Marlins close to signing Salty to a 3yr/$21MM deal

[fatcowxlive]

[jaysblue]

Nice deal for the Marlins. Now that leaves JPA only on the market for catchers. Slim pickings now haha.

[jaysblue]

Shocked if that is the number. I would thought it was 3 years and 30.

 

Yeah thought he'd get something similar to Ruiz or more. If its $21 million, that's a bargain.

[fatcowxlive]

Damn, cheap deal.

 

Cheaper AAV than one year of AJ Pierzynski

[KingKat]

Cheaper AAV than one year of AJ Pierzynski

 

I guess the BoSox really really wanted to replace Salty with someone else.

[TRM]

everything about this is weird

[G-Snarls]

I guess the BoSox really really wanted to replace Salty with someone else.

 

Have they got a catcher of the future? Cause right now they have not one, but TWO 37 year olds as their catching tandem.

[TRM]

Let me summarize the weird things.

1. Marlins?

2. Price in a vacuum

3. Salty choosing to bat in Miami

4. Price when comparing to other UFA catcher signings

5. DDL ramifications

[GD]

You didn't beat me, I just didn't care enough to make a thread.

[G-Snarls]

Had to be the years......meh, I think he sucks to be honest.

 

Yep. He's really not very good.

[G-Snarls]

The Ceeeeeb a Ranger?!

 

I'd say 80% likely

[G-Snarls]

Done

 

[Abomination]

so ... what's the over/under on how many days (past the May deadline) until the Marlins move him to some team that loses their catcher?

[Nox]

Well that was cheap.

[TheHurl]

M's so he can be in Nashville with his bride.

[Angrioter]

Ugliest hair and ugliest Ball Park come together.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Knowing the Marlins they'll heavily frontload it and dump him after one year.

[KingKat]

Have they got a catcher of the future? Cause right now they have not one, but TWO 37 year olds as their catching tandem.

 

Swihart is their catcher of the future. I guess if they wanted someone on a one year deal it was either AJP or JPA. Given the framing numbers, I might actually prefer JPA (blasphemy I know but AJP's framing is brutal).

[GD]

Christian Vazquez is also coming up for them fwiw.

[G-Snarls]

Knowing the Marlins they'll heavily frontload it and dump him after one year.

 

@clarkspencer: Jarrod Saltalamacchia to receive annual salaries of $6m, $7m and $8m over the 3 yrs. Per #Marlins policy, there is NO no-trade protection

[G-Snarls]

WEEI reporting Red Sox best offer to him was 18M with incentives over 2 years but he wanted a 3 year deal

 

Dunno if smart or not on his part

[eastcoastjaysfan]

WEEI reporting Red Sox best offer to him was 18M with incentives over 2 years but he wanted a 3 year deal

 

Dunno if smart or not on his part

 

If he turned down a 2/18 deal + incentives for 3/21 he's an idiot.

[G-Snarls]

If he turned down a 2/18 deal + incentives for 3/21 he's an idiot.

 

Sounds like 18 WITH incentives

 

http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2013/12/04/red-sox-offer-to-jarrod-saltalamacchia-topped-out-at-two-years-around-18-million/

 

According to multiple industry sources familiar with the talks, the Red Sox have been determined this offseason to limit offers to any free agent catchers to two years in order to avoid blocking the path to the majors of prospects Christian Vazquez and Blake Swihart. The team’s conversations with free agent Jarrod Saltalamacchia reflected that approach, with one industry source suggesting that the Sox and the catcher talked about structuring a two-year deal that featured incentives that would allow it to top out around $18 million.

 

Such a deal could have offered the 28-year-old a higher average annual value than the three-year, $21 million deal to which he ended up agreeing with the Marlins, but for Saltalamacchia, the desire for a three-year deal was absolute. Had the Sox offered the same three-year, $21 million guarantee that Miami ultimately presented, there would have been a strong chance that Saltalamacchia would have accepted in order to return to Boston. But the Sox never considered moving to that length.

 

Ultimately, that proved a deal-breaker — just as it had with Carlos Ruiz earlier in the offseason. While the Sox had been willing to go beyond two years with Brian McCann (before he signed his five-year, $85 million deal with the Yankees), he represented a different degree of flexibility given that the team viewed him as having the offense to emerge as a future DH or first baseman by the third year of a deal. Saltalamacchia and Ruiz being pursued solely as a catcher, thus creating the possibility of a bottleneck for Vazquez and/or Swihart.

 

Hence, the Sox felt that their best course — with McCann and Ruiz off the market and no common ground for Saltalamacchia — was to sign A.J. Pierzynski for one year at $8.25 million, a contract that will permit the team the greatest degree of flexibility entering 2015.

[KingKat]

 

Hence, the Sox felt that their best course — with McCann and Ruiz off the market and no common ground for Saltalamacchia — was to sign A.J. Pierzynski for one year at $8.25 million, a contract that will permit the team the greatest degree of flexibility entering 2015.

 

Man I don't know about that approach. I'd rather sign someone good and deal with the happy problem that arises if and when the prospects knock on the door than sign A.J. That's putting too much emphasis on making room for the future and not enough emphasis on fielding a good team now IMO.

 

Edit: They should have totally offered Ruiz three years. Yeah he'll be old by the end of the deal but that's about the time they expect those prospects to be ready so that shoudln't be as much of a concern for them as it would be for other teams. Having him now instead of AJP would be totally worth paying that extra year.

[G-Snarls]

Man I don't know about that approach. I'd rather sign someone good and deal with the happy problem that arises if and when the prospects knock on the door than sign A.J. That's putting too much emphasis on making room for the future and not enough emphasis on fielding a good team now IMO.

 

Edit: They should have totally offered Ruiz three years. Yeah he'll be old by the end of the deal but that's about the time they expect those prospects to be ready so that shoudln't be as much of a concern for them as it would be for other teams. Having him now instead of AJP would be totally worth paying that extra year.

 

Ruiz at end of three years = same age AJP and David Ross are NOW

 

They totally should have signed him

[Fearthedoc]

Wow I thought Salty was a lock for 3/30. Not a bad deal at all for the Marlins.

[KingKat]

Ruiz at end of three years = same age AJP and David Ross are NOW

 

They totally should have signed him

 

Same cost per year too.

 

It's not like the Jays situation either, the BoSox have the pull to sign whoever they want and they chose to go with an inferior option.

[wilko]

Soo glad the Jays didn't pick up Salty.