Adam Lind Could Be Traded

[JaysFan4Ever]

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/4044/adam-lind via the Boston Globe.

 

Of course he could be traded to dump $7 plus the rest of his options if someone with more pop/production could come along plus to bring in some needed parts. The part that's interesting is "some sentiment in the organization that he doesn't fit what the Blue Jays are trying to build in terms of attitude." Attitude? From what I've heard/read he has been on record as saying he doesn't like to take time to exercise and seems a bit lazy as far as an athlete would be, whether it's true or not, I don't know. But compared to some of the people on this team his attitude might be a problem and isn't what the team is looking for? Lawrie, JP?

 

It would be nice to move him if they could get a decent return and get a better DH/Back up 1B since who knows if he'll go down again or regress like he had before.

[Angrioter]

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/1474-The-Offseason-Roster-Thread/page30

 

Lind + B + s*** for Smoak and Ackley

[G-Snarls]

The only way trading Lind makes any sense is if the team has decided Melky is best suited to DH and they have their sights on a top quality OF like Choo. (Ie. Not likely at all)

[GD]

Something that went largely unnoticed in MLBTR via Nick Cafardo:

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/cafardo-on-trumbo-ethier-kemp-arroyo-red-sox.html

The Blue Jays picked up Adam Lind's option, but don't be surprised if Toronto tries to move him.

[Pete_7]

The only way trading Lind makes any sense is if the team has decided Melky is best suited to DH and they have their sights on a top quality OF like Choo. (Ie. Not likely at all)

 

This

[Abomination]

Something that went largely unnoticed in MLBTR via Nick Cafardo:

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/cafardo-on-trumbo-ethier-kemp-arroyo-red-sox.html

 

It'll be very interesting to see what they do on a few players. Lind, Rasmus, Melky, possibly Morrow, Happ are all guys who I could see possibly being moved if some money needed to be freed up. Maybe if they're taking back a bigger salary they can even offload Romero.

[Cooler Heads Prevail]

The only way trading Lind makes any sense is if the team has decided Melky is best suited to DH and they have their sights on a top quality OF like Choo. (Ie. Not likely at all)

 

I think this is highly likely. Lind is basically an insurance policy at this point gives them some flexibility. I really don't understand why everyone thinks the Jays won't sign a big free agent they used to do this all the time. I'd say at least 60% chance the Jays sign at least one big free agent and our team will be noticeably better on paper going into next season.

 

Lind and Cabrera on the same team probably doesn't make much sense because they are likely both DHs now with spot duty in the field.

However, if Melky is a really bad health risk ( doctors probably know ) maybe they retain Lind anyways.

[Frenchsoup]

If they trade lind I could see them going after loney, which I wouldn't mind.

[Olerud363]

The only way trading Lind makes any sense is if the team has decided Melky is best suited to DH and they have their sights on a top quality OF like Choo. (Ie. Not likely at all)

 

I can't think of a scenario where Melky is both "best suited as DH" AND "would make a good DH".

 

If he's not completely healthy then I don't see him hitting good enough to be a DH. When not healthy he loses average, power, speed, and wouldn't be suitable for anything.

 

If healthy and performing he should be in left,.

[ElNik2013]

They'd have to replace Lind's bat to move him, but I could see them trading him and his salary. AA gave away the team's financial flexibility in the trade with the Marlins, so I think in order to address the team's issues, they'll have to trade some salary. I would think Janssen or Santos's salary should be moved.

[Angrioter]

Where the hell is David Cooper?

[Laika]

Trade Lind for anything. Sign Corey Hart. Profit!

[G-Snarls]

AA 's biggest free agent signings in his tenure have been Oliver, Izturis and Cabrera. It's well documented that we aren't big players in the free agent market, and AA would prefer to make trades. I don't know who you mean by "big free agent", but it's unlikely because our team won't sign free agents longer than 5 year deals. The free agents can get better offers from other teams with the same money and more years.

 

Not because he hasn't tried though. It sounds like he offered Carlos Beltran and Anibal Sanchez contracts that were competitive with what they were given by STL and DET. They just chose to play elsewhere. Does that suck? Yes. But it's not because AA wasn't willing.

[Angrioter]

He signed a minor league contract with the Indians, although he might be a MILB Free Agent now. Btw, Mauro Gomez signed in Japan

 

Mauro Gomez hasn't yet signed with japan team but will do it soon.

 

I like Cooper 4xA depth

[Angrioter]

Adam lind is bad at baseball

 

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No, he's not a bad player. He's like whores and marijuana. They are very good when you use them properly.

[Anemic0ffense]

He's good if you use him in the right role. That role would be against RHP only.

 

Lind vs RHP: 151 wRC+, .396 wOBA

 

Lind vs LHP: 53 wRC+, .253 wOBA

 

in 2013 that was.

 

It's really not that hard to manage a baseball team when stats like this smack you in the face. Who in their right mind would ever give Lind an AB vs. a LHP? I guess this is why they are baseball managers and not rocket scientists.

[G-Snarls]

Sanchez did not choose to play elsewhere, we were not willing to offer enough years (5 year max) and walked away from the deal. Beltran chose St. Louis over Toronto but.... Who wouldn't? Lol

 

Tigers only gave him 5 years. According to Lott/Davidi's book we offered the same didn't we?

[jaysblue]

Lind would appeal to teams who are in need of some pop at 1B/DH. The Mets come to mind (if they non-tender Ike Davis), the Mariners (since Morales is a FA), Colorado (they need a 1B with Helton retired and they could platoon Lind easily at 1B).

[Laika]

I don't really see the point in moving him. They'd still need someone who can give them a 120 wRC+ in 500 PA vs RHP. Unless there's an immediate solution (Melky?) I'd rather just pay Lind.

 

team culture lol

 

But if someone wants Adam Lind and takes his salary on, then it wouldn't be hard to find another 1 win platoon potato who can't hit lefties at all. You could probably even find someone with more defensive utility for Lind at less money.

[Abomination]

Yup. He had 100 PAs vs LHP in 2013, that would be 100 PAs too many.

 

It's all SSS, but last year vs lefties Lind had a -56 wRC+ at home and a 131 wRC+ on the road. In all reality though, it seemed to me that most of Lind's struggles against lefties came with the relievers more so than the starters.

[ElNik2013]

Tigers gave him 6 years, if I'm reading right?? I think it said we offered 5y/$75m but then Sanchez agent told us he was looking for 7 or 8 years. They also told us that they wanted to take there time, and we wanted to get a deal done fast.

 

 

 

Sanchez signed for 5 years with the Tigers. In fact, the Tigers were initially not willing to go over 4 years, but once the Cubs had offered Sanchez 5 years, they gave him the 5 years. It was also reported at the time that the Sanchez would give the Tigers the last chance to match the best offer he received so it's probable that even if the Jays had stayed in the hunt for Sanchez and not made the Marlins trade, they would've struck out. I wouldn't have minded, but they were determined, to a fault, to address the starting rotation holes.

 

As it turned out, had they only traded for JJ, they would've still had the payroll room to make a last-ditch offer to Sanchez in mid December which is when he signed. Instead, since AA blew the budget on Reyes and Buehrle, Dickey became more attractive because of his contract.

[ElNik2013]

team culture lol

 

But if someone wants Adam Lind and takes his salary on, then it wouldn't be hard to find another 1 win platoon potato who can't hit lefties at all. You could probably even find someone with more defensive utility for Lind at less money.

 

 

 

What will Kendry Morales command? Maybe if someone is willing to trade a young 2B, like Ackley, you go out and sign Morales. I guess the Mariners could just re-sign Morales, lol.

[ElNik2013]

Oh yeah my bad. It's too bad we gave up on Sanchez so early

 

 

 

And as I said, the way I see it, if they hadn't blown their budget on Reyes and Buehrle, they might've still been in on him when he signed which was around the same time of the Dickey trade. Anyway, it's all a moot point now.

[Laika]

What will Kendry Morales command? Maybe if someone is willing to trade a young 2B, like Ackley, you go out and sign Morales. I guess the Mariners could just re-sign Morales, lol.

 

Not a Morales fan at all. He's kind of an old school player that gets overrated due to his ability to consistently hit for AVG. Lind actually out WAR'd Kendrys last year, believe it or not.

[Jays]

But if someone wants Adam Lind and takes his salary on, then it wouldn't be hard to find another 1 win platoon potato who can't hit lefties at all. You could probably even find someone with more defensive utility for Lind at less money.

 

Seth Smith?

[Laika]

Seth Smith?

 

I don't think he's a FA, is he?

 

I was thinking that Kubel could be a good buy low option.

[Jays]

I don't think he's a FA, is he?

 

He was listed in Ang's post about possible non-tender candidates.

[G-Snarls]

Maybe a bit more, 3/36? Anyhow, Lind at a fraction of that, and a RHB masher to crush lefties who'll see 200 pa, is the much better and efficient avenue.

 

If only we knew how much better (if any) Melky will be in LF this year. Because if he starts there, our 4th OF figures to be the light hitting, left handed Gose. Melky has identical results from both sides of the plate so could nicely fill in at DH vs LHP, but that that doesn't help if it puts Gose in the outfield for those games against lefties because he might be even worse than Lind.

 

We really need to add a quality RH bat no matter what.

[jayswin11]

I for one hope we trade Lind.

[kgm1]

Maybe a bit more, 3/36? Anyhow, Lind at a fraction of that, and a RHB masher to crush lefties who'll see 200 pa, is the much better and efficient avenue.

 

Unfortunately that RHB is going to be Derosa. If Melky is unable to come back from injury then they may DFA Derosa and have meekly as the RHB on the bench. Either way Lind to me is the best value out there at 7mil .