Mark Buehrle Appreciation Thread

[yudarvish]

Discuss Buehrle's awesomeness here.

[Laika]

His "awesomeness" is nonexistent.

 

His apparent efficacy is completely relative. In a decent rotation, he would look like what he is - a league average SP. Number 4 type production + bankable innings.

 

On the Blue Jays, he looks like some kind of veteran, stalwart, rotation-leading pseudo-Ace.

 

Bring his salary into the equation, and he could f*** right off for all I care.

 

You can f*** right off too. Nimrod.

[GD]

Pretty much $0 in surplus value. Nice #4. Totally not thread worthy. Dumn thread is dumn.

 

Sigh, is this what this year has turned into?

[flafson]

I don't know about league average but if our rotation would have been what it should have, then he would be number 3 or 4. Is that a bad thing? I don't think so.

He keeps me amazed every time he goes deep into games, no idea how he isn't being hit a lot more, i know what Buck says about command but even though he stays around the plate, his command doesn't seem that great to me, but what do i know.

[Laika]

He keeps me amazed every time he goes deep into games, no idea how he isn't being hit a lot more, i know what Buck says about command but even though he stays around the plate, his command doesn't seem that great to me, but what do i know.

 

Having watched him for a year, I think he just has really good command on one plane. It's not literally "pinpoint" command - it's more of a planar command.

 

For example, if he wants to throw the ball inside, then it's on the inner black / inside WAY more often than not, even if he frequently misses up and down on that inner plane.

 

Or, if he wants to keep the ball down, then he almost always keeps the ball down, even if sometimes he will miss his spot along the perpendicular horizontal plane (missing over the middle or further off the zone than he wanted).

 

So he seems more or less sublime at throwing to a certain plane, but not necessarily awesome at throwing to a certain point.... which could probably be a lesson to every pitcher out there who is struggling with command/control, or struggling with how to succeed without plus stuff.

 

And of course, Buehrle supplements all of this with speed changes. Dude pitches in 4 dimensions: up and down, left and right, hard and soft, breaking and straight.

[Laika]

That's pretty harsh. There's nothing wrong with taking the time to discuss and appreciate Mark Buehrle for what he is. We watch the game for fun after all. Buehrle is closing in on his 12 consecutive 200+ inning season and continues to turn in productive season after productive season despite really having no stuff to speak of. He also has cool quirks like working faster than pretty much anyone and busting DIPS with great defense. Its hard to not appreciate Mark Buehrle.

 

Fun is relative.

 

Looks like I beat you to the appreciation anyway though. Just essentially fellated the guy, one post above yours.

[TheHurl]

what is interesting is that in every single year of his career he's fell apart or at least been worse in the second half of the season...but then there is the bizarro Jays.

[Dr Negative]

He must be trying to pitch his way to a trade with the Dodgers.

[yudarvish]

His "awesomeness" is nonexistent.

 

His apparent efficacy is completely relative. In a decent rotation, he would look like what he is - a league average SP. Number 4 type production + bankable innings.

 

On the Blue Jays, he looks like some kind of veteran, stalwart, rotation-leading pseudo-Ace.

 

Bring his salary into the equation, and he could f*** right off for all I care.

 

You can f*** right off too. Nimrod.

 

You mad, clown? He's likely going to end the year with respectable numbers across the board despite a HORRENDOUS start. Unlike the other acquisitions, he has actually met expectations. You need to stop taking everything so seriously.

[yudarvish]

Pretty much $0 in surplus value. Nice #4. Totally not thread worthy. Dumn thread is dumn.

 

Sigh, is this what this year has turned into?

 

Expecting bang for the buck with Buehrle is totally unreasonable.

[Laika]

You need to get a life.

 

Agreed, let's do it together.