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23 strikeout in 11.2 triple-A innings... that is not normal. Lots of swinging strikes too going through the pitch-by-pitch. Daniel Norris does NOT mess around.
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In 2 to 3 years we could see Hutchison,Stroman,Sanchez,Norris and maybe Hoffman .....without a single big contract.

I can dream can't I?

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Can we please keep the fapping to Daniel Norris and not a bunch of org guys? Thx.

 

Go back to fapping to Kevin Kiermaier u troll

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When Norris's command is on he is almost unhittable. His command has gotten away from him at times but the stuff is just so good from the left side. Hard not to root for a guy who has his makeup as well.
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Imagine if they hadn't made those trades in 2012...Syndergaard, Stroman, Hutchison, Norris, Sanchez. Plus a likely top 5 pick in the 2014 and 2015 drafts.

 

 

How high is Norris's value now and what could he get you in a trade? Not saying trade him, but maybe consider trading Hutchison in the off season?

 

Certainly don't want AA making these types of moves, but the team will need to get creative. Well, we said this last off season so don't hold your breath.

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Imagine if they hadn't made those trades in 2012...Syndergaard, Stroman, Hutchison, Norris, Sanchez. Plus a likely top 5 pick in the 2014 and 2015 drafts.

 

 

How high is Norris's value now and what could he get you in a trade? Not saying trade him, but maybe consider trading Hutchison in the off season?

 

Certainly don't want AA making these types of moves, but the team will need to get creative. Well, we said this last off season so don't hold your breath.

 

Value is low and pitching isn't as valuable anymore.

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Value is low and pitching isn't as valuable anymore.

 

I'm assuming sarcasm .

Controllable cheap pitching is always valuable but since few FAs will come here we have to keep our own.

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I'm assuming sarcasm .

Controllable cheap pitching is always valuable but since few FAs will come here we have to keep our own.

 

Isn't pitching king right now? So what's more valuable young controllable position players or pitchers?

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I'm assuming sarcasm .

Controllable cheap pitching is always valuable but since few FAs will come here we have to keep our own.

 

Pitching will always be valuable but in the current declining run environment, hitting is going to be the premium.

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A win is a win is a win... winning is a product of maximizing your run differential, which you do by piling up WAR. A 3-win pitcher is equally as productive as a 3-win hitter.

 

Regarding the changes to the run environment, a rising tide lifts all boats. Every team finds it "easier" to find pitchers who produce historically-decent unadjusted numbers.

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Daniel Norris is f***ed. Good God.

 

I'm never seen a Jays prospect rocket through the Minors like this. We are witnessing something special, folks.

 

Travis Snider, Brett Lawrie

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A win is a win is a win... winning is a product of maximizing your run differential, which you do by piling up WAR. A 3-win pitcher is equally as productive as a 3-win hitter.

 

Regarding the changes to the run environment, a rising tide lifts all boats. Every team finds it "easier" to find pitchers who produce historically-decent unadjusted numbers.

 

A position player is more valuable usually though because of the injury risk with pitchers. You might take a 3win pitcher over a 3 win position player if you only have one or two years of control left but I would think if you are talking about guys with over 4 years of control left you take the position player because pitchers are more likely to become hurt or less effective.

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Point is, trading Hutch at present value is a really dumb idea unless you're getting a young mlb ready cost controlled player. You won't get that so no point.
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Point is, trading Hutch at present value is a really dumb idea unless you're getting a young mlb ready cost controlled player. You won't get that so no point.

 

 

It could be Hutchison or Bautista, along with Buehrle/Dickey/Reyes. The general idea is that I think the team needs to create payroll room to plug the holes it has.

 

I like Hutchison a lot, don't get me wrong, it's just an idea although he's probably not at his peak value.

 

At the end of the day, I don't expect much to happen since AA has prove he can't address his team's glaring holes and I don't expect him to get fired. And even if AA was fired, Beeston would probably hire Cito Gaston to replace him.

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It could be Hutchison or Bautista, along with Buehrle/Dickey/Reyes. The general idea is that I think the team needs to create payroll room to plug the holes it has.

 

I like Hutchison a lot, don't get me wrong, it's just an idea although he's probably not at his peak value.

 

At the end of the day, I don't expect much to happen since AA has prove he can't address his team's glaring holes and I don't expect him to get fired. And even if AA was fired, Beeston would probably hire Cito Gaston to replace him.

 

Don't worry about AA, just hope that Beeston doesn't get to make it the decision on who the next gm is.

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