Qualifying offer for Janssen

[TDotttt2005]

Seems that AA would be in the new wave of GM's who are not willing to pay big money for an established closer like Janssen. I think on the open market, Casey will get around 4 and 44mil, or in the vicinity (Papelbon's 14M being the ceiling). Given that price point and the fact that Beeston says payroll will go up next year (so I believe the opposite that it will in fact, go down), looks like he wont be returning to the Jays. We know that AA loves to collect compensation picks. My question is do we risk giving Casey a QO, which should be around $14mil? Do we think he would accept that on a 1-year deal? Would it seriously kill the Jays' payroll if he did?

[GD]

holy s*** no

[jays4life19]

No thanks.

 

Casey would be crazy not to accept.

[z3r0s]

holy s*** no

 

that being said, it wouldn't be the first time that I figured there was no way in hell a player is going to get more than 14M on the open market, yet they still decline arb.

[TDotttt2005]

No thanks.

 

Casey would be crazy not to accept.

 

Would he be, though? He's 33, first chance at a big money long-term deal. He'd be leaving a lot of money on the table over the years by accepting the 1-yr QO. The difference between age 33 and 34 is not a small one either, especially for someone who has been on the DL this year. I really think he would decline it.

[TheHurl]

I'd rather than Casey at 1 year $14, than 3 years $33. I'd rather not have either though.

[jays4life19]

Would he be, though? He's 33, first chance at a big money long-term deal. He'd be leaving a lot of money on the table over the years by accepting the 1-yr QO. The difference between age 33 and 34 is not a small one either, especially for someone who has been on the DL this year. I really think he would decline it.

 

I don't see tons of teams that will be lining up to lose a first round draft pick to sign a 33 year old reliever that throws an 89mph fastball.

 

4.39 FIP/4.29 xFIP. He would be crazy to turn down 14 million to test the market and be attached to a draft pick.

[Angrioter]

Great idea. ~16 millions for a closer.

[Atothe]

Hell f***ing no.

[bendera3]

No thank you. I don't think it would even take half that to lock him up for another year or two.

[G-Snarls]

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[Abomination]

There's no way in hell you qualify him. I love what he brings and certainly wouldn't mind him remaining a Jay, but no one in their right mind is going to pay that kind of money for an aging reliever with a bad shoulder, who relies more on intelligence and command than stuff. I can't see him getting more than 7M or 8M / year for 3 years, and that might be a player friendly deal.

[TheHurl]

Do we know what Balfour's original deal with the O's was? That should be Casey's market (and probably the same result)

[Nox]

I think on the open market, Casey will get around 4 and 44mil, or in the vicinity

 

Lol, we see this very differently.

 

What I think the market would bear: 2/$18M

 

What I would offer: 1/$2M, which obviously would not retain him. So, in other words, there's no chance I bring Jansen back.

[SAAviour]

I think he'll get $4.5/yr minimum, and I love him, but would not bring him back either. Maybe, possibly for 1 year at 4.5 million, no way I go 2 years and a qualifying offer is insanity.

[BigCecil]

Love Casey but since he has taken over in 2012 consistent decline in his Velocity...he used to touch 92/93. His K rate is scary this year.

 

He is often injured and has history of arm issues post TJ.

 

No QO and team friendly extension (which wont happen) is only option.

 

It does scare me though losing him after the train wrecks we ran out there to "close" for so many years prior to him assuming that roll. Coco Cordero anyone?

[BTS]

lmao

[reedjohnsonfan]

He might accept it. Maybe they can sign him to a deal with some option years?

 

Say what you want about the importance of relievers but there is a big hole if he leaves. Do you really want to deal someone from the minors for a reliever? Or do you sign one of the older closers in hopes of a 1-2 year deal? After Janssen, there is nobody reliable in the bullpen.

[Nox]

After Janssen, there is nobody reliable in the bullpen.

 

Is Jansen reliable? I mean, I guess he's as reliable as the average 88 mph muffin tosser but I certainly don't want that anywhere near high leverage.

[G-Snarls]

Morrow for closer 2015

[BTS]

Morrow for closer 2015

 

Eww $10 million reliever.

[G-Snarls]

Eww $10 million reliever.

 

Wasn't serious and if I was I'd buy him out and re sign cheaper.

Edited August 18, 2014 by G-Snarls

[xposbrad]

Seems that AA would be in the new wave of GM's who are not willing to pay big money for an established closer like Janssen. I think on the open market, Casey will get around 4 and 44mil, or in the vicinity (Papelbon's 14M being the ceiling). Given that price point and the fact that Beeston says payroll will go up next year (so I believe the opposite that it will in fact, go down), looks like he wont be returning to the Jays. We know that AA loves to collect compensation picks. My question is do we risk giving Casey a QO, which should be around $14mil? Do we think he would accept that on a 1-year deal? Would it seriously kill the Jays' payroll if he did?

 

You think Casey Janssen will get 4/44???? lol

He'll most likely get a 3 year 18-22m deal. I still don't know if your post is serious or not, if we should QO Janssen for ~14m.

[reedjohnsonfan]

Is Jansen reliable? I mean, I guess he's as reliable as the average 88 mph muffin tosser but I certainly don't want that anywhere near high leverage.

 

Well, he's more reliable than the other crap they have. I'm guessing they'll go the route and sign a couple of "ok" guys to short term deals and hope one emerges as the closer. There are a lot of older options that would sign for 1-2 years.

[xposbrad]

Almost seems like a troll job doesn't it?

 

Melky will get a QO. He'll decline and AA will get his precious 40th over all draft pick. That's the only QO I see being offered and would be shocked by any other outcome.

 

I'm hoping we can work out a deal with Melky. That 40th overall pick will not help us next year or the following, and I think Melky won't be asking for absurd amounts of money. Plus, the hitting will take a pretty big hit without him in the lineup.

[G-Snarls]

I'm hoping we can work out a deal with Melky. That 40th overall pick will not help us next year or the following, and I think Melky won't be asking for absurd amounts of money. Plus, the hitting will take a pretty big hit without him in the lineup.

 

I'm 100% for extending Melky. And I think AA will do it.

[Atothe]

I don't think Casey would even get a 2 year 14 million contract on the open market.

[Slider]

14M a year for Janssen? I would let him walk and give some of that money to Cabrera. I like Janssen as a Jay but there is no way he is worth that kind of money at his age and for a guy that gets injured alot. If the Jays could sign him way cheaper I would say let's do it. I'll be surprissed if we see Janssen in a Jays uniiform next season.

[JaysFan4Ever]

I like Janssen even after his recent struggles but considering he's making $4M this year there's no way I would more than triple that in a QO. He'd probably remain unsigned since who's going to part with a #1/#2 draft pick for him? A team will more than likely sign him, might even give him a bit of a raise to be a closer if they need one, but I can't see them giving up a pick for him too.

[kgm1]

LOL at a QO. I don't even see a two year deal happening. Personally I think they look at Sanchez as the next closer and we'll get the speil about they eventually want to move him back into the rotation . BS but that is what i think happens