GDT(3/3): Toronto Blue Jays @ Boston Red Sux - Buehrle vs. Workman - 7:10 PM ET

[burlingtonbandit]

Like I get that the catcher had to move toward the baseline to catch the ball but the rule says you can't do what he did. MLB needs to sort this out before it determines anymore games..

[gruber92]

I do not understand the rule..

 

The catcher must provide a visible lane in order for the base runner to "see" home plate on his way home before he receives the ball. Once the catcher has possession of the ball,he can then block the plate.

[comeon sense]

Hutch should do well in houston,he loves hurling on the road.

[Daniel Labude]

Wtf...total ******** replay bias.....thats the definition of illegally blocking the plate

[wardhenke1]

So just to be clear; the rule is now that the catcher can block the plate without the ball, the player can't run into him with or without the ball and there doesn't have to be any clear lane for the player to run towards.

 

f*** me. f***. Me. What a stupid f***ing rule and interpretation. This should be the test case as to why this rule is utterly f***ed.

[o2cui2i]

The catcher must provide a visible lane in order for the base runner to "see" home plate on his way home before he receives the ball. Once the catcher has possession of the ball,he can then block the plate.

 

but the rule also says that the catcher has the right to get in the way if the throw takes him in the way.... the rule goes against itself and that's why its really hard to make the call.

[Angrioter]

Rule is stupid anyway. He could have easily been safe with a hook slide.

Do you prefer a coalition with player with damage brain or a bad call?

[wardhenke1]

but the rule also says that the catcher has the right to get in the way if the throw takes him in the way.... the rule goes against itself and that's why its really hard to make the call.

 

I hear you, but in this case he f***ing waited for the ball to be thrown to him while he was blocking the plate. He didn't shift over as the throw directed him in that way.

[burlingtonbandit]

Nice quick inning to keep the momentum

[gruber92]

Not sure if you could argue that it was the throw that forced the catcher up the line, if that's where the throw goes, he still has to be allowed to catch it.

 

It's one of those rules that umpires still don't really know how to call, which is why unless it's plainly obvious, it won't get overturned.

 

I hear you but the catcher can always receive the ball out in front a bit more to ensure a lane. The catchers aren't fully use to it yet.

[o2cui2i]

Do you prefer a coalition with player with damage brain or a bad call?

 

collision... we dont want the opposing catcher and the base runner forming a coalition.

[John_Havok]

The catcher must provide a visible lane in order for the base runner to "see" home plate on his way home before he receives the ball. Once the catcher has possession of the ball,he can then block the plate.

 

OFFICIAL BASEBALL RULE 7.13

Collisions at home plate

A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate). If, in the judgment of the umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player covering home plate loses possession of the ball). In such circumstances, the umpire shall call the ball dead, and all other baserunners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the collision.

 

Rule 7.13 comment: The failure by the runner to make an effort to touch the plate, the runner's lowering of the shoulder, or the runner's pushing through with his hands, elbows or arms, would support a determination that the runner deviated from the pathway in order to initiate contact with the catcher in violation of Rule 7.13. If the runner slides into the plate in an appropriate manner, he shall not be adjudged to have violated Rule 7.13. A slide shall be deemed appropriate, in the case of a feet first slide, if the runner's buttocks and legs should hit the ground before contact with the catcher. In the case of a head first slide, a runner shall be deemed to have slid appropriately if his body should hit the ground before contact with the catcher.

 

Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the umpire, the catcher without possession of the ball blocks the pathway of the runner, the umpire shall call or signal the runner safe. Notwithstanding the above, it shall not be considered a violation of this Rule 7.13 if the catcher blocks the pathway of the runner in order to field a throw, and the umpire determines that the catcher could not have fielded the ball without blocking the pathway of the runner and that contact with the runner was unavoidable.

 

To me, the bolded part made the call what it was. He couldn't give Melky a lane because he had to go up the line to field the throw

[o2cui2i]

I hear you, but in this case he f***ing waited for the ball to be thrown to him while he was blocking the plate. He didn't shift over as the throw directed him in that way.

 

it's a retarded rule because baseball is not figure skating.

[o2cui2i]

OFFICIAL BASEBALL RULE 7.13

Collisions at home plate

A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate). If, in the judgment of the umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player covering home plate loses possession of the ball). In such circumstances, the umpire shall call the ball dead, and all other baserunners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the collision.

 

Rule 7.13 comment: The failure by the runner to make an effort to touch the plate, the runner's lowering of the shoulder, or the runner's pushing through with his hands, elbows or arms, would support a determination that the runner deviated from the pathway in order to initiate contact with the catcher in violation of Rule 7.13. If the runner slides into the plate in an appropriate manner, he shall not be adjudged to have violated Rule 7.13. A slide shall be deemed appropriate, in the case of a feet first slide, if the runner's buttocks and legs should hit the ground before contact with the catcher. In the case of a head first slide, a runner shall be deemed to have slid appropriately if his body should hit the ground before contact with the catcher.

 

Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the umpire, the catcher without possession of the ball blocks the pathway of the runner, the umpire shall call or signal the runner safe. Notwithstanding the above, it shall not be considered a violation of this Rule 7.13 if the catcher blocks the pathway of the runner in order to field a throw, and the umpire determines that the catcher could not have fielded the ball without blocking the pathway of the runner and that contact with the runner was unavoidable.

 

To me, the bolded part made the call what it was. He couldn't give Melky a lane because he had to go up the line to field the throw

 

Ed Zackary

[bzapple]

Andrew Miller in for his final appearance with the Red Sox.

[burlingtonbandit]

Vasquez with highway robbery on that strike

[wardhenke1]

Honestly it's to the f***ing point that you'd almost believe that the conversation in the replay room goes something like this:

 

"Call from Boston."

 

"Hello? Can I check the last play? Sure...............OK runner was clearly blocked and the run should score."

 

"You are aware that this is Toronto we're talking about right?"

 

"Toronto? TORONTO? Why the f*** didn't you say so in the first place? Would've saved me some time. He's out. Or in. Whichever f***s the Blue Jays more, I don't care."

[Candy Maldonado]

shittiest strike call

[bzapple]

Vazquez stole that strike.

[jays4life19]

So does that mean Melky could have ran through him since the catcher was blocking the plate?

[o2cui2i]

So does that mean Melky could have ran through him since the catcher was blocking the plate?

 

we're up by 5 I dont want that collision happening.

[John_Havok]

I hear you but the catcher can always receive the ball out in front a bit more to ensure a lane. The catchers aren't fully use to it yet.

 

To me, a simple solution would be the following. You have batters boxes... Draw a catchers box in front of the plate and that's where his feet have to be until he has possession of the ball. If he has to move out of the box on the inside of the base lines or on the first base side of home, no problem. But if they move Into the foul territory up the third base line before they have the ball... If contact is made by the runner... He's safe.

[jays4life19]

we're up by 5 I dont want that collision happening.

 

Not the point.

 

Would that have been legal?

[burlingtonbandit]

Wow Miller dominated

[closetjaysfan]

Please tell me why Boston would want to part with this guy?

[o2cui2i]

Not the point.

 

Would that have been legal?

 

probably not...

[Angrioter]

collision... we dont want the opposing catcher and the base runner forming a coalition.

 

Thanks man. I did mean "colision" in spanish.

 

f*** me, I'm a donkey

[o2cui2i]

Thanks man. I did mean "colision" in spanish.

 

f*** me, I'm a donkey

 

bro, just blame auto correct, I always do. lol

[burlingtonbandit]

Whatever happened to having AA in the booth sometimes? Seems like he hasn't made an appearance with Buck and Pat in 2 years.

[wardhenke1]

I have no problem with the rule in principle. Some of the catchers were just getting f***ing cleaned by the batters, sometimes when they weren't even near the plate. But if what we just saw is the true interpretation of the new rule somebody in the MLB front office deserves to be f***ing lynched.

 

Metaphorically speaking of course.