Masahiro Tanaka

[3 Strikes I am Out]

Is he a player we would be looking at and do we have a shot at

 

Masahiro Tanaka - S - Player

 

According to a Sanspo report, NPB officials are prepared to accept MLB's new posting system proposal that includes a $20 million limit on posting fees.

The report from Sanspo in Japan was translated by Patrick Newman of NPB Tracker. It's a big win for lower-budget Major League Baseball teams, who have seen posting fees skyrocket to ridiculous levels in recent years. Masahiro Tanaka is the big fish on the international pond this winter and will be able to begin accepting bids once the new system is put into place. Full details should be disclosed soon.

[G-Snarls]

$20M??? That's ridiculous. Every team will bid that.

 

Wow. Well then you mostly are paying the player. All for it. But why is t he Japan league willing to do this??

[admin]

White Sox or Cubs will get him.

Konerko just re-upped with the Sox one more year becasue they promised to get Tanaka!

[G-Snarls]

White Sox or Cubs will get him.

Konerko just re-upped with the Sox one more year becasue they promised to get Tanaka!

 

Fine by me. Just don't want Yanks or Red Sox to get him.

[G-Snarls]

[BarrysSyringe]

Astros are laughing. Would be dumb not to bid this

[admin]

Source

 

John Sarcasm on Twitter.

[GeorgiaPeach]

Wow. Well then you mostly are paying the player. All for it. But why is t he Japan league willing to do this??

 

Far-fetched idea. But maybe NPBL owners see the stupid money being doled out to mediocre MLB players. So if NPBL teams are willing to cave in and be a feeder league, maybe they can cash in on mediocre Japanese players looking to play in the majors?

[G-Snarls]

Far-fetched idea. But maybe NPBL owners see the stupid money being doled out to mediocre MLB players. So if NPBL teams are willing to cave in and be a feeder league, maybe they can cash in on mediocre Japanese players looking to play in the majors?

 

Absolutely possible

[GeorgiaPeach]

White Sox or Cubs will get him.

Konerko just re-upped with the Sox one more year becasue they promised to get Tanaka!

 

I hope this isn't a parallel with the ChiSox and one of one of my Fantasy League teams. I recently won the bidding on Abreu and am looking to be a major player in the Tanaka bidding.

[G-Snarls]

... maybe they can cash in on mediocre Japanese players looking to play in the majors?

 

Speaking if which, did I ever mention that I was at Wrigley field for Kosuke Fukudome's major league debut? Cubs fans were pretty excited... For a brief period of time.

[KingKat]

Yeah I expect most teams to bid the 20M now. I'm afraid of how the winning team will be picked though. I feel like no matter what they settle on, it'll be bad for the Blue Jays.

 

Basically, it becomes like regular free agency with whoever put in 20 in on it. Interesting that the party that wasn't at the table (the japanese player) makes out the best.

[Atothe]

So say every team bid the max, don't the s***** teams get priority?

[John_Havok]

So say every team bid the max, don't the s***** teams get priority?

 

I think that was one of the proposals yes, though nothing has been finalized. They wanted the lower budget teams to at least be able to put bids forward with the hope of getting a chance to negotiate even by having made the same bid as the big spenders.

[Atothe]

I think that was one of the proposals yes, though nothing has been finalized. They wanted the lower budget teams to at least be able to put bids forward with the hope of getting a chance to negotiate even by having made the same bid as the big spenders.

 

This is too much meddling by mlb, I don't wanna see Tanaka pitch for the s*** product that is the cubs who are 5 years away from competing

[Abomination]

I think that was one of the proposals yes, though nothing has been finalized. They wanted the lower budget teams to at least be able to put bids forward with the hope of getting a chance to negotiate even by having made the same bid as the big spenders.

 

They could change it up a bit and have a lottery with the max bidding teams. Lower placed teams in the standings get higher chance, but everyone has a reasonable chance.

[Atothe]

They could change it up a bit and have a lottery with the max bidding teams. Lower placed teams in the standings get higher chance, but everyone has a reasonable chance.

 

There is no doubt in my mind a global draft is coming

[John_Havok]

This is too much meddling by mlb, I don't wanna see Tanaka pitch for the s*** product that is the cubs who are 5 years away from competing

 

There's no guarantee though the guy would sign though. I think that's the main issue with lottery or just choosing 1 team from say 10 teams who all put up the same bid. Either let the guy negotiate with every team who max bids, or don't meddle at all. THe goal here is to try to get more guys from Japan over to the MLB, giving Houston sole negotiating right because of their s***** record doesn't strike me as a way to lure players from Japan.

 

If they want to cap the posting fee, at least make the fee high enough that only teams who are serious about wanting to sign him step up. Remember just because a team wins the right to negotiate, doesn't mean the guy has to sign with them and then the posting fee is refunded. So if the posting fee is low enough, gutter teams could just always throw in a bid, win the rights, not even try to sign to the player, get their posting fee back and would have effectively blocked other teams ahead of them from landing a player without it costing them a cent. That's certainly not what MLB wants to happen.

[Atothe]

There's no guarantee though the guy would sign though. I think that's the main issue with lottery or just choosing 1 team from say 10 teams who all put up the same bid. Either let the guy negotiate with every team who max bids, or don't meddle at all. THe goal here is to try to get more guys from Japan over to the MLB, giving Houston sole negotiating right because of their s***** record doesn't strike me as a way to lure players from Japan.

 

If they want to cap the posting fee, at least make the fee high enough that only teams who are serious about wanting to sign him step up. Remember just because a team wins the right to negotiate, doesn't mean the guy has to sign with them and then the posting fee is refunded. So if the posting fee is low enough, gutter teams could just always throw in a bid, win the rights, not even try to sign to the player, get their posting fee back and would have effectively blocked other teams ahead of them from landing a player without it costing them a cent. That's certainly not what MLB wants to happen.

 

I truly believe if the Astros or Cubs won they will have every intention of signing him and probably trade him the following season for a shitload of prospects if he delivers

[Abomination]

There's no guarantee though the guy would sign though. I think that's the main issue with lottery or just choosing 1 team from say 10 teams who all put up the same bid. Either let the guy negotiate with every team who max bids, or don't meddle at all. THe goal here is to try to get more guys from Japan over to the MLB, giving Houston sole negotiating right because of their s***** record doesn't strike me as a way to lure players from Japan.

 

If they want to cap the posting fee, at least make the fee high enough that only teams who are serious about wanting to sign him step up. Remember just because a team wins the right to negotiate, doesn't mean the guy has to sign with them and then the posting fee is refunded. So if the posting fee is low enough, gutter teams could just always throw in a bid, win the rights, not even try to sign to the player, get their posting fee back and would have effectively blocked other teams ahead of them from landing a player without it costing them a cent. That's certainly not what MLB wants to happen.

 

If I remember right, earlier drafts said something about a fine if no agreement is reached.

[John_Havok]

If I remember right, earlier drafts said something about a fine if no agreement is reached.

 

Ill reserve judgement until the whole agreement is finalized, but a few million dollar fine to prevent another team from picking up elite talent would be money well spent. We're just talking hypothetically at this point of course, I really doubt MLB would go this way.

[Angrioter]

 

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[Angrioter]

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[The Cats Ass]

 

f***

 

This to me makes the most sense.

[admin]

Than what are they talking the worst team gets first option?

[John_Havok]

But jays have a no contract over 5 year policy

 

Pretty silly isn't it? LIke if the Jays had Trout and he was going into his arb years and they wanted to extend him, but wouldn't go past 5 years.... it's ridiculous to have a hard rule of "nothing past X years." It really is. as long as it's planned out the right way and not completely horrendous value on the back end, a 6 or 7 year deal isn't a franchise crippler. For hitters alone though, anyone who would guarantee more than 5 years to a pitcher is f***ing retarded.

[John_Havok]

Than what are they talking the worst team gets first option?

 

I know that was one of the rumoured features of the new deal a few days ago, could be completely off the table by now.

[Muck Bartinez]

I think that's more for FA's than buying out your own prospect's arbitration years plus some FA years on top. If the Jays ever produce a player worthy of extending past 5 years, I doubt AA would pass up the chance for 6+ on a team friendly deal. Say what you want about his scouting/trading/development/drafting, he hasn't signed a single contract that I would deem bad. (Happ's might be the worst, but 9M over 2 years is hardly egregious) I could see a Lawrie extension coming that would go over 5 years.

[Angrioter]

MLBTR Rakuten Golden Eagles May Not Post Masahiro Tanaka

 

20 milliona is very little money compared with Yu and Dice-K lol

[admin]

They will. They just need to agree on a better system. $20M from $50M that's crazy.