Ervin Santana want One year and the promise "Not QO for 2015"

[Angrioter]

Edited March 10, 2014 by Angrioter

[Angrioter]

Goodbye Ervin

[KingKat]

Goodbye Ervin

 

So he's signing with the Twins?

[Ehjays]

Id verbally say sure then give him a QO anyway, whats he gonna do?

[The Cats Ass]

So the signing team gives up a pick to sign him and then doesn't get one back when he leaves next year. He'll end up getting even less money because of this. And who's to say the team still doesn't offer him a QO anyway at the end of the year just because.

[KingKat]

So he's accepting three year from the Twins because the teams offereing one year can't promise him that he won't be QO'ed? Well f him then.

[Angrioter]

Verbal agreement. Jay Alou is mad

[KingKat]

Verbal agreement. Jay Alou is mad

 

Who is Jay Alou? His new agent?

[Ehjays]

Verbal agreement. Jay Alou is mad

 

What

[Ehjays]

Verbal agreement. Jay Alou is mad

 

Does this mean he has agreed to a deal?

[KingKat]

What

 

We're caught in the Angrioter vortex.

[Ehjays]

We're caught in the Angrioter vortex.

 

LOL.....Is he just gonna leave us hanging?

[Angrioter]

Who is Jay Alou? His new agent?

 

Jay Alou (Mateo Alou's son) is the Santana's new agent.

[KingKat]

Jay Alou (Mateo Alou's son) is the Santana's new agent.

 

O.K. so he's not signing yet just telling teams that if he doesn't get a no QO promise, he'll go with the Twins? Really starting to hate this guy.

[Ehjays]

Jay Alou (Mateo Alou's son) is the Santana's new agent.

 

you said verbal agreement and Jay alou is mad, So just to confirm, they have an agreement in place with a team?

[Ehjays]

O.K. so he's not signing yet just telling teams that if he doesn't get a no QO promise, he'll go with the Twins? Really starting to hate this guy.

 

I see.ok

 

F Santana

 

I\d give it to him like I said then give a QO anyway. Then when AAs fired the agents can't hold anything against the new GM

[gruber92]

O.K. so he's not signing yet just telling teams that if he doesn't get a no QO promise, he'll go with the Twins? Really starting to hate this guy.

 

Like I said in the other thread, f*** SANTANA.

[Angrioter]

you said verbal agreement and Jay alou is mad, So just to confirm, they have an agreement in place with a team?

 

lol

Translade

"It seems that Ervin Santana rejected 3 years offer by the Twins. He want 1 and covenant promise that will not make QO in 2015"

[gruber92]

Santana is a f***ing grease monkey. We don't need this s*** on our team.

[Angrioter]

Santana is a f***ing grease monkey. We don't need this s*** on our team.

 

Agree.

 

A one-year deal and draft pick for 2015 seemed like a good idea .....

[Ehjays]

lol

Translade

"It seems that Ervin Santana rejected 3 years offer by the Twins. He want 1 and covenant promise that will not make QO in 2015"

 

Thanks I needed that.

 

I know years ago the Blue Jays were a popular team for Domincans to like because of George Bell, Fernandez, Garcia, Lee but I guess the Dominacans don't think of the Jays as highly anymore, is that true or are they still popular there?

[Angrioter]

Thanks I needed that.

 

I know years ago the Blue Jays were a popular team for Domincans to like because of George Bell, Fernandez, Garcia, Lee but I guess the Dominacans don't think of the Jays as highly anymore, is that true or are they still popular there?

 

Those times are gone.

 

1-Yankees

2-Boston

3-Dodgers

4-Braves

5-Cards

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Just sign the guy. Who cares if we won't get anything back for the guy next year. We need him to compete THIS year.

[The Cats Ass]

Those times are gone.

 

1-Yankees

2-Boston

3-Dodgers

4-Braves

5-Cards

 

Why the Braves?

[saskjayfan]

I see.ok

 

F Santana

 

I\d give it to him like I said then give a QO anyway. Then when AAs fired the agents can't hold anything against the new GM

 

All Santana has to do avoid a QO is to sign April 1. However, a team signing him at that time gives up a pick and gets a pitcher who wouldn't be ready until 3 weeks into the season so teams may just pass....but then Santana could sign in june after the draft as no pick would be surrendered and he wouldn't be subject to a QO but he would miss out on half a year of salary.

 

If Santana signs in the AL east and puts a up a season where the team is willing to give a QO he'll be able to sign a long term deal.

[KingKat]

lol

Translade

"It seems that Ervin Santana rejected 3 years offer by the Twins. He want 1 and covenant promise that will not make QO in 2015"

 

He should have just accepted that damn Twins offer. Can we just give this money to Drew please and let the Orioles deal with this.

[Anemic0ffense]

Damn Mexicans

[Angrioter]

Why the Braves?

 

One of the most successful teams in the last two decades.

[Terminator]

Relying on Angrioter's translation here, since it could say "if you respond to this, you molest monkeys" and I wouldn't know any different, but ...

 

Any sort of arrangement not to QO as a condition of signing a contract is a direct violation of the CBA. If true, and if being put forward by Santana, his agent should be decertified and there should be punishment against Santana himself.

 

I thought I remember a player's contract expressly disallowing his team from offering him a QO before? I think maybe Orlando Cabrera?

[NorthOf49]

I thought I remember a player's contract expressly disallowing his team from offering him a QO before? I think maybe Orlando Cabrera?

I remember Carlos Beltran had it written into his Mets contract that they couldn't offer him arbitration. That's part of why the Beltran-Wheeler swap was so costly for San Francisco -- they didn't get a pick when Beltran left.