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  1. 1. Bluejays 2014: Over or Under 77.5 Wins

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bnicholsonsmith

Over/under for #BlueJays 2014 win total set at 77.5 per Atlantis sportsbook (lowest over/under in AL East).

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bnicholsonsmith

Over/under for #BlueJays 2014 win total set at 77.5 per Atlantis sportsbook (lowest over/under in AL East).

 

That makes me want to break my rules about betting lol.

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Someone did not do his job ............ or know something we do not!

 

Dickey died of old age?

Was Buehrle bitten by a pit bull?

Morrow will be Morrow?

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This was actually higher than I expected. I was expecting 74-76 based on the World Series odds. I will take the over but only $1K and not $5K like I was planning at 75.
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they were 74 wins last year and for the most part the team was completely dreadful. They should be able to make up 4 wins just by not running out Ramon Ortiz and Chien-Ming Wang out 5/6 times each
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they were 74 wins last year and for the most part the team was completely dreadful. They should be able to make up 4 wins just by not running out Ramon Ortiz and Chien-Ming Wang out 5/6 times each

 

Those 2 guys only cost the team a win by advanced metrics. Even by simple metrics (wins) they were 2-4... so say we send better guys out for those starts, thats 3-3. It's a win.

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Privacy is a fundamental right, but ....................... Who the hell voted Under?

 

EJCF?

 

lol I voted over, but it won't be by much unless they make some major moves in the next few days.

 

There are only so many wins to go around in this division.

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Privacy is a fundamental right, but ....................... Who the hell voted Under?

 

EJCF?

 

I voted under. Mainly to be contrary. But this team is a low 80s team. Depending how you model it anything between 78 and 84 is a reasonable projection.

 

Old, injury prone team coming off a 74 win season. Bautista is 33, EE 31, Reyes 31. Beuhrle 35?, Dickey 39 and relies on speed more than the old knuckleballers.

 

The catcher has averaged 60 games over the last 4 years. The other Catcher is Josh Thole.

 

I project Ryan Goins the second basemen to have a .305 on base percentage and get trashed as being a delusional optimist.

 

Those who believe in Stroman get trashed because no pitcher shorter then him has ever won a game (or something like that). Morrow will never be healthy. Romero is still there around and might pitch some games (since Ortiz won't).

 

What else?? The left fielder is recovering from steroid withdrawal and a tumour. He might be OK but nobody knows what to expect.

 

78 is reasonable if you believe the Goins haters, the Morrow haters, the Stroman haters, the Thole haters, the people who think Lawrie will always crash into things.

 

And yes I hope they do way better. I will be the happiest person if they win 95.

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I voted under. Mainly to be contrary. But this team is a low 80s team. Depending how you model it anything between 78 and 84 is a reasonable projection.

 

Old, injury prone team coming off a 74 win season. Bautista is 33, EE 31, Reyes 31. Beuhrle 35?, Dickey 39 and relies on speed more than the old knuckleballers.

 

The catcher has averaged 60 games over the last 4 years. The other Catcher is Josh Thole.

 

I project Ryan Goins the second basemen to have a .305 on base percentage and get trashed as being a delusional optimist.

 

Those who believe in Stroman get trashed because no pitcher shorter then him has ever won a game (or something like that). Morrow will never be healthy. Romero is still there around and might pitch some games (since Ortiz won't).

 

What else?? The left fielder is recovering from steroid withdrawal and a tumour. He might be OK but nobody knows what to expect.

 

78 is reasonable if you believe the Goins haters, the Morrow haters, the Stroman haters, the Thole haters, the people who think Lawrie will always crash into things.

 

And yes I hope they do way better. I will be the happiest person if they win 95.

 

This is why it's so fun to be a Raptors fan right now. A YOUNG, cheap core that could stick together for 5-7 years.

 

Our core is so old. UGH

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Somewhere in the 80s I expect, with upside if we sign Jimenez/Santana, or one of the young starters(Stroman, Hutchison, Drabek, Nolin) emerges. It's difficult to call. Remember, we still have a decent offense and a strong bullpen.

 

Some improvement in the defense would go a long way, whether it's Goins, us signing Drew(unlikely), or trading for a 2B, preferably one with good D, and having a healthy Cabrera.

 

At the moment, we're probably at least ahead of Baltimore, who have managed to make their team worse in the offseason by trading Johnson to Oakland, not signing Balfour, and leaving their bullpen heavily exposed to serious regression. And you can't expect Davis to repeat his 2013.

 

Add another pitcher and I'd pick us ahead of the Yankees, who I do not expect to contend, due to a club that will likely disappoint with their new acquisitions, either through injury or due to age-related regression.

 

Unless something happens, Boston and Tampa are still the teams to beat in the AL East.

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And yet the US media STILL thinks we're shopping Lowry. Rumor had it the Knicks wanted him.. too bad the Knicks have no assets and are crashing towards missing the playoffs. Didn't anyone see the Kings/Knicks game last night?
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I love over under bets and have had a lot of success with them over the years (including getting the Jays correct the last three years). Zero chance I'd be touching the Jays here
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Here is the full lines. Ones that stand out for me are Washington (under), Houston (over), Baltimore (under), Dodgers (under), Cubs (over), Cleveland (over).

 

Here’s the full list of 2014 MLB season win totals from the Atlantis Resort Spa Sportsbook in Reno, Nevada:

 

Arizona Diamondbacks - 81 (over -110/under -110)

Atlanta Braves - 86.5 (over -110/under -110)

Baltimore Orioles - 80.5 (over -110/under -110)

Boston Red Sox - 87.5 (over -110/under -110)

Chicago Cubs - 65.5 (over -110/under -110)

Chicago White Sox - 76.5 (over -105/under -115)

Cincinnati Reds - 87.5 (over -105/under -115)

Cleveland Indians - 82.5 (over -105/under -115)

Colorado Rockies - 76.5 (over -110/under -110)

Detroit Tigers - 91.5 (over -110/under -110)

Houston Astros - 57.5 (over -115/under -105)

Kansas City Royals - 85.5 (over -110/under -110)

Los Angeles Angels - 84.5 (over -110/under -110)

Los Angeles Dodgers - 92.5 (over -110/under -110)

Miami Marlins - 66.5 (over -110/under -110)

Milwaukee Brewers - 78.5 (over -105/under -115)

Minnesota Twins - 65.5 (over -105/under -115)

New York Mets - 71.5 (over -110/under -120)

New York Yankees - 83.5 (over -110/under -110)

Oakland Athletics - 86.5 (over -115/under -105)

Philadelphia Phillies - 78 (over -110/under -110)

Pittsburgh Pirates - 86.5 (over -105/under -110)

San Diego Padres - 76.5 (over -110/under -110)

San Francisco Giants - 86.5 (over -110/under -110)

Seattle Mariners - 80 (over -110/under -110)

St. Louis Cardinals - 90.5 (over -110/under -110)

Tampa Bay Rays - 88.5 (over -110/under -110)

Texas Rangers - 86.5 (over -110/under -110)

Toronto Blue Jays - 77.5 (over -115/under -105)

Washington Nationals - 90.5 (over -110/under -110)

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I went to my 2 sportsbooks that i use and they don't offer over/under win totals for baseball. (sports interaction and party bets)

 

I would have bet the s*** out of the over on the Jays if they did. They had the Jays to win the world series at 19.00 odds. f***ing no thank you.

 

Edit: I love how we can f***ing swear on this board.

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Here is the full lines. Ones that stand out for me are Washington (under), Houston (over), Baltimore (under), Dodgers (under), Cubs (over), Cleveland (over).

 

Here’s the full list of 2014 MLB season win totals from the Atlantis Resort Spa Sportsbook in Reno, Nevada:

 

Arizona Diamondbacks - 81 (over -110/under -110)

Atlanta Braves - 86.5 (over -110/under -110)

Baltimore Orioles - 80.5 (over -110/under -110)

Boston Red Sox - 87.5 (over -110/under -110)

Chicago Cubs - 65.5 (over -110/under -110)

Chicago White Sox - 76.5 (over -105/under -115)

Cincinnati Reds - 87.5 (over -105/under -115)

Cleveland Indians - 82.5 (over -105/under -115)

Colorado Rockies - 76.5 (over -110/under -110)

Detroit Tigers - 91.5 (over -110/under -110)

Houston Astros - 57.5 (over -115/under -105)

Kansas City Royals - 85.5 (over -110/under -110)

Los Angeles Angels - 84.5 (over -110/under -110)

Los Angeles Dodgers - 92.5 (over -110/under -110)

Miami Marlins - 66.5 (over -110/under -110)

Milwaukee Brewers - 78.5 (over -105/under -115)

Minnesota Twins - 65.5 (over -105/under -115)

New York Mets - 71.5 (over -110/under -120)

New York Yankees - 83.5 (over -110/under -110)

Oakland Athletics - 86.5 (over -115/under -105)

Philadelphia Phillies - 78 (over -110/under -110)

Pittsburgh Pirates - 86.5 (over -105/under -110)

San Diego Padres - 76.5 (over -110/under -110)

San Francisco Giants - 86.5 (over -110/under -110)

Seattle Mariners - 80 (over -110/under -110)

St. Louis Cardinals - 90.5 (over -110/under -110)

Tampa Bay Rays - 88.5 (over -110/under -110)

Texas Rangers - 86.5 (over -110/under -110)

Toronto Blue Jays - 77.5 (over -115/under -105)

Washington Nationals - 90.5 (over -110/under -110)

 

 

 

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I went to my 2 sportsbooks that i use and they don't offer over/under win totals for baseball. (sports interaction and party bets).

 

SI will be up in March. They no longer allow parlays on futures though, used to be their biggest appeal to me.

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I really have no idea how this stuff works, but looking at some of these it seems it wouldn't be that hard to do well. How do you make bets on these things? Online?
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bnicholsonsmith

Over/under for #BlueJays 2014 win total set at 77.5 per Atlantis sportsbook (lowest over/under in AL East).

 

They're better than that. How much better that remains to be seen. Still based on what happened last year it's not a surprise their O/U is so low.

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I really have no idea how this stuff works, but looking at some of these it seems it wouldn't be that hard to do well. How do you make bets on these things? Online?

 

Maybe on the over/under part.

 

I always tell my friends if gambling was easy there would be no such thing as gambling. Just don't play proline....

 

Bet 365, Sports Interaction, Party Bets...lot's of options to play. Just need a charge/credit card.

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This is why it's so fun to be a Raptors fan right now. A YOUNG, cheap core that could stick together for 5-7 years.

 

Our core is so old. UGH

 

Yep. Blue Jays management has been a disaster for decades. The John Gibbons hiring was bizarre and then deciding as a team to stand pat this off-season was an inexcusable mistake. I cannot believe this team has become the bottom feeder of the AL East. After years and years of whining and complaining about the Yankess and Red Sox and their spending, organizations like Tampa and Baltimore kept quiet and have built extremely solid teams with great young cores. What do we have? Not much. Last season reminded me of the year Riccardi broke the bank for guys like Troy Glaus, BJ Ryan, Burnett and Overbay and the team did nothing standings wise but were the off-season champions with the media. Last year, pretty much the same scenario, just different names.

 

If we finish .500 it will be a miracle. I honestly hope we bomb so the team can clean house and we do it the right way, like the Raptors. Or in a baseball sense, like the Rays, like the Orioles.

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If we finish .500 it will be a miracle. I honestly hope we bomb so the team can clean house

 

81 wins for this team certainly won't be a "miracle". 80-85 is an average projection.

 

Enjoy cheering for us to suck?

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Actually, the 2006 team would've made the playoffs had the Yankees not still been in their prime(NY went 97-65, and still lost to the Tigers in the ALDS) and we had had more depth in pitching in the minors (darn Ty Taubenheim, Francisco Rosario, Josh Towers) and pitchers like Shaun Marcum and Dustin McGowan been more ready by that time.

 

The 2006 team was also plagued by JPR giving 12 starts to Josh Towers.. even a .500 pitcher would've gotten us to the postseason. One other question.. how in the heck were we deceived with Gustavo Chacin? I mean, his peripherals were awful! AJ Burnett missed a chunk of time as well, so that didn't help. Probably the same reason Yanks fans wondered about Chien-Ming Wang. How'd Wang turn into such an awful pitcher?

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I guess if you have to play it as red or black, you have to go with the over as that's the likely scenario..

 

however, if the follow up question was "is it big wager worthy", I would choose "no"

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