The Yankees will be easy to hate

[G-Snarls]

Yeah they're the Yankees and usually easy to hate but now...

 

They dissed Russell Martin and let him walk to save money then signed McCann (a notorious SOB) for 3X the money Martin got

 

Signed Tanaka,putting him in the AL East. This is likely a 6 win swing vs Blue Jays compared to us signing him (though I recocnize that was not happening)

 

Possibly colluded with MLB to make sure they didn't have to pay ARod this year and try repeatedly to get out of the contract that THEY signed willingly

 

Spend money like crazy when they don't make the playoffs. I just heard this on ESPN radio. The Yankees have missed the post season twice in the last 6 years, 2008 and 2013. In the two off seasons after those two years they have spent 912 million dollars on free agents. An obscene amount of money that maybe two teams in MLB could spend. Yuck.

 

Have a s***** farm system but stay afloat by buying most of the top free agents.

 

Derek Jester

 

No mo Mo to at least root for

 

Any more?

Edited January 23, 2014 by G-Snarls

[G-Snarls]

It's sickening how they can just throw money around like that, but if the Jays were doing that I wouldn't complain lol.

 

Hahaha. I know what you mean.

[saskjayfan]

Yeah they're the Yankees and usually easy to hate but now...

 

They dissed Russell Martin and let him walk to save money then signed McCann (a notorious SOB) for 3X the money Martin got

 

Signed Tanaka,putting him in the AL East. This is likely a 6 win swing vs Blue Jays compared to us signing him (though I recocnize that was not happening)

 

Possibly colluded with MLB to make sure they didn't have to pay ARod this year and try repeatedly to get out of the contract that THEY signed willingly

 

Spend money like crazy when they don't make the playoffs. I just heard this on ESPN radio. The Yankees have missed the post season twice in the last 6 years, 2008 and 2013. In the two off seasons after those two years they have spent 912 million dollars on free agents. An obscene amount of money that maybe two teams in MLB could spend. Yuck.

 

Have a s***** farm system but stay afloat by buying most of the top free agents.

 

Derek Jester

 

No mo Mo to at least root for

 

Any more?

 

 

The Yankees are over rated.....will be fun to hear all the crying if they miss the playoffs and then get Arod's salary back on the books for next year..

[Smokey]

I used to hate the Yankees and their massive payroll when I was younger, but since then I've learned to respect them and their passion for winning. They're making money and choosing to put it back into the team instead of their own pockets and usually end up signing the best options available. After all, they've won 14 division titles since the last time we've sniffed the playoffs and we can only hope and dream about the day that the Blue Jays would find losing as unacceptable. Edited January 23, 2014 by Smokey

[NorthOf49]

To be honest, hating on the Yankees for spending is getting old and I've gotten bored of doing it. Jays fans have been doing it for more than a decade, pointing to it as the big excuse for their team's poor results. It's time the pointing takes a 180° turn.

 

In the last two years, every other team in the AL East has made the playoffs. With a similar payroll to the Blue Jays' current level, the Red Sox have won three World Series in 11 years and the Rays are a perennial powerhouse. The Yankees payroll is not crippling to the rest of the division. Rather, the Blue Jays incompetence is crippling to themselves.

[JugglingPitches]

It may be easy to hate the Yankees, but the real problem is with MLB. Every other major sport has a hard salary cap to make sure it's a level playing field and that small market teams can compete. The Yankees are simply taking advantage of a flawed system and I would do the same thing if I were in their shoes.

[KingKat]

It may be easy to hate the Yankees, but the real problem is with MLB. Every other major sport has a hard salary cap to make sure it's a level playing field and that small market teams can compete. The Yankees are simply taking advantage of a flawed system and I would do the same thing if I were in their shoes.

 

Although I don't carre that much about a salary cap, I agree with you that any anger towards the Yankees is misdirected. They have the most money, they would be fools not to leverage that advantage. Cahsman is doing exactly what he should be doing with the means at his disposal.

[Angrioter]

some dire words from J.P. Ricciardi at the end of a miserable 2009 season suddenly seem apt for the moment.

 

"Let me make this clear: It doesn’t matter if J.P. Ricciardi is the GM, or Joe Blow is the GM," he told me that September in what turned out to be the epitaph interview of his tenure as Toronto Blue Jays general manager. "Two years from now, five years from now, seven years from now, the reality that we face in Toronto is the division is not going to change. The Red Sox and Yankees are not going away. If the Yankees want to, they can take their payroll to $300-million.

 

"The biggest thing that people forget is that when Toronto won the World Series, they had the highest payroll in baseball. There’s a direct equivalent to that. If we’re going to play in the big man’s division, and we’re not going to spend that money, it’s going to be really hard for us to compete with those teams."

[jaysfan2014]

Unlike 2008 though, there are no prime homegrown players on the Yankees to help save this team this time. Jeter's 40, Cano is in Seattle, Damon and Matsui are retired, Tex has chronic wrist issues, and of course A-Rod is suspended and would've been awful regardless. And McCann is nowhere close to 2009 Posada, even with the power, which is offset by a low average and injury concerns. And Nick Swisher isn't coming to help them like in 2008.

 

Trying to compare the 2009 World Champions with the 2014 team isn't worth it. Outside of Tanaka, the Yanks are still a declining ballclub that is in danger of repeating the same mistakes of the 1981-1992 period (although 1985 was a close call, thanks to the Jays winning the division that year.) Until they commit to rebuilding their farm system, this cycle of buying free agents for diminishing returns will continue.

[G-Snarls]

It may be easy to hate the Yankees, but the real problem is with MLB. Every other major sport has a hard salary cap to make sure it's a level playing field and that small market teams can compete. The Yankees are simply taking advantage of a flawed system and I would do the same thing if I were in their shoes.

 

This is totally true

 

But I still want to see a smart disadvantaged team like Oakland win a world series. But the way MLB is set up makes the odds very long for them.

[KingKat]

Unlike 2008 though, there are no prime homegrown players on the Yankees to help save this team this time. Jeter's 40, Cano is in Seattle, Damon and Matsui are retired, Tex has chronic wrist issues, and of course A-Rod is suspended and would've been awful regardless. And McCann is nowhere close to 2009 Posada, even with the power, which is offset by a low average and injury concerns. And Nick Swisher isn't coming to help them like in 2008.

 

Trying to compare the 2009 World Champions with the 2014 team isn't worth it. Outside of Tanaka, the Yanks are still a declining ballclub that is in danger of repeating the same mistakes of the 1981-1992 period (although 1985 was a close call, thanks to the Jays winning the division that year.) Until they commit to rebuilding their farm system, this cycle of buying free agents for diminishing returns will continue.

 

If Sabbathia bounces back and Pineda is healthy that rotation will be killer:

 

Kuroda

Sabbathia

Tanaka

Nova

Pineda

 

The lineup is still unbalanced but they definitely added wins there as well. Me thinks they'll be really good.

[SAAviour]

I agree, yanks can't possibly lose this year. They won the off season! I'm personally going to start cheering for them.

[KingKat]

I agree, yanks can't possibly lose this year. They won the off season! I'm personally going to start cheering for them.

 

Could you be any dumber?

[z3r0s]

some dire words from J.P. Ricciardi at the end of a miserable 2009 season suddenly seem apt for the moment.

 

"Let me make this clear: It doesn’t matter if J.P. Ricciardi is the GM, or Joe Blow is the GM," he told me that September in what turned out to be the epitaph interview of his tenure as Toronto Blue Jays general manager. "Two years from now, five years from now, seven years from now, the reality that we face in Toronto is the division is not going to change. The Red Sox and Yankees are not going away. If the Yankees want to, they can take their payroll to $300-million.

 

"The biggest thing that people forget is that when Toronto won the World Series, they had the highest payroll in baseball. There’s a direct equivalent to that. If we’re going to play in the big man’s division, and we’re not going to spend that money, it’s going to be really hard for us to compete with those teams."

 

Toronto can compete in the 'big boy division' with a $130M - $150M payroll easily, but you have to do it in the right way. The right way is to offset home grown talent with free agents and there is no other way. Even the Yankees did it for years with Jeter, Posada, Mo, and Cano. They have been crappier year after year as those guys leave / retire.

 

We had some nice 'home grown' (sort of) pieces last year with Jose, Edwin, and Lawrie, but then traded what would have been our base of home grown talent for basically FA contracts. Its set us back YEARS.

 

Feels bad man.

[G-Snarls]

I'll admit it would be fun cheering for a team with a "win at any cost" attitude, though it might get boring after a while. LOL

[Angrioter]

Toronto can compete in the 'big boy division' with a $130M - $150M payroll easily, but you have to do it in the right way. The right way is to offset home grown talent with free agents and there is no other way. Even the Yankees did it for years with Jeter, Posada, Mo, and Cano. They have been crappier year after year as those guys leave / retire.

 

We had some nice 'home grown' (sort of) pieces last year with Jose, Edwin, and Lawrie, but then traded what would have been our base of home grown talent for basically FA contracts. Its set us back YEARS.

 

Feels bad man.

 

Trading Buehrle$$ + Rasmus for Eaton + Skaggs + Davidson

Trading Santos/Janssen + Izturis$ for Porcello/Fister

 

 

"I hate you because you know the business better than me. Your success makes me hate you"

[SAAviour]

Could you be any dumber?

 

I'm just f***ing around.

[Dylan]

I still think Rogers will increase their spending significantly, once they complete their takeover of the NHL.

 

Unlike the leafs (who make profit no matter how bad they are), making a competitive jays team will drastically increase their own profits.

[kgm1]

You can respect the Yankees and still HATE them . They one huge flaw they have in the last many years is the inability to develop talent . They won many of those WS,s with talent they developed .

[Dylan]

Yankees are a think current season and worry about next year when it comes team... that's the benefits to having an insane amount of money to use.

[JFD]

I'm just waiting for AA to play the "we can't compete with the big payroll teams" card.

[FireAlexAnthopoulos]

Nobody's easier to hate than our inept front office and ownership for handing us a 20+ year s*** sandwich. As boring as it is to see them buy titles, at least the Yankees try to win and don't accept losing!

[Atothe]

I no longer hate the yanks, more of show me something new attitude with them. I still despise red sox fans to the very end

[John_Havok]

Truth bombs.

 

The Jays need to decide what they are going to be about. Either be a draft/development system like St Louis - where you still have the ability to retain key pieces if you choose, or;

 

Become big spenders and actually make yourselves players in the free agent game

 

Don't start one way, then go half-assed into another and stand pat at the first sign of adversity