Baseball Hall Of Fame reduces eligibility period to 10 years

[G-Snarls]

For the first time in more than two decades, the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum is changing its rules regarding the induction of recently retired players. Under the new system, effective immediately, players will remain on the ballot for a maximum of only 10 years, instead of 15.

 

Previously, players stayed on the ballot for up to 15 years -- as long as they were listed on at least five percent of the ballots cast by the Baseball Writers' Association of America in the previous year. Though that percentage remains the same, Hall of Fame candidates will now shift from the BBWAA ballot to the Era Committee system after a decade of eligibility.

 

"The Board is committed to keeping the policies and voting procedures of the Hall of Fame relevant," said Jane Forbes Clark, chairman of the board for the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum. "We believe the BBWAA has done an excellent job of honoring the criteria advanced by the Hall of Fame -- player's record, contributions to the teams on which the player played, character, sportsmanship and integrity -- to determine individuals who belong in the Hall of Fame by the highest threshold, a 75 percent majority. The Board believes these changes are necessary to ensure the integrity of the voting process moving forward."

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/baseball-hall-of-fame-changes-its-induction-rules?ymd=20140726&content_id=86398586&vkey=news_mlb

[G-Snarls]

Have to post this

 

[John_Havok]

For the first time in more than two decades, the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum is changing its rules regarding the induction of recently retired players. Under the new system, effective immediately, players will remain on the ballot for a maximum of only 10 years, instead of 15.

 

Previously, players stayed on the ballot for up to 15 years -- as long as they were listed on at least five percent of the ballots cast by the Baseball Writers' Association of America in the previous year. Though that percentage remains the same, Hall of Fame candidates will now shift from the BBWAA ballot to the Era Committee system after a decade of eligibility.

 

"The Board is committed to keeping the policies and voting procedures of the Hall of Fame relevant," said Jane Forbes Clark, chairman of the board for the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum. "We believe the BBWAA has done an excellent job of honoring the criteria advanced by the Hall of Fame -- player's record, contributions to the teams on which the player played, character, sportsmanship and integrity -- to determine individuals who belong in the Hall of Fame by the highest threshold, a 75 percent majority. The Board believes these changes are necessary to ensure the integrity of the voting process moving forward."

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/baseball-hall-of-fame-changes-its-induction-rules?ymd=20140726&content_id=86398586&vkey=news_mlb

 

Interesting, but a bigger problem is still the 10 vote maximum....and brain dead writers that haven't covered the game in 20 years

[Candy Maldonado]

Now Jeter only has to wait 10 years.

[wardhenke1]

Now Jeter only has to wait 10 years.

 

And Joltin' Joe only another 100!

 

[o2cui2i]

biggest problem IMHO is that there are too many hack writes who have voting rites with no clue what baseball is and couldn't recognize HOF qualities if they bit them in their mammoth posteriors.

 

the fact that Bonds and Rose are not in the HOF are two of the biggest examples of what it wrong.

[closetjaysfan]

biggest problem IMHO is that there are too many hack writes who have voting rites with no clue what baseball is and couldn't recognize HOF qualities if they bit them in their mammoth posteriors.

 

the fact that Bonds and Rose are not in the HOF are two of the biggest examples of what it wrong.

 

Rose is ineligible for the HOF by virtue of his agreeing to a permanent ban from baseball in 1989, that has absolutely nothing to do with writers, voting structure etc. Rose has be unbanned before he can be considered by the Hall. And Bonds... f*** that guy. You need integrity to be in the hall, and he has none.

[dineke]

And Bonds... f*** that guy. You need integrity to be in the hall, and he has none.

 

lol no, best player ever deserves to be in the hall, I don't care even if he raped my sister.

[TheHurl]

lol no, best player ever deserves to be in the hall, I don't care even if he raped my sister.

 

He also deserves to get into the Raping Dineke's sister HOF. Rose is ineligible after betting on a rape...although he swears it wasn't his rape

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

Raines not being in the Hall of Fame is a joke, end of story. The voters are clearly a bunch of old fossils who don't understand the value of walks.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

And Bonds... f*** that guy. You need integrity to be in the hall, and he has none.

No offense, but that's idiotic. It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Integrity. There's already tons of admitted cheaters in the Hall.

[closetjaysfan]

No offense, but that's idiotic. It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Integrity. There's already tons of admitted cheaters in the Hall.

 

4. Method of Election:

 

A. BBWAA Screening Committee — A Screening Committee consisting of baseball writers will be appointed by the BBWAA. This Screening Committee shall consist of six members, with two members to be elected at each Annual Meeting for a three-year term. The duty of the Screening Committee shall be to prepare a ballot listing in alphabetical order eligible candidates who (1) received a vote on a minimum of five percent (5%) of the ballots cast in the preceding election or (2) are eligible for the first time and are nominated by any two of the six members of the BBWAA Screening Committee.

 

B. Electors may vote for as few as zero (0) and as many as ten (10) eligible candidates deemed worthy of election. Write-in votes are not permitted.

 

C. Any candidate receiving votes on seventy-five percent (75%) of the ballots cast shall be elected to membership in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.

 

5. Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.

 

6. Automatic Elections: No automatic elections based on performances such as a batting average of .400 or more for one (1) year, pitching a perfect game or similar outstanding achievement shall be permitted.

 

7. Time of Election: The duly authorized representatives of the BBWAA shall prepare, date and mail ballots to each elector no later than the 15th day of January in each year in which an election is held. The elector shall sign and return the completed ballot within twenty (20) days. The vote shall then be tabulated by the duly authorized representatives of the BBWAA.

 

8. Certification of Election Results: The results of the election shall be certified by a representative of the Baseball Writers' Association of America and an officer of the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum, Inc. The results shall be transmitted to the Commissioner of Baseball. The BBWAA and National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum, Inc. shall jointly release the results for publication.

 

9. Amendments: The Board of Directors of the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum, Inc. reserves the right to revoke, alter or amend these rules at any time.

 

 

http://baseballhall.org/hall-famers/rules-election/bbwaa

 

 

Best HR hitter on steroids, yes. But he doesn't meet the criteria to be in the HOF, see rule 5. After 75 years I have my doubts they are going to change a fundamental principle.

[Dick_Pole]

Baseball's not the Olympics...how much lack of integrity did Bonds have when he did something that was frowned upon in other sports but not really enforced in baseball. Then when Selig gets egg on his face he retroactively decides to go on the witch hunt.

 

Maybe baseball should go after everyone who has ever committed adultery and blacklist them from the HOF. There's a lack of integrity there. But I would think the HOF would be pretty barren after that witch hunt. That integrity thing is just something they put in there but is rarely practiced what is preached. Rose's situation is different because he broke a very clear and strict rule and got himself banned, but outside of Rose and Joe Jackson is there anyone that has been excluded from the Hall for lack of integrity? A player that otherwise had passable stats but was excluded for being shady?

[CJ-Freeway]

Why isn't Raines in the Hall yet? I guess being a top leadoff guy can't get you in?

[Dick_Pole]

Back to the topic at hand, it seems like a good idea to reduce the eligibility. Why string along a borderline candidate like Morris along any longer? If a man can't be inducted with confidence by year 10....

[Dick_Pole]

Why isn't Raines in the Hall yet? I guess being a top leadoff guy can't get you in?

 

Same could be said of Kenny Lofton. At least Raines gets enough votes to remain on the ballot. They have very comparable careers.

 

A similar argument could be had for Jack Morris vs David Wells. The guys from the 80's definitely get a lot more leeway from the writers.

[John_Havok]

4. Method of Election:

 

A. BBWAA Screening Committee — A Screening Committee consisting of baseball writers will be appointed by the BBWAA. This Screening Committee shall consist of six members, with two members to be elected at each Annual Meeting for a three-year term. The duty of the Screening Committee shall be to prepare a ballot listing in alphabetical order eligible candidates who (1) received a vote on a minimum of five percent (5%) of the ballots cast in the preceding election or (2) are eligible for the first time and are nominated by any two of the six members of the BBWAA Screening Committee.

 

B. Electors may vote for as few as zero (0) and as many as ten (10) eligible candidates deemed worthy of election. Write-in votes are not permitted.

 

C. Any candidate receiving votes on seventy-five percent (75%) of the ballots cast shall be elected to membership in the National Baseball Hall of Fame.

 

5. Voting: Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.

 

6. Automatic Elections: No automatic elections based on performances such as a batting average of .400 or more for one (1) year, pitching a perfect game or similar outstanding achievement shall be permitted.

 

7. Time of Election: The duly authorized representatives of the BBWAA shall prepare, date and mail ballots to each elector no later than the 15th day of January in each year in which an election is held. The elector shall sign and return the completed ballot within twenty (20) days. The vote shall then be tabulated by the duly authorized representatives of the BBWAA.

 

8. Certification of Election Results: The results of the election shall be certified by a representative of the Baseball Writers' Association of America and an officer of the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum, Inc. The results shall be transmitted to the Commissioner of Baseball. The BBWAA and National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum, Inc. shall jointly release the results for publication.

 

9. Amendments: The Board of Directors of the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum, Inc. reserves the right to revoke, alter or amend these rules at any time.

 

 

http://baseballhall.org/hall-famers/rules-election/bbwaa

 

 

Best HR hitter on steroids, yes. But he doesn't meet the criteria to be in the HOF, see rule 5. After 75 years I have my doubts they are going to change a fundamental principle.

 

Hank Aaron admitted to doing drugs, one of Willie Mays teammates said he used speed, Sandy Koufax used anything under the sun for his bad arm, which he admitted. Mickey Mantle used and got an infection in his arm because of it in 1961. Ty Cobb had literally no intergrity, sportsmanship or class whatsoever on the field, and even assaulted a heckler during a game.

 

Guess we better kick them all out. Why, if you're so dead set against Bonds getting in are you not actively campaigning for all the admitted cheats and *******s from the past be kicked out using the same rule? I guess it's cool to hate Bonds without really thinking about why.

[GD]

If only we had signed him in like 2007 or 08.

[closetjaysfan]

Hank Aaron admitted to doing drugs, one of Willie Mays teammates said he used speed, Sandy Koufax used anything under the sun for his bad arm, which he admitted. Mickey Mantle used and got an infection in his arm because of it in 1961. Ty Cobb had literally no intergrity, sportsmanship or class whatsoever on the field, and even assaulted a heckler during a game.

 

Guess we better kick them all out. Why, if you're so dead set against Bonds getting in are you not actively campaigning for all the admitted cheats and *******s from the past be kicked out using the same rule? I guess it's cool to hate Bonds without really thinking about why.

 

Would I have voted for Ty Cobb to get into the Hall? No: but he was living in a time when racism was tolerated so I can see why he got in. Was there any suggestion that Mays, Mantle, or Aaron were *******s at the time they were admitted? Not as far I know. Personally, I don't think revoking someone's membership in the Hall should be considered. But, keeping out steroid users I have no problem with.

 

I think it is interesting that so many are linking the rule changes to a "keep the steroid users out of the hall" agenda. If that were truly their desire the Board of Directors could have simply amended the rules to disallow them completely without any say from MLB or anyone else for that matter. It seems silly to think that amending from 15 to 10 would keep some of the best players ever (on paper) out of the Hall. If they were destined to be in, they would have been voted on the first ballot.

[G-Snarls]

Why isn't Raines in the Hall yet? I guess being a top leadoff guy can't get you in?

 

Not enuff RBIz

[G-Snarls]

Again courtesy of Cespedes Family BBQ

 

http://cespedesfamilybarbecue.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/hof3.jpg

[closetjaysfan]

Why isn't Raines in the Hall yet? I guess being a top leadoff guy can't get you in?

 

Sadly, I think the main reason is the fact that he played in Canada for his best years. At the time, it would have been really easy to get ignored by sports writers catering to an American audience. I think that has changed now, mostly thanks to the invention of the internet. It does lend credence to the concept of dismantling the current voting structure in favor of one administered by current hall members.

[KingKat]

Sadly, I think the main reason is the fact that he played in Canada for his best years. At the time, it would have been really easy to get ignored by sports writers catering to an American audience. I think that has changed now, mostly thanks to the invention of the internet. It does lend credence to the concept of dismantling the current voting structure in favor of one administered by current hall members.

 

Played for the Montreal Expos and had the misfortune of playing in the same era as the most celebrated leadoff hitter of all time.

[G-Snarls]

Played for the Montreal Expos and had the misfortune of playing in the same era as the most celebrated leadoff hitter of all time.

 

Henderson also had power and RBIz. doesn't take anything away from how good Raines was. he should be in there.

[TheHurl]

Sadly, I think the main reason is the fact that he played in Canada for his best years. At the time, it would have been really easy to get ignored by sports writers catering to an American audience. I think that has changed now, mostly thanks to the invention of the internet. It does lend credence to the concept of dismantling the current voting structure in favor of one administered by current hall members.

 

Admitting to cocaine on the field is why he's not in. Doesn't matter what country he played in. Voters have their usual reasons why they can not vote him in (a lot of his value was built from 81 to 88...then it tailed off. He never had a big moment or award) but deep down most that keep him out probably feel like he should have been suspended like the others during the Pittsburgh cocaine trails.

[KingKat]

Admitting to cocaine on the field is why he's not in. Doesn't matter what country he played in. Voters have their usual reasons why they can not vote him in (a lot of his value was built from 81 to 88...then it tailed off. He never had a big moment or award) but deep down most that keep him out probably feel like he should have been suspended like the others during the Pittsburgh cocaine trails.

 

It's all this guy's fault: http://unclebobsballparks17.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/threeriversstadium006.jpg.w560h374.jpg

[TheHurl]

It's all this guy's fault: http://unclebobsballparks17.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/.pond/threeriversstadium006.jpg.w560h374.jpg

 

The Tripod? It's all Joe Dimagio's fault?

[KingKat]

The Tripod? It's all Joe Dimagio's fault?

 

The guy in the suit dealt drugs to the players involved in the Pittsburgh trial. Since you brought it up, I figured you would know this.

[TheHurl]

The guy in the suit dealt drugs to the players involved in the Pittsburgh trial. Since you brought it up, I figured you would know this.

 

Not that I'd know the guy to look at him. I know the stories about them having dealers in the dressing room and just outside the stadium. I was making a joke about the lack of an image appearing (at least for me...all I see is image hosted by tripod) and then a further joke about Pete Rose saying that Joe Dimagio had a huge cock

[KingKat]

Not that I'd know the guy to look at him. I know the stories about them having dealers in the dressing room and just outside the stadium. I was making a joke about the lack of an image appearing (at least for me...all I see is image hosted by tripod) and then a further joke about Pete Rose saying that Joe Dimagio had a huge cock

 

The "suit" in this case is the Pittsburgh Parrot costume.