The Random Non Thread Worthy Thread

[mci13]

What do you guys think about Votto + top pitcher (Bailey/Cueto/Chapman) + prospects for Bautista + Lind deal. A mid-market team like the Reds get out of Votto’s massive deal ($218 million/9 years) and get an equivalent player for a shorter term (Bautista) and a first base replacement. Jays are able to add and a pitcher without creating big hole in their lineup.

 

The last couple of years on Votto’s contract are dead weight and that probably allows the Jays to get a pitcher (Bailey/Cueto/Chapman maybe expand the deal for Latos) and a prospect from the Reds. It also gives them flexibility to add short-term during their window since he only makes $12 million in 2014 and $14 million in 2015.

 

Do you think it would be worthwhile taking on Votto’s contract or will it be an albatross like Fielder and Pujols? I always thought elite players with high walk rates were able age better. Fangraphs projects 41.5 WAR over the course of the deal (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/joey-vottos-massive-extension-changes-the-game/).

[mci13]

I was just wondering if Votto's deal was too rich for them. Apparently they only get $10 million/year from their TV contract.

[Sammy225]

mmmmmmm.... OK:

 

1. Reds are not worried about Vottos contract 1 year after they signed it.

2. Votto is one of the best hitters in the game so it would take probably more than him let alone adding a top pitcher.

[DuckDuckGose]

What do you guys think about Votto + top pitcher (Bailey/Cueto/Chapman) + prospects for Bautista + Lind deal. A mid-market team like the Reds get out of Votto’s massive deal ($218 million/9 years) and get an equivalent player for a shorter term (Bautista) and a first base replacement. Jays are able to add and a pitcher without creating big hole in their lineup.

 

The last couple of years on Votto’s contract are dead weight and that probably allows the Jays to get a pitcher (Bailey/Cueto/Chapman maybe expand the deal for Latos) and a prospect from the Reds. It also gives them flexibility to add short-term during their window since he only makes $12 million in 2014 and $14 million in 2015.

 

Do you think it would be worthwhile taking on Votto’s contract or will it be an albatross like Fielder and Pujols? I always thought elite players with high walk rates were able age better. Fangraphs projects 41.5 WAR over the course of the deal (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/joey-vottos-massive-extension-changes-the-game/).

 

If you want Votto it would cost Bautista+, you aren't anywhere close.

[jays_fever]

Can people stop making new threads every time a random trade thought pops into your mind

[DuckDuckGose]

Can people stop making new threads every time a random trade thought pops into your mind

 

I probably make more silly fantasy proposals than anyone on here but they don't need a new thread. Find a relevant thread and post and join that conversation.

[Angrioter]

http://backinblue.kc-media.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ricky-romero-canada-day.jpg

 

The Angels uniform will fit very good in him.

[z3r0s]

Any thought of making an 'Official Speculative Trades' thread (or even sub-forum)? I've been known for enjoying the process of trying to put together reasonable trades (hopefully the ones I put forward are more realistic than this one), keeping it to a specific thread would allow those who don't want to read about them to not be bothered.

[jays_fever]

Any thought of making an 'Official Speculative Trades' thread (or even sub-forum)? I've been known for enjoying the process of trying to put together reasonable trades (hopefully the ones I put forward are more realistic than this one), keeping it to a specific thread would allow those who don't want to read about them to not be bothered.

 

Please do. That was the one thing I couldnt stand on the old board was people logging on and creating a new thread about whatever was on their mind.

[Chappy]

I'm going to just start merging threads here like random trade ideas. Unless it's an actual reported trade or legitimate speculation (ie. reported from some reasonably credible source) or an actual baseball topic I don't think we need a thread for every random thought that pops into people head.

[John_Havok]

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

[Chappy]

Great idea!!

 

I also like the thread title modifying that Gsnarls has done recently. May as well use the available tools to keep the board uncluttered.

 

Yeah, I don't want to limit people too much but when obvious threads pop up that really don't need their own thread, it can just be merged into this one.

[Abomination]

Great idea!!

 

I also like the thread title modifying that Gsnarls has done recently. May as well use the available tools to keep the board uncluttered.

 

I don't like thread title modifying unless it's to fix a spelling error or remove something offensive (or if the OP asks for it to be). I do like the thread merging though.

[Chappy]

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

 

Interesting. I can say the same thing about someone I work with.

[Angrioter]

I'm going to just start merging threads here like random trade ideas. Unless it's an actual reported trade or legitimate speculation (ie. reported from some reasonably credible source) or an actual baseball topic I don't think we need a thread for every random thought that pops into people head.

 

Can I start a "Español Thread'?

 

No mencionare la palabra maricon lo juro.

[Abomination]

Can I start a "Español Thread'?

 

No mencionare la palabra maricon lo juro.

 

Can we also get a button to ignore a thread? j/k

[John_Havok]

Interesting. I can say the same thing about someone I work with.

 

I made that mistake once in a drunken stupor, was going for tuna and ended up with Friskies. I was one very confused the next morning, not to mention the cat.

[DuckDuckGose]

Great idea!!

 

I also like the thread title modifying that Gsnarls has done recently. May as well use the available tools to keep the board uncluttered.

 

+1 keep up the good work GSnarls.

[DuckDuckGose]

I don't like thread title modifying unless it's to fix a spelling error or remove something offensive (or if the OP asks for it to be). I do like the thread merging though.

 

I'm all for it if the title is misleading.

[DuckDuckGose]

Can I start a "Español Thread'?

 

No mencionare la palabra maricon lo juro.

 

I'd love to see a locked "best of" thread in which posts can be nominated and moved to. I'd also look to have a locked "posts of shame" thread in which posts can be nominated and moved to.

[John_Havok]

I have a blue jays message board hall of fame thread. Unfortunately, nobody's suggested any posts yet

 

It's in the OT forum

 

The problem is all those threads that were full of gold turn into piles of s*** when a guy got banned since all his posts disappear. By far the most epic thread was that guy who said goodbye to himself because he forgot to log out of one of his accounts and posted in his own goodbye thread

[DuckDuckGose]

I don't know if I've ever read the off-topic thread. A best of button would probably be needed for it to actually work as well but that may be asking too much given the amount of time that has already been put in to the forums and the blog launching.

[mci13]

I don't imagine he's done anything to change their minds since the extension. He's been the 3rd-best hitter in baseball in the two years since signing the deal.

 

There are some injury concerns about Votto’s knee and apparently Walt Jocketty wants Votto to walk less and become more aggressive (http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/42392/reds-think-joey-votto-walks-too-much).

 

And Reds fans are complaining that Votto walks too much and doesn’t get enough RBIs (http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ml-reds&tid=77412).

 

The main reason I thought the Reds would want to trade him is because I don’t see how they afford him. The Reds are a small-to-mid market team with a terrible TV contract. I thought the Reds would be willing to consider this deal since they don’t lose too much between Votto and Bautista over the next 3 years and get future financial flexibility. Also, Walt Jocketty is also an old school baseball guy that values scouting over sabermetrics maybe he’s more attracted to Bautista’s HR and RBI totals.

 

Maybe we’re a couple of years away from a Votto trade since he makes $12, 14, and 20 million over the next 3 years, but I can’t imagine them paying him $25 million for his ages 34-39 seasons.

[Jays]

Also, Walt Jocketty is also an old school baseball guy that values scouting over sabermetrics maybe he’s more attracted to Bautista’s HR and RBI totals.

 

Unfortunately, our GM is the same way.

[Frag]

Since this is the random non thread-worthy thread, I will like to propose something totally non thread-worthy:

 

Will Matt Kemp become a Blue Jay? More at 11!

[GD]

Didn't we used to have an off topic thread started by TwistedLogic?

[connorp]

In the spirit of this thread.. If you moved Trout, what would it cost?

 

From St.L: OT + Miller + Wacha + Craig?

[connorp]

I think I'd that if i was LA..but if I was Stl I would leave out Craig and try to include guys like Wong

[Frenchsoup]

In the spirit of this thread.. If you moved Trout, what would it cost?

 

From St.L: OT + Miller + Wacha + Craig?

 

I think if i was anaheim i would have to do that, trout will start getting expensive and will demand probably a 35-40 mill extension over 10+years. Plus that is a lot of talent coming back.

[connorp]

Yeah I think Craig tilts it too much. Maybe Wong and another lesser guy