 2/6 would have been better, but if you have the chance to land a guy who fills a huge hole, I can see why you throw the extra year on to get your guy. At the very least you're projecting 3 wins for $9 million over the 3-year term, and crossing your fingers that he provides more than that.

 

The FO gets a complete pass from me on this one.

[Mikeleelop]

Largest fa signing obviously Navarro. You see the size of him??

[Atothe]

There was every reason to believe Izturis was going to come in and provide league-average play, or close to it, at 2B. Yeah, 2/6 would have been better, but if you have the chance to land a guy who fills a huge hole, I can see why you throw the extra year on to get your guy. At the very least you're projecting 3 wins for $9 million over the 3-year term, and crossing your fingers that he provides more than that.

 

The FO gets a complete pass from me on this one.

 

Except he was 32 when he signed coming off a 82 wRC+, 0.8 war season. Anyways Maicer izturis isn't the problem, the problem is AA's decision making when it comes to the free agent market. Poor and indecisive, only one that worked out is Melky. I give him credit for Anibal Sanchez and Ervin Santana pursuits which ended badly (due to the players) but those are negated by the Darvish and Chapman fiascoes.

[RealAccountant]

Guyz who are the top relievers out there that AA can throw any excess cash rogers will allow this year.

 

Oh wait signing top relievers isn't that ninja's style

 

hmmm who are the mediocare relievers out there that AA can go after. The Frank Francisco/ Francisco Cordero types

[BTS]

Guyz who are the top relievers out there that AA can throw any excess cash rogers will allow this year.

 

Oh wait signing top relievers isn't that ninja's style

 

hmmm who are the mediocare relievers out there that AA can go after. The Frank Francisco/ Francisco Cordero types

 

After watching Janssen, Santos and Delabar fall off a cliff this year, you think the offseason should be about investing heavily in relief pitching?

[RealAccountant]

After watching Janssen, Santos and Delabar fall off a cliff this year, you think the offseason should be about investing heavily in relief pitching?

 

You know I always understand your sarcasm,

[GD]

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[BTS]

http://jobs.rogers.com/job/Toronto-Baseball-Operations-Analytics-Intern-ON/223012200/

 

 

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Aren't those jobs basically min-wage short-term contracts?

[BTS]

Yup.

 

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Length of Contract: 10 Months

 

It's crazy how they can offer downright insulting terms for skill sets in high demand and still get hundreds of applicants.

[Boxcar]

Aren't those jobs basically min-wage short-term contracts?

 

Lol interesting. Who is next up for that job? Perhaps BTS would like to try his hand before rage quitting after one season?

[Boxcar]

It's crazy how they can offer downright insulting terms for skill sets in high demand and still get hundreds of applicants.

 

It's a foot in the door to a dream job. Then you realize you're working for a bunch of morons who will never appreciate your talents, quit, and find a better job.

[BTS]

It's a foot in the door to a dream job. Then you realize you're working for a bunch of morons who will never appreciate your talents, quit, and find a better job.

 

The amount of really bright people who have passed through that front office must be staggering.

[Boxcar]

The amount of really bright people who could do a much better job than the people calling the shots that have passed through that front office must be staggering.

 

Fixed.

[BTS]

Fixed.

 

Sad but likely true.

[jays4life19]

^ You do know he has you on his IL, right?. You seem to respond to a lot of his posts. He can't see it.

[GD]

Aren't those jobs basically min-wage short-term contracts?

 

12.75 an hour

[Jimcanuck]

It's basic computer and stats stuff. Monkeys can do it. And, no matter how much value you put on it, the incremental value from honing stat analysis, or finding the "next big stat" is very minimal in the grand scheme of things.

 

The reality is, just about everyone thinks they can be a GM, and there are tons of former athletes, wannabe athletes and just plain fans who want a career in sports management, so the "high demand" of glorified typists is outweighed by the comparative huge supply.

 

But that's why most of the smarter guys simply steer clear of sports management/ops. You work for very little for a long time, and there are so few higher-paying, high profile jobs, it's not worth it to play the waiting game.

 

according to some, a guy who completed a first year stats course can be a baseball GM

[TDotttt2005]

according to some, a guy who completed a first year stats course can be a baseball GM

 

Well, according to most of the Toronto media, and many on this board, a guy who can look through a binder to play the percentages everytime can be a major league manager of a top 10 payroll team, fail miserably, and still deserve to keep his job.

[TheHurl]

Not really worthy of their own thread, but Jays have guys that need to be added to the 40 man that if left exposed might be candidates to be plucked. Do the Jays bother to add Andy Burns, Jon Berti or John Stilson to the 40 man? Taylor Cole is the other interesting name. If someone thinks they could stash him in their pen for the year someone might take a flier on him too.