Around Baseball 2014

[KingKat]

Re the bolded ... Why? I don't think the Jays are at the point where they need to look to 2015, either ... but they're close.

 

He's correct in that they won't be "true sellers" in the sense that they would be selling off vets to rebuild a farm to compete in the future. They have MLB talent. They have young current talent and near-ready talent. They have prospective FAs they can look to retain.

 

Next year:

C: Lavarnway, Vazquez, Swihart

1B: Napoli, Shaw

2B: Pedroia, Coyle

SS: Bogaerts, Herrera, Marrero

3B: Middlebrooks, Cecchini, Almanzar

RF: Victorino

CF: Betts, JBJ

LF: Holt, Nava, Carp

DH: Ortiz

 

SP: Lackey*, Buchholz, De La Rosa, Workman, Doubront, Webster, Ranaudo, Barnes, Owens

RP: Mujica, Breslow*, Tazawa

 

They lose Lester, Peavy, Drew, Pierzynski, Ross, Gomes, Uehara, Miller and Badenhop

 

Now, putting league minimum where there are blanks (like the relief corps), the 25-man roster out of that bunch is at an AAV of 87.8M. This year, with Drew, they're at about $157M AAV. That leaves about 70M to match this year's payroll. If they keep Lackey, they'll probably rework his deal (he won't work for the 500K he's due), so you might clip another 13-15M off the "available" space.

 

Really, the big blows are only Lester and the relief corps. And there is still a good chance Lester comes back. You rework Lackey and bring back Lester, and you have a likely improved rote (with the new guys) ... and you still have 45M to go out and get a big OF bat and supplement the bullpen, even without raising payroll. With young talent developing and waiting in the wings.

 

Assuming they play their cards right, it very likely could be another extreme swing back in the other direction, next year.

 

Great org. Great system. Well positioned for the future. What happens this season really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things especially since they won the World Series last year. Nobody should complain about Cherrington's luck evening out a bit after that but M*******s gonna M*******.

[HERPDERP]

AJ Pierzynski designated

[shortstop]

The Orioles post All-Star stretch is pretty brutal; a ten game road trip against Oakland, the Angels, and Seattle, followed by home games against the Angels and M's, before what hopefully is an important series in Toronto.

 

The Jays have to hold their heads above water by the break. Two games back or less.

 

 

Mariners v. O's at Camden August 3rd

O's v. Nats August 4 (make up game since both teams have that day off, time to be determined)

O's v. Blue Jays August 5

 

 

after the All-Star break, b/w July 18-August 31st, the O's have 3 days off vs. the Jays who have 5 days off...

[shortstop]

Tanaka getting an MRI on his right arm

 

lol pitchers

 

geez...

 

so the yanks will plunder to 15 games below .500 if he's out?!

[HERPDERP]

yankees are done

[bowld]

If Tanaka is out, so are the Yanks

[HERPDERP]

I wonder if this seals the deal that Tanaka won't win the RoY

Springer could end up with it

[Abomination]

I wonder if this seals the deal that Tanaka won't win the RoY

Springer could end up with it

 

I think Abreu takes it hands down if Tanaka is out.

[KingKat]

I think he's been a bit of a clubhouse issue, as well.

 

Maybe we'll get a brief glimpse into the anecdotal world of "team chemistry" if there's a rapid turnaround in Beantown.

 

- He's well know to be abbrasive and has had a difficulty fitting in certain clubhouse, most infamously, San Francisco.

- He's a terrible framer.

- He's stopped hitting.

 

There's literally no reason to have this guy on your club.

[Deadpool]

Yeah, but there was all that talk about him being misunderstood, and liked by most teammates, while hated by the opposition, before the season began. For whatever reason, related to his general aholeness or a particular issue with the Boston crew, he seemed to not fit in, and was taking heat about it fairly early on. They finally had enough.

 

If the m*******s in Boston think you're an *******, you're an *******'s *******.

[HERPDERP]

I think Abreu takes it hands down if Tanaka is out.

 

how the fk did I forget about him

[jaysblue]

how the fk did I forget about him

 

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[Deadpool]

Well, at least those m*******s are educated enough to know that an ******* doesn't have an *******.

 

Things I've learned on this board today. You can be somewhere without ever being there. Not proving something means it doesn't exist. Not liking Canada means you're a racist. *******s have *******s. The Canadian education system has failed.

 

Ahh, I see the issue here, you think that when I say "you're an *******" to someone, that I'm confusing them with a part of the human anatomy when in fact I am using the colloquialism which means that they are an unpleasant, disagreeable fellow. When I say "you're an *******'s *******" I mean "an unpleasant, disagreeable fellow finds you unpleasant and disagreeable, which means you are exceptionally unpleasant and disagreeable."

 

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[G-Snarls]

So...

 

Reyes move to DH??

[Deadpool]

This sounds racist.

 

Well, I am against the race of *******s.

 

Edit:

 

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[HERPDERP]

Man Yankees are injured.

 

In addition to Tanaka, Gardner and Beltran day to day.

[KingKat]

 

No Chris Sale

 

Farrell couldn't snub his own guy again. That's more important than the game itself.

[BlueJayWay]

White Sox pen blows games to everyone to but the Jays...a 4-0 lead two outs in the eighth becomes a 5-4 Boston walk off in the ninth.

[intentional wok]

White Sox pen blows games to everyone to but the Jays...a 4-0 lead two outs in the eighth becomes a 5-4 Boston walk off in the ninth.

 

How the f***...

 

To be fair, two of those games were on a silver platter for us in the ninth.

[jaysfan2014]

Here's why I don't think the Rays are legit... their bullpen is really taxed from earlier in the season (301.1IP in 91 games.)

 

That said, their bullpen blew a lead tonight vs. KC, as Joel Peralta and Kirby Yates combined to blow a 4-2 lead to lose 5-4 on a Sal Perez HR.

Like the Jays, the Rays aren't scoring with RISP either (1 for 9, 11 LOB). They drew 7 walks with their 8 hits (half by Kevin Kiermaier) and STILL lost.

[jaysfan2014]

Yanks/Indians are in the 12th. Indians have the advantage though, as the Yanks pen is down to Jim Miller and Chase Whitley(likely in an emergency only.. he's expected to start Sunday.)

[jaysfan2014]

At the rate the Yankees/Indians game is going, LeBron might sign with the Heat or Cavs before this game ends.

 

Oh, and Seattle is getting blown out by the Twins. Remember, we're chasing Seattle as well, who is more catchable than the Angels, as even with their pitching, it is questionable whether their hitting and some of their young arms (Elias, Walker) and Chris Young will hold up in the 2nd half.

[jaysfan2014]

Jacoby Ellsbury finally breaks the tie in the 14th..

[jaysfan2014]

Prior to the Jays-Angels series, the M's were legit and the Angels would have trouble competing with them (and the A's). 3 games later, the M's are inferior. I, and THE Mookie Betts, love you, jaysfan2014.

 

Right now, according to the loss column, the Jays are as close to the 2nd wildcard, as the ChiSox are to the Jays. And as close to Baltimore as the Twins are to them. With the Royals and Yankees ahead, and the Indians just behind, it's not an enviable place to be when you're without EE, Lind and Lawrie. Speaking of young arms ... The Jays have been relying on Stroman and Hutchison. Wonder if they'll hold up in the 2nd half?

 

Good question regarding the arms. Don't forget we also have Sanchez, Norris and Nolin in AAA and AA, and Morrow returning.

 

We have a cakewalk of a schedule post-All Star break. Of course, it won't matter if we don't start hitting consistently, while the O's are heading for the same deadly stretch of AL West teams we just faced, which could very easily derail their contention hopes if the Yanks, Rays or Jays get hot.

[jaysfan2014]

I don't care for the loss column, as many of these teams with fewer losses have also played fewer games and have games to make up.

 

As for the Mariners, this team is bound for significant regression in the 2nd half. Elias, Young, Maurer are all candidates to regress, and this team needs another bat just to stay in contention, as Seager and Cano can't do it all themselves, especially with the moves the Angels and A's made.

 

BTW, their next 6 games are vs. the Angels and A's. The AL is going to get even more messed up if the A's and Angels beat up on the Mariners.

[sh3156]

If the Yankees win today we will be tied for second with them. Yankees are in Baltimore to end the first half. We face Tampa

 

I expect 2 out of 3

[admin]

No Tanaka Yanks are screwed. That was a guarantee win one in five games. Split those other four games and they're one of the best teams in baseball.

[HammerinHank]

Remember when the Jays were 6.5 games up and had a '89%' chance of winning the division? What a fools prophecy.

[KingKat]

Remember when the Jays were 6.5 games up and had a '89%' chance of winning the division? What a fools prophecy.

 

How is a percentage a prophecy?

[HERPDERP]

This guy is the new Yu Darvish. Not sure when he is going to be posted but maybe in a few years

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y0nDV-exdI

 

Shohei Otani

10/2 K/BB per 9

95-100

high 80s split

80 slider

curve