Dylan Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 In Grade 11 we had to memorize a Romeo & Juliet soliloquy and present it to the class in character. There really is no need to devote half the semester on Shakespeare every year. I do not miss those times.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Good thing I do not live in Ontario. Where I live, English class is easy as s***. You have 2 options to choose from, transactional focus which is writing, public speaking, poetry, grammar or literary focus where you read books every class for the whole semester. No idea how that varies from Ontario but I just passed grade 11 ELA (literary) a few months ago and I haven't heard anything about memorizing Shakespeare or presenting in character in front of the class, from either course! We just have the one, a mix between those two. It's basically your typical "the wall being blue represents the author's underlying message" ********. But if you have a good teacher it's good. We've had to do quite a bit of Ye Olde English early though.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 We'd study 3-5 books/plays throughout the year, and one would always be Shakespeare. Each unit would involve writing book reports on the chapters, talking about the themes in class and then writing tests about the symbolism, plot elements and character development and such. This was grade 11? What? This was literally my grade 7, 8, and 9 years.
Dylan Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 We'd study 3-5 books/plays throughout the year, and one would always be Shakespeare. Each unit would involve writing book reports on the chapters/parts, talking about the themes in class and then writing tests about the symbolism, plot elements and character development and such. I hated every minute of it. Those damn 2 clause thesis essays on symbolism. Stupid things would be over 25 pages long. If I had to pick one, Hamlet was my favourite.
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 This was grade 11? What? This was literally my grade 7, 8, and 9 years. It was every grade from 6-12, honestly. The books just got more and more confusing as the grade advanced. By Grade 12 the plot would have no meaning whatsoever; it'd all be about symbolism and imagery. We read the strangest books.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 It was every grade from 6-12, honestly. The books just got more and more confusing as the grade advanced. By Grade 12 the plot would have no meaning whatsoever; it'd all be about symbolism and imagery. We read the strangest books. The books are getting easier somehow lol. We read The Physicist and Cat's Cradle this year. Oh yeah, that is pretty similiar to what I had to do. Had to read Animal Farm, King Lear, To kill a mockingbird among other boring books in class, every day for an hour before lunch lol. Only had to do book reports on books of our choice, 2 throughout the semester. Plot/theme was a huge part of the course. Animal Farm was an option in grade 8 (i went with the Hunger Games for the free mark) and I read To Kill a Mockingbird this year but it's not curriculum work until 11. We have to do a report on everything though. And plot/theme IS the course for us lol.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Grade 7 the whole year was spent on grammar (1 month at a time on each of nouns, verbs, adjectives etc). Have no memory of grade 8 english or grade 9 School is fun! King parties hard
Dylan Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Oh yeah, that is pretty similiar to what I had to do. Had to read Animal Farm, King Lear, To kill a mockingbird among other boring books in class, every day for an hour before lunch lol. Only had to do book reports on books of our choice, 2 throughout the semester. Plot/theme was a huge part of the course. fahrenheit 451, 1984, catcher in the rye.. disliked all of them. All my favourites were elementary school reads like holes, outsiders and mice of men lol
Dylan Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Animal Farm was an option in grade 8 (i went with the Hunger Games for the free mark) and I read To Kill a Mockingbird this year but it's not curriculum work until 11. We have to do a report on everything though. And plot/theme IS the course for us lol. Grade 11? We had to read mockingbrid in grade 9, and do like 3 essays on it.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Grade 11? We had to read mockingbrid in grade 9, and do like 3 essays on it. It'll probably be more racism-focused, so they probably want to wait until we're more "mature." Everyone in my class read it this year for a reading program though. Good book.
Dylan Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Grade 7 the whole year was spent on grammar (1 month at a time on each of nouns, verbs, adjectives etc). Have no memory of grade 8 english or grade 9 School is fun! Grammar ended in like grade 6 lol.. and it shows
Glock Verified Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 High school english class was hard, especially considering over half of my class could barely speak English.
Dylan Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 I liked 1984! I read Fahrenheit 451 in the summer a few years ago, it was okay. We did non-Shakespeare plays too now that I think of it, like The Glass Menagerie. That was awful lol. The Crucible is good though. It's not that the actual books were bad, but by the end of the semester I was so sick of talking about symbolism and writing reports that it made me hate the books.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Grade 10 English my teacher was into discussion classes, one day he wanted to discuss with the class about dress code. I raised my hand and told him I hate dress code because I like looking at girls Christian school........................................................he wasn't too happy about that lol Would've killed to see that lol. We've done so many terrible plays this year. Ugh.
jays4life19 Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 High school english class was hard, especially considering over half of my class could barely speak English. Ah, they put you in the special education class, eh?
Glock Verified Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Ah, they put you in the special education class, eh? My old school is 85% Asian
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Which ones? Studying plays can be okay since you can have classes where everyone just gets a part and you read it out loud. The Physicist was the big one. Terrible play. And also Everyman. Which was even worse.
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 This was grade 11? What? This was literally my grade 7, 8, and 9 years. Bro 7-12 is basically the same when it comes to structure lol. Just replace fairy tale writing with essay writing/analysis
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 fahrenheit 451, 1984, catcher in the rye.. disliked all of them. All my favourites were elementary school reads like holes, outsiders and mice of men lol Easily the only book I've ever enjoyed in school. Hell it's my favorite book
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 I've never even heard of those. They must be awful lol Have you done 'Streetcar'? We start reading that on Tuesday
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 In the chat sidebar on the vipbox stream http://i.imgur.com/LeyjKlx.png lol Is that North?
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 In the chat sidebar on the vipbox stream http://i.imgur.com/LeyjKlx.png lol vip chats are the best. It's filled with clueless fanboys for both Football (soccer) and Baseball. I always have to open my mouth, get pissed, and closed the chat box lol
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Is that North? http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb6vt6fB3j1rteqhqo1_500.gif
NorthOf49 Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Have you done 'Streetcar'? We start reading that on Tuesday No, but I've done one of Tennessee Williams' other plays. Don't your exams start soon though?
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 No, but I've done one of Tennessee Williams' other plays. Don't your exams start soon though? Mine have already started, at least the in class components (like listening comprehension for french, for example). First time doing exams lol. They're not hard though
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 No, but I've done one of Tennessee Williams' other plays. Don't your exams start soon though? In June: Two exams on the 17th One exam on the 19th One exam on the 23rd
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Have you done 'Streetcar'? We start reading that on Tuesday Do students still even bother reading the books anymore? I got a B for a Greek Mythology class without reading a single book. All the themes and key concepts are out there. To be honest if you just read the books alone you'll probably miss a lot of key stuff
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Do students still even bother reading the books anymore? I got a B for a Greek Mythology class without reading a single book. All the themes and key concepts are out there. To be honest if you just read the books alone you'll probably miss a lot of key stuff Only in plays like Shakespeare's plays that we read in class. I use Sparknotes for everything else. I got an 80 on an essay on a Alias Grace without touching the book (maybe read like 30 pages). It had 0 info out there though so that sucked ass
fatcowxlive Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 That's probably why they can't write. The school curriculum needs to start adapting with this generation of students. I find myself reading a lot of online articles than touching a book. Books are just boring to me
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