Official Fantasy Baseball Advice Thread

[Terminator]

I agree with your sentiments gentlemen but if it's a bunch of Blue Jays fans it might be the other way around and Espinal could be the best one to trade. In my league here amongst my friends in Denver, Rockies are always overvalued.

[TwistedLogic]

Suzuki or Stanton?

[TwistedLogic]

Can't believe it came to this but I dropped Semien today. Guy is absolute trash this year and was actively hurting my team. Aside from all the negative point performances, he was hogging a roster spot. With Franco, Bichette, Turner and Muncy also on my team, I never had playing time for him and with how much I'm min-maxing my team this year (10 claims a weak in a 10-team league means lots of decent starters available to stream), it was a potential loss of 20-30 points on that roster spot on a daily basis.

 

I kept telling myself he always heats up in May but we're halfway through May and he's still a bum. Despite that, it never even occured to me to drop him until I saw Jean Segura sitting in FA with 150 points (nearly 3x Semien) and elite Statcast ratings this year. Had to do it.

 

(-) Semien (39.8 points, 1.4 FP/G)

(+) Segura (149.2 points, 5.7 FP/G)

 

 

[Carlos Danger]

Can't believe it came to this but I dropped Semien today. Guy is absolute trash this year and was actively hurting my team. Aside from all the negative point performances, he was hogging a roster spot. With Franco, Bichette, Turner and Muncy also on my team, I never had playing time for him and with how much I'm min-maxing my team this year (10 claims a weak in a 10-team league means lots of decent starters available to stream), it was a potential loss of 20-30 points on that roster spot on a daily basis.

 

I kept telling myself he always heats up in May but we're halfway through May and he's still a bum. Despite that, it never even occured to me to drop him until I saw Jean Segura sitting in FA with 150 points (nearly 3x Semien) and elite Statcast ratings this year. Had to do it.

 

(-) Semien (39.8 points, 1.4 FP/G)

(+) Segura (149.2 points, 5.7 FP/G)

 

 

 

Highlights a huge difference between Dynasty leagues and others... I don't think anyone in Dynasty would even consider for half a second dropping Semien over Segura on May 12th in a 162 game season... Hence, I like Dynasty and the strategic thinking vs redraft leagues etc which I don't play anymore.. That is just me though...

[jaysblue]

Can't believe it came to this but I dropped Semien today. Guy is absolute trash this year and was actively hurting my team. Aside from all the negative point performances, he was hogging a roster spot. With Franco, Bichette, Turner and Muncy also on my team, I never had playing time for him and with how much I'm min-maxing my team this year (10 claims a weak in a 10-team league means lots of decent starters available to stream), it was a potential loss of 20-30 points on that roster spot on a daily basis.

 

I kept telling myself he always heats up in May but we're halfway through May and he's still a bum. Despite that, it never even occured to me to drop him until I saw Jean Segura sitting in FA with 150 points (nearly 3x Semien) and elite Statcast ratings this year. Had to do it.

 

(-) Semien (39.8 points, 1.4 FP/G)

(+) Segura (149.2 points, 5.7 FP/G)

 

 

 

If you had a bench spot available, would have held onto Semien, but yes thus far he hasn't been rosterable in a 10-team league. I haven't played in a redraft 10-team league in ages or almost a decade. I stick mostly with dynasty and will do the odd points league on the BJMB here.

 

Overall, different strategies for sure.

[TwistedLogic]

Highlights a huge difference between Dynasty leagues and others... I don't think anyone in Dynasty would even consider for half a second dropping Semien over Segura on May 12th in a 162 game season... Hence, I like Dynasty and the strategic thinking vs redraft leagues etc which I don't play anymore.. That is just me though...

 

100%. Would have never dropped him in a dynasty.

 

I actually like the fast-paced nature of this type of league though. Keeps me a lot more engaged.

[TwistedLogic]

So I traded Kyle Tucker and Aaron Loup for Seiya Suzuki and Emmanuel Clase.

 

I then flipped Suzuki for Giancarlo Stanton.

 

And then I traded Stanton for Yordan Alvarez.

 

Out: Tucker, Loup

In: Alvarez, Clase

[Laika]

Tucker is awesome. Really hate the first leg of that but getting Alvarez in the end makes it fine. But you lose SB.

[TwistedLogic]

Tucker is awesome. Really hate the first leg of that but getting Alvarez in the end makes it fine. But you lose SB.

 

Yeah I just had to do it. Alvarez is a statcast god with 7.53 points per game in this league, which is actually better than anyone on my team (which includes Soto and Vladdy lol).

 

If it was a category league I might have thought twice about it.

[TwistedLogic]

After weeks of wheeling and dealing in the most fun and fast-paced league I've ever been a part of (I've made 24 trades, lol), my team is officially in a place where I feel it is essentially "complete" and how I want it. Pretty much any movement from now on will be around the fringes to facilitate injured players, etc.

 

[TwistedLogic]

So I have Ohtani in this league, who gets 100% of his points credit on both sides of the ball regardless of where he's slotted. Essentially, I can have him sitting in an SP slot all week long and still get full credit for his offensive points.

 

This has resulted in Ohtani being worth 370 points so far this season despite not even really getting going with the bat yet.

 

So naturally, everyone wants Ohtani and people have been making godfather offers all season long for him.

 

Here's the dilemma: A two-for-one trade with another superstar bat and another ace for Ohtani is still almost never worth it for me. Example: Let's say Bryce Harper and Logan Gilbert are at 300 points and Ohtani alone is at 290. In a vacuum, the points say its a fair trade but the extra roster spot I get with Ohtani being a 2-in-1 player makes it so that even a random 100 point FA pickup skews the value heavily in Ohtani's favor.

 

Now I have a potential trade offer floating around that has tempted me into considering an Ohtani move for the first time.

 

Out: Ohtani (370 points), Springer (187 points), Lyles (123 points, 17.59 FP/G)

In: Trout (260 points), Harper (222 points), Gallen (196 points, 39.21 FP/G), Tatis (0 points)

 

Lyles is a just a streamer and would be dropped if I didn't make the trade so he isn't a factor in the deal.

 

It's essentially Ohtani and Springer for Trout, Harper, Gallen and Tatis.

 

The other dilemma is that I have Soto (240 points) and Yordan (220 points) already, so even moving Springer in this deal would give me Soto, Trout, Harper, Yordan, Teoscar and Tatis for 3 OF spots, lmao. You could fit one in the utility spot, but that's still not ideal because I have Segura/Trea Turner at 2B and Bichette/Franco at SS, so my UT spot is pretty busy with superstar players as well.

 

I have no idea what the hell to do lol. The trade being offered feels like a huge get but the way roster construction works in this league it might be pretty bad for me.

[connorp]

After weeks of wheeling and dealing in the most fun and fast-paced league I've ever been a part of (I've made 24 trades, lol), my team is officially in a place where I feel it is essentially "complete" and how I want it. Pretty much any movement from now on will be around the fringes to facilitate injured players, etc.

 

 

Depends what your cup of tea is. If you enjoy playing video games on “rookie” and killing the competition, seems like a great league. If you like to put it on all-star mode, prob not the best

[connorp]

I mean you literally have the first 5 picks of the money league Yahoo draft my kid did that I’m co-managing

 

Then you have a bunch of legit 2nd round talent that was 2nd talent before the draft

[TwistedLogic]

Depends what your cup of tea is. If you enjoy playing video games on “rookie” and killing the competition, seems like a great league. If you like to put it on all-star mode, prob not the best

 

I'm kind of in a weird place between being what I consider a generally smart-ish baseball fan and being a total fantasy noob. I'm steamrolling this league but have no chance in a league on this forum for example. Like in BORED I have no idea what I'm doing because category leagues are just really confusing to me. A points league is really easy to grasp for me as someone who's never really done fantasy before while building a team from scratch.

 

Everyone in this league is pretty much just as inexperienced as me, which kind of happened by dumb luck. We just put an open invite to people in our Discord and this was the group that we ended up with haha.

[Daniel Labude]

I'm kind of in a weird place between being what I consider a generally smart-ish baseball fan and being a total fantasy noob. I'm steamrolling this league but have no chance in a league on this forum for example. Like in BORED I have no idea what I'm doing because category leagues are just really confusing to me. A points league is really easy to grasp for me as someone who's never really done fantasy before while building a team from scratch.

 

Everyone in this league is pretty much just as inexperienced as me, which kind of happened by dumb luck. We just put an open invite to people in our Discord and this was the group that we ended up with haha.

 

Discord? Which one?

[Jimcanuck]

I'm kind of in a weird place between being what I consider a generally smart-ish baseball fan and being a total fantasy noob. I'm steamrolling this league but have no chance in a league on this forum for example. Like in BORED I have no idea what I'm doing because category leagues are just really confusing to me. A points league is really easy to grasp for me as someone who's never really done fantasy before while building a team from scratch.

 

Everyone in this league is pretty much just as inexperienced as me, which kind of happened by dumb luck. We just put an open invite to people in our Discord and this was the group that we ended up with haha.

 

As commish, I would veto most of your deals. Like, wft?

 

I'm in an off board league that's also not too competitive, some guys are trying to get the players on their favourite MLB teams. Makes for some hilarity.

[TwistedLogic]

Discord? Which one?

 

Those CBA discussion and free agent frenzy megathreads I was making on Reddit created a small community in the comment sections of those threads among people who were regularly visiting and participating in those posts. As the CBA was ending, they didn't want to lose touch so we decided to make a Discord. It's not a huge community, just over 100 people and far fewer than that active, but it's pretty chill and has gotten fairly tight-knit because of the GameDay discussion and fantasy channels.

[TwistedLogic]

As commish, I would veto most of your deals. Like, wft?

 

I'm in an off board league that's also not too competitive, some guys are trying to get the players on their favourite MLB teams. Makes for some hilarity.

 

lmao. That's what makes this league so fun, there are so many trades. Like there have probably been nearly a hundred trades already a month into the season. It's like the MLB trade deadline all the time.

[connorp]

lmao. That's what makes this league so fun, there are so many trades. Like there have probably been nearly a hundred trades already a month into the season. It's like the MLB trade deadline all the time.

 

You can trade all day but there no way you should end up with the Top 5 ranked players in Yahoo, 2 of the top 3 pitchers, and a bunch of legit 2nd rounders lol. But it’s great to see the enthusiasm and not trying to rain on your parade:)

[Terminator]

I'm kind of in a weird place between being what I consider a generally smart-ish baseball fan and being a total fantasy noob.

 

Interesting theory but I'm going to have to disagree here. I'd like to introduce your unbridled affinity for Greg Bird (currently slashing .143/.313/.273 for Scranton) as Exhibit A.

[connorp]

Interesting theory but I'm going to have to disagree here. I'd like to introduce your unbridled affinity for Greg Bird (currently slashing .143/.313/.273 for Scranton) as Exhibit A.

 

The guy can rake against ST pitching but gets dominated by minor league pitching

[TwistedLogic]

You can trade all day but there no way you should end up with the Top 5 ranked players in Yahoo, 2 of the top 3 pitchers, and a bunch of legit 2nd rounders lol. But it’s great to see the enthusiasm and not trying to rain on your parade:)

 

lmao, I agree. And I doubt anyone's interested in this but it's fun for me to relive my first month in this league so here's how I built the roster:

 

Draft:

 

R1: Shohei Ohtani

R2: Matt Olson

R3: Wander Franco

R4: Manny Machado

R5: George Springer

R6: Teoscar Hernandez

R7: Jacob DeGrom

R8: Frankie Montas

R9: Adley Rutschman

R10: Max Muncy

R11: J.D. Martinez

R12: Sean Manaea

R13: Spencer Torkelson

R14: Chris Taylor

R15: Sonny Gray

R16: Blake Treinen

R17: Kike Hernandez

R18: Adam Wainwright

R19: Colin McHugh

R20: Alejandro Kirk

R21: Aaron Loup

R22: Kendall Graveman

R23: Drew Steckenreider

R24: Ryan Yarbrough

R25: Tim Mayza

R26: Adam Cimber

 

Transaction Timeline:

 

- Claim Julio Rodriguez (Drop Kike Hernandez)

 

- Claim Stephen Strasburg (To IL)

 

- Claim Kyle Hendricks (Drop Ryan Yarbrough)

 

- Claim Daulton Jefferies

 

- Claim Danny Jansen

 

- Claim Kike Hernandez

 

- Claim Tylor Megill (Drop Julio Rodriguez)

 

- Claim J.P. Feiyereisen

 

- Claim Alex Cobb

 

- Claim Julio Rodriguez

 

- Claim Marcell Ozuna

 

- TRADE #1: Received Marcus Semien in exchange for Julio Rodriguez | This trade turned out to be an L for me. J-Rod still has value in this league while I was recently forced to drop Semien, who is currently one of the worst players in baseball.

 

- Claim Sean Murphy

 

- Claim Will Crowe

 

- Claim Andrew Heaney (Drop Daulton Jefferies)

 

- Claim Zack Collins (Drop Alejandro Kirk)

 

- Claim Victor Arano

 

- TRADE #2: Received Jose Berrios in exchange for Kyle Hendricks | This will most likely be a win down the road for me but we all thought this was a fleece at the time and this has been an L for me so far. Hendricks has 136 points, Berrios is at 77.

 

- TRADE #3: Received Clayton Kershaw and Jesus Sanchez in exchange for Adam Wainwright, Marcell Ozuna and Sonny Gray. | This trade was considered a bad move by the guys here on BJMB when I made it. Ozuna and Sanchez have both been non-factors so far, and Sonny Gray has been on the IL for most of the season. Kershaw was looking like a big W for me over Wainwright but he just went on the IL so this is still up in the air.

 

- Claim Tony Gonsolin

 

- Claim Daulton Jefferies

 

- Claim Paul Blackburn (Drop Drew Steckenreider)

 

- TRADE #4: Received Yu Darvish in exchange for Daulton Jefferies. | This was one of the most hilarious fleeces of the season in our league at this point, even though Jefferies had been pitching exceptionally at that point and also had the bonus of bot SP/RP eligibility. I eventually sent this guy Jake Odorizzi for free to make this deal less of an embarassment for him. Looking back now, Darvish has actually struggled while Odorizzi has been lights out lately and Jefferies is still a solid contributor so the guy is actually really happy with his end of the deal at this point. It didn't matter for me whether Darvish struggled or not, however, because he never threw a pitch for me.

 

- Claim Bruce Zimmermann

 

- Claim Dillon Peters

 

- TRADE #5: Received Kevin Gausman and Alek Manoah in exchange for Yu Darvish, Sean Manaea and Alex Cobb. | People at the time actually thought I lost this trade, including the guy I traded with. It did have the potential to look bad but I made the homer trade here and it's paid off in spades so far. Both Gausman and Manoah have been better for points than any of the three guys I gave up. My favorite deal of the season.

 

- TRADE #6: Received Max Scherzer and Bryce Harper in exchange for Tylor Megill, Stephen Strasburg, J.D. Martinez and Collin McHugh. | Scherzer vs. Megill was a relatively tough choice at the time and has been pretty even since then (besides one bad start from Megill). Harper for J.D. Martinez and the other guys has been exactly as good as it looked, although again, Harper never played a game for me.

 

- TRADE #7: Received Juan Soto and Raisel Iglesias in exchange for Bryce Harper and Tony Gonsolin. | Phillies fan homer that desperately wanted Harper. Thank you, lol.

 

- TRADE #8: Received Jordan Romano, Kris Bryant and German Marquez in exchange for Tim Mayza, Bruce Zimmermann, Kike Hernandez and Danny Jansen. | This looked really good for me at the time but Romano has not really separated himself from the pack of relievers and has brutal Statcast peripherals. Marquez and Kike have both been terrible and were each respectively dropped while Zimmermann has been excellent for the guy I traded him to. Jansen and Bryant both have been on IL since the deal (until Jansen coming back today).

 

- TRADE #9: Received Jhoan Duran in exchange for German Marquez. | The guy who traded me Marquez in the above deal later picked up Duran, who I had eyes on for several days without having a roster spot to pick him up with. I asked him if he wanted Marquez back for his recent claim and he siad sure. Very glad with this one so far.

 

- Claim Martin Perez

 

- TRADE #10: Received Bo Bichette for Martin Perez. | Perez had almost perfect-gamed the Astros after my claim so he looked really good. I thought I pillaged this guy in getting Bo after one hot Perez start but Perez has been automatic since then and is now the #2 ranked player in the league with RP eligibility, just 3 points behind Nestor Cortes. I still consider this a win for me but the other guy is really happy with it.

 

- Claim Jake Odorizzi

 

- TRADE #11: Received Jose Ramirez for Manny Machado. | These guys were dead even in points at the time with Arenado so this was a tough one for me. I thought I got the best of the three in Ramirez back but this has been a straight L for me so far. Manny is now at 288 points to Ramirez's 243 and looks like a runaway favorite for NL MVP right now.

 

- TRADE #4B: Sent Jake Odorizzi to complete the Darvish/Jefferies deal.

 

- Claim Rich Hill

 

- TRADE #12: Received Travis d'Arnaud in exchange for Rich Hill and Zack Collins. | Everyone thought I lost this deal at the time, lol. I didn't really care because it was the precursor to a second trade:

 

- TRADE #13: Received Vladimir Guerrero Jr. in exchange for Matt Olson and Travis d'Arnaud. | Everyone thought I lost this deal as well. So far, I have. Vladdy has never had more points than Olson at any point this season and d'Arnaud is the #6 catcher.

 

- TRADE #14: Received Austin Hays for Jesus Sanchez. | Hays had a godly week after this (for another team) while Sanchez has been putrid.

 

- TRADE #15: Received Trea Turner and Julio Rodriguez in exchange for Austin Hays and Chris Taylor. | Hilarious deal where the other GM thought he fleeced me for like a week because of how hot Hays was. Turner was playing really bad up until that point but he's started to get going now.

 

- TRADE #16: Rececived Framber Valdez for Julio Rodriguez and Victor Arano. | I fleeced myself here because I needed a mid-tier pitcher to make my next trade.

 

- TRADE #17: Received Garrett Whitlock for Framber Valdez. | Whitlock was one of the top RP's at the time. He hasn't been huge for me yet but I'm still happy with the J-Rod/Arano exchange for him. I picked up Tommy Pham in free agency to make up for the bench OF spot I had opened up.

 

- Claim Tommy Pham

 

- Claim Tyler Mahle

 

- TRADE #18: Received Corbin Burnes for Paul Blackburn and Andrew Heaney. Received Kenley Jansen in exchange for Dillon Peters. Received Kyle Tucker and Gabriel Moreno in exchange for Tommy Pham, Tyler Mahle and Riley Greene. | Three-part deal where I sold high on Paul Blackburn (who's been great this season) for Corbin Burnes, lmao. The guy really liked the other two parts to this trade and was a big believer in Andrew Heaney, which helped him make the Black-Burnes part of it.

 

- TRADE #19: Received Juan Yepez in exchange for Spencer Torkelson. | Got bored of Tork. Wanted a hot bat.

 

- TRADE #20: Received Seiya Suzuki and Emmanuel Clase in exchange for Kyle Tucker and Aaron Loup. | I was pursuing Yordan Alvarez really heavily at this time and while I knew Tucker for Suzuki was a bad trade for me, the guy who owned Alvarez liked Suzuki slightly more so I took a gamble. It didn't pay off right away because Suzuki+ for Alvarez still gave him cold feet but I was able to eventually flip Suzuki for Stanton, who he really liked.

 

- Claim Taijuan Walker

 

- Claim Jean Segura (Drop Marcus Semien)

 

- TRADE #21: Received A.J. Minter for J.P. Feyereisen. | Feyer was the better pitcher so far but I liked Minter's peripherals more. The Alvarez owner also really liked Minter so I thought grabbing him could potentially give me more options for a deal.

 

- TRADE #22: Received Giancarlo Stanton for Seiya Suzuki. | Other guy really liked Seiya, lol.

 

- TRADE #23: Received Yordan Alvarez for Giancarlo Stanton as part of three-team deal. Facilitated the other half of the deal, which was Alvarez owner receiving Mike Clevinger and Eugenio Suarez in exchange for Shane Bieber. | The guy who owned Alvarez is a Statcast worshipper and was extremely concerned about Bieber's peripherals. He was trying badly to dump him for a few days so I asked him if I could get him a trade he liked, would he pull the trigger on Stanton/Alvarez. He said yes so I went around and shopped Bieber until I found him the Clevinger/Suarez package.

 

- TRADE #24: Received Michael King in exchange for Jordan Romano and Taijuan Walker. | Romano's Statcast page concerns me and I wanted King all season so this was easy for me.

[TwistedLogic]

Nobody's going to read the above post but just going through it all myself, I really don't think there were that many deals where I fleeced people. I got lucky on Soto that the guy who owned him was desperate for Harper. I traded Olson/d'Arnaud for Vladdy, which I don't think was a terrible deal for the other guy, and I bought really low on Trea Turner while he had been struggling and had brutal Statcast ratings. I turned my 4th round pick (Machado) into Ramirez, but that doesn't actually look like a good deal right now.

 

I think the biggest factor in me building the team I have is that I was ahead of the curve on claiming players in free agency. I turned my claims into a lot of really hot performers, who I was able to flip in 2-for-1, 3-for-2 type deals to upgrade my players each time. Like, the Corbin Burnes deal was almost all free agent claims I farmed throughout the first month of the season.

[Terminator]

I'd like to request that the mods change the name of this thread to TwistedLogic's Fantasy Baseball Advice thread and that we create a separate thread for everyone else. It's too hard to sift through his spam posts about his novice redraft leagues and now he's apparently chronicling all of his transactions in book format.

[Laika]

Nobody's going to read the above post but just going through it all myself, I really don't think there were that many deals where I fleeced people. I got lucky on Soto that the guy who owned him was desperate for Harper. I traded Olson/d'Arnaud for Vladdy, which I don't think was a terrible deal for the other guy, and I bought really low on Trea Turner while he had been struggling and had brutal Statcast ratings. I turned my 4th round pick (Machado) into Ramirez, but that doesn't actually look like a good deal right now.

 

I think the biggest factor in me building the team I have is that I was ahead of the curve on claiming players in free agency. I turned my claims into a lot of really hot performers, who I was able to flip in 2-for-1, 3-for-2 type deals to upgrade my players each time. Like, the Corbin Burnes deal was almost all free agent claims I farmed throughout the first month of the season.

 

There are a few trades in there that simply do not happen in competitive leagues, that's for sure

[TwistedLogic]

There are a few trades in there that simply do not happen in competitive leagues, that's for sure

 

Oh yeah I know haha. And this doesn't even mention any of the deals that other GMs in the league have done, there are several more brutal ones like that.

 

Some guy just traded Trevor Rogers for William Contreras last night because he "could use a backup catcher when Realmuto isn't playing." And no, he didn't think he was trading for Willson, he knew who he was getting lol.

[connorp]

Oh yeah I know haha. And this doesn't even mention any of the deals that other GMs in the league have done, there are several more brutal ones like that.

 

Some guy just traded Trevor Rogers for William Contreras last night because he "could use a backup catcher when Realmuto isn't playing." And no, he didn't think he was trading for Willson, he knew who he was getting lol.

 

Trea Turner #1 overall in most leagues for nothing

Bo for nothing

 

Burn that league to the ground man lol

Edited May 15, 2022 by connorp

[Laika]

- TRADE #18: Received Corbin Burnes for Paul Blackburn and Andrew Heaney. Received Kenley Jansen in exchange for Dillon Peters. Received Kyle Tucker and Gabriel Moreno in exchange for Tommy Pham, Tyler Mahle and Riley Greene.

 

Like wtf

 

I could play fantasy baseball with my mom and she would reject some of these trades

 

Burnes for nothing

Tucker for basically nothing

A closer for nothing

[Laika]

TL you need to just join BORED or something

[TwistedLogic]

TL you need to just join BORED or something

 

I'm in BORED, lol. I'm just not very good at category leagues. Points leagues dumb things down for me and it's easy for me to work with a single number. My learning-disability ass can't handle much more than that.

 

And it's even tougher in a league like BORED where I came in as a complete fantasy noob but I inherited a team I had no hand in building and pretty much everyone else in the league had more than a decade of experience.

 

I've been thinking hard about pulling out of BORED lately for that reason. I don't think it's fair to the other GMs that I've got a dud squad.

 

I wish we had a redraft league on here. All the dynasty leagues have teams that were meticulously built up over all these years. A redraft keeps things fresh and I'd enjoy that a lot more.