TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 I didn't want to jinx it but this is exactly what I thought he'd sign for. Excellent. I think when all is said and done, Foley was locked up for a lot less than people expected him to get, and Pentecost and Hoffman will cost a lot more than people expect. I feel like they'll both be at or slightly below slot. I hope I'm wrong on that and they have a ton of budget left over after the big three.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 Already posted that yesterday http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/3057-2014-Blue-Jays-Draft-Signings-Bonuses-and-Rumors-Thread?p=315780&viewfull=1#post315780
Ziggyy108 Verified Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Nice to get him locked up right away. Doesn't sound like we are gonna have any trouble with the top 10 guys we grabbed. The interesting part will be how much money can we give to persuade some of the later round guys to come.
admin Site Manager Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 I'm excited for Hoffman, and I don't think he's going to come as cheap as some people think. Of course injury doesn't help with his leverage, but this guy was probably going to be a top five pick in the draft if he wasn't hurt. I can't wait for him to start pitching here. It's like we got a top 5 pick.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 I'm excited for Hoffman, and I don't think he's going to come as cheap as some people think. Of course injury doesn't help with his leverage, but this guy was probably going to be a top five pick in the draft if he wasn't hurt. I can't wait for him to start pitching here. It's like we got a top 5 pick. Hoffman doesn't really have any leverage though. He won't be able to pitch in time for next year's draft, since Tommy John takes ~14 months to recover from. Teams won't like him as much next year if he turns down our offer, since he'll have rehabbed from TJ without their supervision. It shouldn't take slot.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Pimp-Foley baby Now TJS for him Every pitcher we draft we should just send for TJS right away. Get it done and out of the way. Especially with the way it seems pitchers are dropping like flies.
admin Site Manager Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Hoffman doesn't really have any leverage though. He won't be able to pitch in time for next year's draft, since Tommy John takes ~14 months to recover from. Teams won't like him as much next year if he turns down our offer, since he'll have rehabbed from TJ without their supervision. It shouldn't take slot. Yeah I know, but I still think he'll get slot, at the very least. But yeah because of that he doesn't have much leverage, sucks bad for him lol.
flafson Verified Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Every pitcher we draft we should just send for TJS right away. Get it done and out of the way. Especially with the way it seems pitchers are dropping like flies. I saw an interview with one of the major TJS doctors a couple of weeks ago and in there he said young kids would ask them for TJS because they thought it will give them extra velocity.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 I saw an interview with one of the major TJS doctors a couple of weeks ago and in there he said young kids would ask them for TJS because they thought it will give them extra velocity. I'm surprised the doctor didn't agree to do it. More money in their pockets! It is the US of A after all.
43211234 Verified Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 He is expected to be back on the mound at the end of May. Really would have maybe a couple weeks infront of scouts and probably wouldn't be starting. So really he has no leverage if he went back. But hes fully expected to sign. And assuming they already discussed a price tag to take him at 9 with an injury. Interesting they would use the protected pick to take him though. He would have still been on the board at 11. Both picks are protected.
TDotttt2005 Verified Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 If SRF was going to sign at slot, so early in the process, aren't him and his "people" idiots for putting it out there that he may attend FSU. Theres no real use in bluffing pre-draft, if you really are intent on signing, since it will just cause you to slide...so basically by putting it out there that he'd be a hard sign because of the FSU commit, when, in fact, he clearly wasnt...they cost themselves $1M?? Seems stupid to me.
flafson Verified Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 If SRF was going to sign at slot, so early in the process, aren't him and his "people" idiots for putting it out there that he may attend FSU. Theres no real use in bluffing pre-draft, if you really are intent on signing, since it will just cause you to slide...so basically by putting it out there that he'd be a hard sign because of the FSU commit, when, in fact, he clearly wasnt...they cost themselves $1M?? Seems stupid to me. Some of the claims say his velocity was down in his last showing which is why he dropped.
TDotttt2005 Verified Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Where is SRF being assigned to? Most likely GCL, per jaysjournal. Isnt that where most high school signees start?
Pulk_Pull Verified Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) I can fap to slot. All. Day. Long. Rounds 1-10 seem to be on track. Not sure if we can grab as much after market talent (Rounds 11+) as we are used to. Edited June 10, 2014 by Pulk_Pull
GD Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Most likely GCL, per jaysjournal. Isnt that where most high school signees start? Probably, but I'm making sure. Maybe they want to move him quick or something.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 I can fap to slot. All day long. Rounds 1-10 seem to be on track. Not sure if we can grab as much after market talent (Rounds 11+) as we are used to. Unless Zehner acts like a bitch and doesn't sign. That will f*** the Jays pretty hard because thats 200K of slot gone. Those senior punts should never be a question, and they should always be slam-dunk signs -- which is why I'm hoping it's just a rumor and the guy isn't about the screw the Jays out of a significant piece of their budget.
Pulk_Pull Verified Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Unless Zehner acts like a bitch and doesn't sign. That will f*** the Jays pretty hard because thats 200K of slot gone. Those senior punts should never be a question, and they should always be slam-dunk signs -- which is why I'm hoping it's just a rumor and the guy isn't about the screw the Jays out of a significant piece of their budget. I'm not sure we get the full value of a punted pick, but hopefully we can net 100k on it. Given how the top 3 picks shook out, I'm less worried about making it up in Rounds 11+. Would be very happy with one of Houck or Latz, although I'm thinking Latz goes off to school to work with his Papi.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 I'm not sure we get the full value of a punted pick, but hopefully we can net 100k on it. Given how the top 3 picks shook out, I'm less worried about making it up in Rounds 11+. Would be very happy with one of Houck or Latz, although I'm thinking Latz goes off to school to work with his Papi. I'd be happiest with Houck
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 I've read that Shafer will sign for slot. What have you heard about Zehner? Nothing actually. I don't know why I wrote that. The tards at HFBoards for whatever reason were under the impression that Zehner isn't a sure sign, and for some reason I thought I had read something about it myself, but when I checked I couldn't find anything. So I went back in this thread and realized that I hadn't read anything about Zehner and that I was actually thinking about Wellbrock (who isn't an issue, since he's after the first ten rounds): Sign on the dotted line Chase So that's my bad. Still, for whatever reason, people on HF believe that he's undecided. This is the exact quote: "The surprise to me is that the 7th pick Zack Zehner is undecided on whether he's going to sign or not. That's almost 200k in slot money. I just find it odd that a punt pick would be undecided. Seems like the 7 through 10 should be automatics on the cheap so we can sign guys like Thomas over slot." I don't know what they're basing that off of, but I'm coming up with nothing, maybe you can find something? Regardless, I really hope it isn't true.
Trouba95 Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 King, where does SRF pitch this yr? GCL? Bluefield? Has there been any indication via twitter?
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 I can look, what a mixup! Some things to update on the table -Wells signing for slot -Miller and Wellbrock are signing. Unless I missed something, there still isn't anything concrete on Wells' actual signing number. The Miller and Wellbrock signings are also not confirmed (that article didn't really say anything about Miller actually having signed, and Wellbrock's tweet could mean he's just going to Dunedin to get a physical). That being said, I'll put Miller and Wellbrock down as signing for now, but not gonna put a number on Wells till it's official.
Atothe Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 I would bet a lot of money on him starting in the GCL. He could see an end of the season promotion to Bluefield though. Unless he's hurt dun dun duuuuuuah!
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 Zehner, Reilly follow Torres on second day of Major League Draft BY JOSHUA D. SCROGGIN Zehner hit .316 with seven doubles, three triples, three home runs and 16 RBI, platooning in left field for the first two months of the season before earning the starting job full-time in mid April. He was nowhere to be found on Baseball America’s top 500. Now, the 6-foot-4, 215-pound junior left fielder from San Diego will have to decide between a lucrative bonus for signing this year or coming back to potentially bat third for a Mustangs team looking to defend its first Big West Conference title next season. “Everyone wants to get drafted,” Zehner said. “You want to play pro ball. I think I’m just going to have to sit down with my parents and talk about the opportunities I have on both sides and make the best decision for my career and my family.” MLB’s assigned bonus value for the pick is $192,400. The Blue Jays are not locked into offering Zehner that amount, which is negotiable, and the former Santa Barbara City College transfer could improve his draft stock by returning for another year and moving up in the draft. Seniors, however, traditionally command significantly lower bonuses, and only two seniors were selected in the first three rounds this year.
TwistedLogic Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2014 Author Posted June 10, 2014 http://www.insidenova.com/sports/prince_william/nick-wells-scheduled-to-sign-with-toronto/article_95321040-ede2-11e3-b349-001a4bcf887a.html I've read it. Wells said Toronto is paying slot for the position he was selected. Wells declined to say the bonus amount he will receive, but MLB said the slot value for the No. 83 overall pick is $661,800. He said "slot" but we don't know if it's exact slot or not. He's declining to say the actual amount. BA or someone would have posted the number by now had it been confirmed. There's no rush needed to update the OP, we've got him as signing, that's good enough until we get something concrete Even BBB don't have a number in their table, all they have is "Near/at slot". lol Posted ~10 minutes ago, ~5 posts above! Sorry got so many pages open, hard to keep track.
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