Pillar hissyfit

[o2cui2i]

4 walks in 142 career ABs.

 

Guy was a 32nd round pick. He should be thankful that he has even been given a look.

 

They won't re-call him until September for this incident.

 

depends how Glen does and how long Jose is out

[o2cui2i]

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[TBJ12]

4 walks in 142 career ABs.

 

Guy was a 32nd round pick. He should be thankful that he has even been given a look.

 

They won't re-call him until September for this incident.

 

Not sure why being a 32nd round pick means anything.

[o2cui2i]

Not sure why being a 32nd round pick means anything.

 

forget when he got picked... he's at the bottom of the depth chart and his attitude just dropped him a notch. it's now up to him to prove he wants to come back.

[Dick_Pole]

4 walks in 142 career ABs.

 

Guy was a 32nd round pick. He should be thankful that he has even been given a look.

 

They won't re-call him until September for this incident.

 

He's not lucky...he earned it through good play in the minors...problem is he doesn't seem to get it so far in the MLB.

[BigCecil]

Resign Colby, should be at a discount if poor hitting season continues. Gose is not a major league player.

 

If Gose isn't a MLB what is Jackey Bradley Jr?

[TBJ12]

forget when he got picked... he's at the bottom of the depth chart and his attitude just dropped him a notch. it's now up to him to prove he wants to come back.

 

He's already done a great job of proving he belongs on an MLB roster, he just needs to figure out how to stay there.

[o2cui2i]

He's already done a great job of proving he belongs on an MLB roster, he just needs to figure out how to stay there.

 

throwing a temper tantrum, no matter how mild, is not the way.

[TBJ12]

throwing a temper tantrum, no matter how mild, is not the way.

 

I'm not sure you've ever seen someone have a temper tantrum. That wasn't even close.

[o2cui2i]

I'm not sure you've ever seen someone have a temper tantrum. That wasn't even close.

 

anything other than a nod and taking his seat was too much. the manager cant have players questioning his decisions. especially not right then and there in front of the team mates. if Pillar had a problem with it he should have voiced it after the game in Gibbons office.

[TBJ12]

anything other than a nod and taking his seat was too much. the manager cant have players questioning his decisions. especially not right then and there in front of the team mates. if Pillar had a problem with it he should have voiced it after the game in Gibbons office.

 

I understand what your saying here, but in the heat of the moment s*** happens and players/coaches react. I really don't see the problem with Pillars actions, obviously other do.

[o2cui2i]

I understand what your saying here, but in the heat of the moment s*** happens and players/coaches react. I really don't see the problem with Pillars actions, obviously other do.

 

the ones that matter do... and that's how he got a bus ticket lol

 

I'm not hating on Pillar. just saying that Gibbons cant have Ted Lily or Shea Hillenbrand incidents this time around. it led to his demise last time around

[JFD]

he was pinch hit for anthony f***ing Gose. Gibbons should be the one getting demoted.

[The Cats Ass]

he was pinch hit for anthony f***ing Gose. Gibbons should be the one getting demoted.

 

I'm thinking lesson learned here.

 

On the other hand, he was right. Gibby made a mistake there.

 

With pillar's numbers in the minors compared to gose's in the minors and with Colby back, why do we still have gose on the roster.

 

Resign Colby, should be at a discount if poor hitting season continues. Gose is not a major league player.

 

Do you guys know what OBP is?

[immature]

113 PA, 15 BB ... lets wait a little longer before we start to believe anthony gose's OBP is sustainable. Last night he was the last batter against Kuroda. Takes 2 obvious balls , swings at sinker on the corner, whatever probably should of left it based on inconsistency of ump last night then swings at sinker 3 inches off the plate, takes a ball and then again swings at another sinker off the plate and grounds out. Discrediting sample size point, but stuff like this dose not give me faith in Gose.

[Governator]

Do you guys know what OBP is?

 

Exactly... in fact Kevin Pillar's 2014 OBP is lower than his .225 batting average (figure that one out) while Gose's OBP is currently well above league average, not to mention Gose on base late in games is ya know, kind of a good thing.

[Convo]

Exactly... in fact Kevin Pillar's 2014 OBP is lower than his .225 batting average (figure that one out) while Gose's OBP is currently well above league average, not to mention Gose on base late in games is ya know, kind of a good thing.

 

Anthony Gose minor league OBP: .335

 

Pillar: .366

 

Pillar has looked awful in the majors but I'd still go with the larger sample size then Gose' 113 PA.

[Governator]

Anthony Gose minor league OBP: .335

 

Pillar: .366

 

Pillar has looked awful in the majors but I'd still go with the larger sample size then Gose' 94 AB.

 

Minor's means nothing compared to what they've done recently and at the major league level. Pillar has done nothing at this level and with that analogy Hendricks should be up here FT.

[Convo]

Minor's means nothing compared to what they've done recently and at the major league level. Pillar has done nothing at this level and with that analogy Hendricks should be up here FT.

 

Disagree. I'd go with larger sample minor league stats over scattered small sample major league stats any day (accounting for some performance drop in minor league stats).

[Governator]

Disagree. I'd go with larger sample minor league stats over scattered small sample major league stats any day (accounting for some performance drop in minor league stats).

 

Put me in coach, been tearin' up the minors.

 

http://www.citynews.ca/files/2011/08/c433a03d4c9ab8fa9cdde6c0c00c.jpg

[Convo]

Put me in coach, been tearin' up the minors.

 

http://www.citynews.ca/files/2011/08/c433a03d4c9ab8fa9cdde6c0c00c.jpg

 

Snider was actually pretty good early in his career until he got jerked around to no end. As I said though, some performance drop off is expected.

[KingKat]

Anthony Gose minor league OBP: .335

 

Pillar: .366

 

Pillar has looked awful in the majors but I'd still go with the larger sample size then Gose' 113 PA.

 

Is that difference in OBP so high that it cancels out the platoon advantage? I highly doubt that.

[Governator]

Snider was actually pretty good early in his career until he got jerked around to no end. As I said though, some performance drop off is expected.

 

Right... but I'm just saying just because you can hit in the minors doen't mean you're going to have success in the majors and your numbers certainly don't always go with you.

 

Gose's minor league OBP is almost right on par (little less actually) than his small sample size major league level OBP for this year. The Blue Jays' team average OBP is .330, Gose has been playing above that level both in the minors & majors all year and I think everyone should be happy with that. Pillar's 2014 MLB OBP is .220 and .242 for his short up and down career.

[Convo]

Right... but I'm just saying just because you can hit in the minors doen't mean you're going to have success in the majors and your numbers certainly don't always go with you.

 

Gose's minor league OBP is almost right on par (little less actually) than his small sample size major league level OBP for this year. The Blue Jays' team average OBP is .330, Gose has been playing above that level both in the minors & majors all year and I think everyone should be happy with that. Pillar's 2014 MLB OBP is .220 and .242 for his short up and down career.

 

Gose OBP in the minors last 2 seasons .316 and .311, respectively - that's very bad for a guy with his speed. Gose OBP this year doesn't appear to be sustainable and with the poor slugging I'm rather concerned about him being able to contribute at all offensively going foward. Why would anyone expect this to continue, I have no idea?

[Governator]

Gose OBP in the minors last 2 seasons .316 and .311, respectively - that's very bad for a guy with his speed. Gose OBP this year doesn't appear to be sustainable and with the poor slugging I'm rather concerned about him being able to contribute at all offensively going foward. Why would anyone expect this to continue, I have no idea?

 

Except those OBP %'s are working out just fine. Will there be some regression? Maybe, but maybe he's actually changed his approach. Dialing back to his last 2 years on a young player is not a great indicator. In 2012 + 2013 he had a combined 313 AB and only 22 total walks. He's had only 94 AB in 2014 and has already walked 15 times. He's seeing the ball better and getting on base more because of it.

[wilko]

This is going to happen to Pillar:

[Convo]

Except those OBP %'s are working out just fine. Will there be some regression? Maybe, but maybe he's actually changed his approach. Dialing back to his last 2 years on a young player is not a great indicator. In 2012 + 2013 he had a combined 313 AB and only 22 total walks. He's had only 94 AB in 2014 and has already walked 15 times. He's seeing the ball better and getting on base more because of it.

 

It's barely 100 PA DUDE!! ..... not to mention the kid sacrificed any power he ever had to get OB more. Bottom line: He's playing over his head and he still sucks offensively.

[Governator]

It's barely 100 PA DUDE!! ..... not to mention the kid sacrificed any power he ever had to get OB more. Bottom line: He's playing over his head and he still sucks offensively.

 

... except that's on par with his minor league OBP that you referred to.

[Convo]

... except that's on par with his minor league OBP that you referred to.

 

Not really since as I said the last couple seasons in AAA his OBP dropped. And you're still not accounting for major league performance drop. I expect a slash line of .240 .300 .310 might be realistic... would you be happy with that (.610 OPS)?

[Governator]

Not really since as I said the last couple seasons in AAA his OBP dropped. And you're still not accounting for major league performance drop. I expect a slash line of .240 .300 .310 might be realistic... would you be happy with that (.610 OPS)?

 

No and we shouldn't be, if he regresses that far than that's that but if he hits .240 that's actually improving his batting average, I don't know if his OB will dip that low, maybe team average or little less.